Aren't We Missing The Point, Here?

te0002

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I understand all the T.O. rumor/news is going to grab headlines, but isn't all this attention simply masking the real issues facing this team? Let's assume the Cowboys do sign T.O., there is no way even those who support this move can say the team has made itself significantly better than last year. At WR? Yes, talent wise. But overall, this team still has many needs - namely FS, RT and Kicker. Most would add OLB to this list and I certainly wouldn't argue.

My concern - apart from T.O. temperment - is JJ thinking his making the biggest splash in FA, somehow cures all the other teams ills. A bigger splash for me would have been a press conference announcing the signing of Will Demps or Chris Hope. Hopefully Josh Brown gets signed and if Petterson checks out he would make an nice addition as well. OL is a mystery, esp. with the best options already gone, so let's hope the scouting department can mine one and/or one can be found in the draft.
 

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Fabini is likely to be signed, as well as eother Josh Brown or Mike Venderjagt. There is a good possibility we also sign Marcus Coleman
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
Fabini is likely to be signed, as well as eother Josh Brown or Mike Venderjagt. There is a good possibility we also sign Marcus Coleman

who is fabini:confused:
 

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Fabini is a mediocre cast off on the wrong side of 30 that the Jets dont even want.
 

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spook930 said:
who is fabini:confused:

Fabini = Injured Parcells retread - potential RT candidate for next year. He is emabarassingly leaps and bounds better than Pettiti and Tucker.
 

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1) Our offense will be significantly better because TO will alter the ways teams play us. He will take a ton of pressure off the running game which will allow Jones and Barber to do better. He will also make it easier for Witten and Glenn to make plays.

2) Our offense will also be better with a healthy Adams back in the lineup. I think Rivera will also be healthier this year. Having both those guys at full strength will make the line better.

3) Ayodele is an upgrade over what we had playing in the middle next to James last year.

4) The defense will have a year of the 3-4 under its belt. That will make them better.

5) Ware won't be a rookie and will know the position from the get go, that will make our defense better.

6) We have draft picks yet to come that will improve the quality of our team.

7) We will sign a free agent kicker, it is just a matter of time.
 

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whcarm said:
1) Our offense will be significantly better because TO will alter the ways teams play us. He will take a ton of pressure off the running game which will allow Jones and Barber to do better. He will also make it easier for Witten and Glenn to make plays.

2) Our offense will also be better with a healthy Adams back in the lineup. I think Rivera will also be healthier this year. Having both those guys at full strength will make the line better.

3) Ayodele is an upgrade over what we had playing in the middle next to James last year.

4) The defense will have a year of the 3-4 under its belt. That will make them better.

5) Ware won't be a rookie and will know the position from the get go, that will make our defense better.

6) We have draft picks yet to come that will improve the quality of our team.

7) We will sign a free agent kicker, it is just a matter of time.
Well that just ended this thread.
 

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Who do we have as a backup to Flo if he goes down again?
 

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JustSayNotoTO said:
Fabini is a mediocre cast off on the wrong side of 30 that the Jets dont even want.

You're just a ray of sunshine aren't you.:rolleyes:
 

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JustSayNotoTO said:
Fabini is a mediocre cast off on the wrong side of 30 that the Jets dont even want.

It was more of a cap move then the fact they did not want him.
 

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HomeOfLegends said:
It was more of a cap move then the fact they did not want him.


Don't let facts get in the way of a good bashing.
 

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JustSayNotoTO said:
Fabini is a mediocre cast off on the wrong side of 30 that the Jets dont even want.

:blind:

My interpretation:

The Jets' former Left Tackle, released in a cap-savings move. He will play Right Tackle in Dallas and serve as an experienced backup should Adams be injured again so nobody has to see Torrin Tucker again.......

:pray2:
 

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Fabini > Tucker, Pettitti or Rogers
Kosier = versatile swingman
Adoyele > injured Dat or Shanle
New kicker > than any kickers we had last year
Hannam vs Campbell, wash
Owens > Key
All rookies, one year more experienced
Singleton & Adams back
Henson, 10 games of onfield experience
Al Johnson, stronger more experienced
Gurode, resigned, experienced backup center
Henry, healthy again
Draft = OLB, S, OL
 

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te0002 said:
I understand all the T.O. rumor/news is going to grab headlines, but isn't all this attention simply masking the real issues facing this team? Let's assume the Cowboys do sign T.O., there is no way even those who support this move can say the team has made itself significantly better than last year. At WR? Yes, talent wise. But overall, this team still has many needs - namely FS, RT and Kicker. Most would add OLB to this list and I certainly wouldn't argue.

My concern - apart from T.O. temperment - is JJ thinking his making the biggest splash in FA, somehow cures all the other teams ills. A bigger splash for me would have been a press conference announcing the signing of Will Demps or Chris Hope. Hopefully Josh Brown gets signed and if Petterson checks out he would make an nice addition as well. OL is a mystery, esp. with the best options already gone, so let's hope the scouting department can mine one and/or one can be found in the draft.

You're entirely right. Owens is not going to single handedly carry this -- or any -- team deep into the postseason.

But to say he doesn't make our team much improved (provided he doesn't rip us apart lol --- some caveat (sp?), huh?) is false, in my opinion.

He's such a great player on the field that he does make that much of a difference.

You referenced RT, K, and FS as areas in need of improvement. And OLB, too. I entirely agree. But Fabini has been signed. Reports have suggested Coleman could be signed soon. Apparently, a deal is soon to be on the table for kicker Josh Brown. And Clarence Hill even said we have some slight interest in Julian Peterson if his price comes down.

If we were able to do even 3/4 of those moves, we've done a great job of improving this team, and leaving only holes at backup nose tackle and potentially more competition for Crayton at the third spot.

And of course, there's also the draft.

I don't think Jerry and Co. are just going to rest because they "got TO." Clearly, more must be done.
 

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te0002 said:
I understand all the T.O. rumor/news is going to grab headlines, but isn't all this attention simply masking the real issues facing this team? Let's assume the Cowboys do sign T.O., there is no way even those who support this move can say the team has made itself significantly better than last year. At WR? Yes, talent wise. But overall, this team still has many needs - namely FS, RT and Kicker. Most would add OLB to this list and I certainly wouldn't argue.

My concern - apart from T.O. temperment - is JJ thinking his making the biggest splash in FA, somehow cures all the other teams ills. A bigger splash for me would have been a press conference announcing the signing of Will Demps or Chris Hope. Hopefully Josh Brown gets signed and if Petterson checks out he would make an nice addition as well. OL is a mystery, esp. with the best options already gone, so let's hope the scouting department can mine one and/or one can be found in the draft.


Removing my feelings about TO as a mature individual, TO's presence has a HUGE impact on the Cowboys.

The Cowboys were three games from being the top seed in the NFC (The Commanders game, the Seahawks game and the Broncos game). I throw out the Rams game because we were just going through the motions.

We win those games and we're 13-3 and the first seed in the NFC.

Now, those field goals (or missed field goals I should say) were a result of us not getting into the end zone.

Yes, we had offensive line woes, but Keyshawn Johnson is not a break away threat, which causes teams to double Terry Glenn, taking him out of the game.

Because Jason Witten is blocking, that limits our pass receivers.

You add a TO (who is a better receiver than Keyshawn) and that adds a receiver the defense has to account for. That means less blitzing because either TO or Glenn can beat you. You have a TO, who scores at least 10 TDs a season, and you really don't need those field goals (or missed field goals).

TO will add a dimension to this team hasn't had in years.

And because we'll get Flozell Adams back and possibly sign a more reliable kicker, I'd say we have a dynamite offense (remember we have a healthy Julius Jones and Marion Barber) to go with a young, scrappy and improving defense.

And with the offseason acquisitions, we can now go "best available player" in the draft - a chance to get another playmaker.

Could Lendale White or DeAngelo Williams possibly drop to #18? Sure, we don't need another running back, but it doesn't hurt to have luxury at a particular position, and, remember, White is that big back that Parcells likes.

Do we go WR, nabbing either Holmes or (the guy from Florida, can't think of his name) and sit them behind TO for one or two years?

Do we continue to bolster our defense or go offense?

Again, I like the way Parcells is building this team. And even though I am among those who say "NO to TO," I'm not going to argue against his impact just because I don't like the way he carries himself. And his impact would/will be huge.
 
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