Article: Jeb Bush as NFL Commish?

[Hostile]

This is a joke right? If they are gonna bring in a commish who is a politician how about Jack Kemp or Steve Largent.

Kemp might be too old though. I would think they are looking for a guy who can stay 15 to 20 years.

 

[AbeBeta]

He turned that job down to become the commissioner.

you positive on that? most of my searches say he became their GM in 57 then the commish in 60

 

[Doomsday101]

you positive on that? most of my searches say he became their GM in 57 then the commish in 60

I'm sure he worked at the public relations with the rams but turned down the GM because of the commissioner’s job


Rozelle was born in South Gate, California and grew up in suburban Lynwood, California during the Great Depression. He graduated from Compton High School in 1944, lettering in baseball and basketball. He was drafted into the Navy in 1944 and served 18 months in the Pacific on an oil tanker. Rozelle began his career at the University of San Francisco, working as a student publicist for the school's football team. He had already worked in public relations for the LA Rams front office and while in the athletic office at USF he marketed the Don's national championship basketball season of 1949 into a national media event. He graduated from USF that year.

He held a series of public relations jobs in Southern California, marketing the 1956 Olympics in Melbourne, Australia for an Los Angeles based company. He joined the Los Angeles Rams as its public relations specialist. By 1957, Rozelle was offered the GM job with the Rams. He turned a disorganized, unprofitable team, lost in the growing LA market, into a business success.

 

[AbeBeta]

This is a joke right? If they are gonna bring in a commish who is a politician how about Jack Kemp or Steve Largent.

I'd be surprised if Largent got a sniff. Some of his views are pretty extreme -- I'm not saying right or wrong here. But he'd have the potential to alienate far more folks than the more middle of the road Jeb Bush.

 

[Hostile]

I'd be surprised if Largent got a sniff. Some of his views are pretty extreme -- I'm not saying right or wrong here. But he'd have the potential to alienate far more folks than the more middle of the road Jeb Bush.

Once again, it isn't about views. It's about ability to lead.

Can he or can't he?

***I say that without knowing Largent's views.***

 

[AbeBeta]

I'm sure he worked at the public relations with the rams but turned down the GM because of the commissioner’s job


Rozelle was born in South Gate, California and grew up in suburban Lynwood, California during the Great Depression. He graduated from Compton High School in 1944, lettering in baseball and basketball. He was drafted into the Navy in 1944 and served 18 months in the Pacific on an oil tanker. Rozelle began his career at the University of San Francisco, working as a student publicist for the school's football team. He had already worked in public relations for the LA Rams front office and while in the athletic office at USF he marketed the Don's national championship basketball season of 1949 into a national media event. He graduated from USF that year.

He held a series of public relations jobs in Southern California, marketing the 1956 Olympics in Melbourne, Australia for an Los Angeles based company. He joined the Los Angeles Rams as its public relations specialist. By 1957, Rozelle was offered the GM job with the Rams. He turned a disorganized, unprofitable team, lost in the growing LA market, into a business success.

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/comish/rozelle.html


After Compton J.C., Rozelle attended the University of San Francisco, where he became USF's publicity director for athletics. He graduated in 1950 and took on a 2nd job, assistant athletic director. Two years later, he was hired by Schramm to be the Rams' PR director. In 1955, he left to become a partner in a firm that did publicity work for the 1956 Olympic Games in Melbourne, Australia. He returned to the Rams as general manager in 1957.

On January 26, 1960, Rozelle was voted NFL commissioner after seven days of balloting. He was told of his election in the bathroom, and when he emerged, he jokingly told owners, "I come to you with clean hands." Rozelle was chosen as a compromise after owners could not agree on 2 other candidates.

 

[Doomsday101]

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nfl/comish/rozelle.html


After Compton J.C., Rozelle attended the University of San Francisco, where he became USF's publicity director for athletics. He graduated in 1950 and took on a 2nd job, assistant athletic director. Two years later, he was hired by Schramm to be the Rams' PR director. In 1955, he left to become a partner in a firm that did publicity work for the 1956 Olympic Games in Melbourne, Australia. He returned to the Rams as general manager in 1957.

On January 26, 1960, Rozelle was voted NFL commissioner after seven days of balloting. He was told of his election in the bathroom, and when he emerged, he jokingly told owners, "I come to you with clean hands." Rozelle was chosen as a compromise after owners could not agree on 2 other candidates.

three-year tenure as general manager, before his election to the NFL Commissioner’s post. Your correct

 

[AbeBeta]

Once again, it isn't about views. It's about ability to lead.

Can he or can't he?

***I say that without knowing Largent's views.***

He was pretty divisive in the House of Reps. Not a "team player" is ironically the term often used to describe him.

 

[the kid 05]

he would turn the NFL into hockey, i dont want to endure a lock out when this cba is up again in what was it? 8 years? 9?

 

[Hostile]

He was pretty divisive in the House of Reps. Not a "team player" is ironically the term often used to describe him.

Yes, but does that trasnlate to every aspect of his life?

I'm sorry but football is NOT politics. A person's political leanings have NOTHING whatsoever to do with their ability to run the NFL.

 

[AbeBeta]

Yes, but does that trasnlate to every aspect of his life?

I'm sorry but football is NOT politics. A person's political leanings have NOTHING whatsoever to do with their ability to run the NFL.

It does if those leanings are extreme and offensive to many.

Largent also has had issues dealing with the media -- there was an incident where he swore at a reporter on TV or something in 2001. If he can't figure out that you can't tell a reporter to *$*$*^% themselves when you are a high profile member of the US House of Reps then maybe you don't have the stuff to be in such high profile positions.

Really, aside from being a former NFL great, I don't see his qualifications.

 

[Hostile]

It does if those leanings are extreme and offensive to many.

Largent also has had issues dealing with the media -- there was an incident where he swore at a reporter on TV or something in 2001. If he can't figure out that you can't tell a reporter to *$*$*^% themselves when you are a high profile member of the US House of Reps then maybe you don't have the stuff to be in such high profile positions.

Really, aside from being a former NFL great, I don't see his qualifications.

I disagree with your first contention. I could care less who his views offend in the general public. The NFL is not a political entity it is a business. Can he lead the NFL? That's the relevant question. Not what are his political leanings?

The middle paragraph is more important because the NFL Commish is in the news constantly and has to have a good rapport.

 

[BigDFan5]

It does if those leanings are extreme and offensive to many.

Largent also has had issues dealing with the media -- there was an incident where he swore at a reporter on TV or something in 2001. If he can't figure out that you can't tell a reporter to *$*$*^% themselves when you are a high profile member of the US House of Reps then maybe you don't have the stuff to be in such high profile positions.

Really, aside from being a former NFL great, I don't see his qualifications.

From what I remember he never told anyone to go **** themselves. A reporter kept pressing him on where he was on 9-11 he said "Thats bull ****"

He was on a hunting trip on 9-11 so he did not even know it happened until a day later

 

[jackrussell]

+1 to you for using the word "plethora" twice.

Great word.

I just learndeded it.:

 

[AbeBeta]

From what I remember he never told anyone to go **** themselves. A reporter kept pressing him on where he was on 9-11 he said "Thats bull ****"

He was on a hunting trip on 9-11 so he did not even know it happened until a day later

So he doesn't do well when pressed by the media?

That's a not a good characteristic for the leader of the top professional sports league in the U.S.

If that had happened as a player fine -- but as a freaking Congressman? Come on now. That's pretty lame behavior.

 

[BigDFan5]

So he doesn't do well when pressed by the media?

That's a not a good characteristic for the leader of the top professional sports league in the U.S.

If that had happened as a player fine -- but as a freaking Congressman? Come on now. That's pretty lame behavior.

IMO it was pretty lame of the reporter to act like he did something wrong by not knowing what had happened when he was on vacation hunting in the idaho wilderness.

9-11 just happened and a reporter is pressing you like there was anything you could have done if only you would have been in DC not off hunting, and you wouldnt be upset? He said thats bull****. He didn;t cuss a reporter or anything else.

Also when did politicians become robots? Do you think no politician cusses? He said the word bull ****, who really cares?

 

[AbeBeta]

IMO it was pretty lame of the reporter to act like he did something wrong by not knowing what had happened when he was on vacation hunting in the idaho wilderness.

9-11 just happened and a reporter is pressing you like there was anything you could have done if only you would have been in DC not off hunting, and you wouldnt be upset? He said thats bull****. He didn;t cuss a reporter or anything else.

Also when did politicians become robots? Do you think no politician cusses? He said the word bull ****, who really cares?

As I understand it there was some confusion as Largent's staff put out a press release about 9-11 and that release was attributed to Largent by his staff.

So we've got one account where Largent's name is on a press release offering his condolences -- and another account suggesting that Largent didn't even know about 9-11.

Me, I'm a reporter, I'm looking for some clarification.

All Largent had to say was "hey, my staff put out that release b/c they felt they knew my response" -- instead he loses his temper.

Again, not the kind of traits I'd want to see in a commish.

 

[BigDFan5]

As I understand it there was some confusion as Largent's staff put out a press release about 9-11 and that release was attributed to Largent by his staff.

So we've got one account where Largent's name is on a press release offering his condolences -- and another account suggesting that Largent didn't even know about 9-11.

Me, I'm a reporter, I'm looking for some clarification.

All Largent had to say was "hey, my staff put out that release b/c they felt they knew my response" -- instead he loses his temper.

Again, not the kind of traits I'd want to see in a commish.

See thats the point here we are in the midst of tragedy and they wanna argue over semantics? The staffs job is to put out the memos, of course Largent was going to express sympathy, did he need to tell the staf that? Do you really think they werent sure if he would express sympathy?

Instead of worrying about Largents memos or where he was the press should have been focused on real issues such as I don't know maybe the planes that hit 3 buildings? And that is what he called bull**** was the fact that where he was had nothing to do with the policy issues at hand

 

[AbeBeta]

Instead of worrying about Largents memos or where he was the press should have been focused on real issues such as I don't know maybe the planes that hit 3 buildings? And that is what he called bull**** was the fact that where he was had nothing to do with the policy issues at hand

I'm not arguing the semantics -- nor do I particularly care about them.

What bothers me is I see a guy who gets pressed by the media and he doesn't keep his cool.

That doesn't strike me as a good trait for a commish

 

[BigDFan5]

I'm not arguing the semantics -- nor do I particularly care about them.

What bothers me is I see a guy who gets pressed by the media and he doesn't keep his cool.

That doesn't strike me as a good trait for a commish

This does not show he doesnt keep his cool, it shows he doesnt like petty bull**** and wants to focus on real issues