CZ POLL Are you happy the Cowboys hired Matt Eberflus as the new Defensive Coordinator?

Are you happy the Cowboys hired Matt Eberflus as the new Defensive Coordinator?


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OmerV

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watch my prediction come true..... do you think they will succeed or go the route of MM, Garrett, Wade, Gaily, Campo?
You're still running from it. I said nothing about whether they would be successful. I was talking about your comment on saving money
 

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You're still running from it. I said nothing about whether they would be successful. I was talking about your comment on saving money
lets wait until contract details are out. mccarthy was 15th at 4M/year.....
Jerry talks about coaches dead money..COACHES DEAD MONEY!!!!

how much you think Shotty got paid!? yeah. Jerry saved money by going with Shotty who nobody else wanted!!!! and was about to be unemployed yet again.
 

OmerV

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lets wait until contract details are out. mccarthy was 15th at 4M/year.....
Jerry talks about coaches dead money..COACHES DEAD MONEY!!!!

how much you think Shotty got paid!? yeah. Jerry saved money by going with Shotty who nobody else wanted!!!! and was about to be unemployed yet again.
15th is hardly bottom of the barrel, and no doubt he wasn't that far down when he signed with the Cowboys 5 years ago. Coaching contracts go up too, and several more recent hires aren'tmuch ahead, and some are behind. Of course he was way behind guys like Reid, Payton, McVay etc ... but that's obviously understandable, and those guys aren't available to hire.

It's pretty ludicrous to think a guy that pays some of the player salaries he does is hiring coaches based on saving a couple of million dollars. That's a small drop in the bucket.
 

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15th is hardly bottom of the barrel, and no doubt he wasn't that far down when he signed with the Cowboys 5 years ago. Coaching contracts go up too, and several more recent hires aren'tmuch ahead, and some are behind. Of course he was way behind guys like Reid, Payton, McVay etc ... but that's obviously understandable, and those guys aren't available to hire.

It's pretty ludicrous to think a guy that pays some of the player salaries he does is hiring coaches based on saving a couple of million dollars. That's a small drop in the bucket.
ok, lets just wait and see when contract details come out. not sure why you are defending Jerry.

and it was jerry who talked about coaches dead money!!! is there such a thing? he rather keep a coach to the end of the contract despite everything so he doesn't have to pay his salary and the new coaches salary. so yeah, a few million matter to him...

coaches contracts are often gauranteed, and thus average over the years is what is used. there is no CAP so year to year is totally irrelevant.
 

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ok, lets just wait and see when contract details come out. not sure why you are defending Jerry.

and it was jerry who talked about coaches dead money!!! is there such a thing? he rather keep a coach to the end of the contract despite everything so he doesn't have to pay his salary and the new coaches salary. so yeah, a few million matter to him...

coaches contracts are often gauranteed, and thus average over the years is what is used. there is no CAP so year to year is totally irrelevant.
I'm not defending Jerry - I dislike him intensely as the Owner/GM of the Cowboys. I just don't believe that's a reason to claim whatever we want about him. Say what you want, but Jerry does spend money.

As for Schottenheimer, of course he isn't going to be one of the highest paid coaches. No first time head coach ever is. But that doesn't mean money was the overriding reason for the choice.

And Eberflus? A known coach who earned a head coaching job because he was respected as a coordinator and leader. Do we really think he is going to be paid at the bottom of the barrel for DC's?
 

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I'm not defending Jerry - I dislike him intensely as the Owner/GM of the Cowboys. I just don't believe that's a reason to claim whatever we want about him. Say what you want, but Jerry does spend money.

As for Schottenheimer, of course he isn't going to be one of the highest paid coaches. No first time head coach ever is. But that doesn't mean money was the overriding reason for the choice.

And Eberflus? A known coach who earned a head coaching job because he was respected as a coordinator and leader. Do we really think he is going to be paid at the bottom of the barrel for DC's?
he spends as little as possible to meet the minimum requirements.

we were 27th in cap spending, which puts us closer to the cap floor than cap ceiling
we were 28th in dead cap, essentially because we keep most players to the end of their contract so that we don't have to pay twice for the same position
prior to CD and Dak we were 28th in cash spending. essentially not signing FAs and handing big contracts. after Dak and CD we were 16th.
head coach was 15th highest paid in the league...for the most valued and most profitable franchise in NFL

we signed zeke to a contract. we didn't even bother to print new Jersey's for his #15. all they sold was the same #21 jersey's they had from before.

there is no data on coaching staff budgets, but given trends above wouldn't surprise me if we were one of the lowest.

money was one of the reasons, as top coaches demand much higher and jerry wouldn't be willing to pay that. on top of that top coaches would demand more control and that's the other reason Jerry wouldn't do it.
 

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I wish there was a third choice of "Meh, it's okay and not bad, but nothing will change until the actual culture changes."
 

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I think he is a good hire. On a personal level, I got hired to the "head" position (not football) and I absolutely hate it. In way over my head and I'm better suited for a coordinator position. I would still know to call a timeout though.
 

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I have to qualify my YES vote.

I am happy to replace Zimmer with a cardboard cut out of a good DC, so Eberflus is an upgrade, but he isn't my first choice, and there were much better candidates available.
Eberflus is a solid defensive coach...no make-believe to it. He's not a kiddie version of tough.
 

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lets wait until contract details are out. mccarthy was 15th at 4M/year.....
Jerry talks about coaches dead money..COACHES DEAD MONEY!!!!

how much you think Shotty got paid!? yeah. Jerry saved money by going with Shotty who nobody else wanted!!!! and was about to be unemployed yet again.
Clarence Hill said 7m on DLLS
 

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i mean he was a dc for what, three seasons? colts were fine, they weren't defensive juggernauts. darius leonard and buckner were monsters. he was a guy here who was part of some pretty awful defenses, and then had a solid showing in indy, and a terrible one in chicago. what inspires confidence?
4 seasons and his defenses were ranked top 10 in 3 of them.

Being a HC is not indicative of him being a bad DC. A HC doesn't nearly get the involvement or focus on that side of the ball that they would if they were a DC. He is not even calling the defenses as HC.

He was a bright mind when he was here and our LBs were very good under his coaching. He was just a LBs coach here.
 

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4 seasons and his defenses were ranked top 10 in 3 of them.

Being a HC is not indicative of him being a bad DC. A HC doesn't nearly get the involvement or focus on that side of the ball that they would if they were a DC. He is not even calling the defenses as HC.

He was a bright mind when he was here and our LBs were very good under his coaching. He was just a LBs coach here.
got data for that top ten in 3 stat?

and our lbs were very good, but also the most talented lbs we had as well.

personally I don’t see it. i don’t recall anyone lamenting losing him
 

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i mean he was a dc for what, three seasons? colts were fine, they weren't defensive juggernauts. darius leonard and buckner were monsters. he was a guy here who was part of some pretty awful defenses, and then had a solid showing in indy, and a terrible one in chicago. what inspires confidence?
It’s going to be totally wait-and-see, as long as they’re on the same page and they have a decent scheme plan, who knows lol
 

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You tell me it’s a prevent. Then I agree with you. But Ben don’t break, that’s basically the NFL. As you get closer to the end zone, you have less field to worry about.
Well I can't see who you're talking about but Mike zimmer's defense was a lot like that try to keep everything from being a big play forced them underneath make them drive the length of the field that's not technically prevent defense but it's definitely trying to prevent big fast chunk plays but you still have to occasionally and hopefully maybe Matt E, learned that you have to create pressure and sacks and turnover sometimes but you don't have to do it as your identity as your main scheme you just need to make sure you know when to dial it up...

We all know the only way this is gonna be successful is if they don't have another rash of injuries I mean it was like the Dallas Cowboys had to lead the NFL in total injuries and injuries all at the same position just being ravished I mean it literally was terrible you can't play football with your practice squad especially your practice squad players that were both now starting and backing up each other there literally was very little of our actual complete defense last year to play it happened in 2020 ironically those were the two losing seasons that the Cowboys had recently it was mostly because of injuries but also what we need to do in free agency is important and the draft to make sure that these new coaches have the best opportunity to be successful...
 

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The Eagles have a 33 yr old secondary coach and they cover they hit and will be on display in the SB .

Would it hurt the Jones family to look around league at young successful coaches and sound them out instead of getting the comfortable slippers out of mothballs .

The lack of imagination is what bothers me about how this prized franchise is run.’
 
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