ARTICLE: Owens ready to set up camp

[jazzcat22]

Yes for a rather cheap cost I won't send my kid to a football camp where he can learn the skills that might possibly let him succeed him in the NFL.
/sarcasm off

Look, this is a camp for the kids. TO is not going to be the only one there, there will be other NFL guys both current and former. Who better to learn some of the things you need to be sucessful. If my son could learn the same dedication that TO shows on and off the field to the game of football I am all for it.

Do you honestly think that TO is going to say "hey, this is how you do an endzone celabration." or "this is what you do when you don't get the money you think you deserve on a job"

Let's hope you don't get Alzheimer's because TO's has a non profit that helps fund the research. I would assume that you would not want any of the medication used to help treat it or want to rely on any of the research because TO gives to help fund Alzheimer's.

News flash.....kids already idolize him, now perhaps they get to meet him and realize that not everything you see on TV is how a person really is. Look, you dont' like the guy, you don't like his camp, we get that. Let the guy play football and see what happens. Or are you just trying to get your comments in now so you can say I told you so if things don't work ok.

THANK YOU Could not have said it better myself.

It's not out like he's teaching kids to be a thug right? Which TO is not a thug.

If my son was young enough for this, I would pay it and send him.

 

[Alexander]

THANK YOU Could not have said it better myself.

It's not out like he's teaching kids to be a thug right? Which TO is not a thug.

If my son was young enough for this, I would pay it and send him.

You are a very bad parent for even considering exposing your child to such pure evil.

 

[cowboynDC]

Can you honestly tell me that a person sending a kid to a TO camp is not silently endorsing T.O. as a PERSON and a player. Come on, in a kids eyes if you are sending him there you are saying to the kid, "it is OK to be like him"

Find a camp with someone that teaches skills better and is not a terrible role model.

Fact is, T.O. does not even catch the ball correctly in some of the practice film I have seen

Yes, I would be endorsing (be like him) - - aka work hard, play hard, be a winner - - BUT I would also work hard to show my son that the attitude off the field is destructive to the TEAM, and ultimately to him. Exposing him (or her, sorry ladies) to a negative, then working to give them understanding is what parenting is all about (drugs & alcohol discussed not indulged). We all do our best, but shielding them from everything isn't good. TO has some draw backs, but the chance to teach your child TO on the field and you balancing the moral side out - you may get an awesome football player who is also a special person (there are some of those out there).

 

[5Stars]

It is part of American culture.

Blame television and bad role models for your own failures to execute your duty as a parent.

Being victims is something our culture is very good at.

ABSOUTELY! You have earned 5 stars! Well put...!!

 

[aikemirv]

I really don't get this at all! Keyshawn, just like any other high strung competitor on the football field or elsewhere, is going to have times when his behavior might be viewed in a negative way...however...

Watching Keyshawn hand those TD balls to handicapped children in the stands...learning how he totally paid all expenses to help another paralized young football player get spine treatment, a special van, redoing his house so he could get in and out with the motorized wheelchair that Keyshawn bought for him...and countless other stories about how he does things like this....?

Wow....

I never knew much about Keyshawn before he bacame a Cowboy, but, these past few year watching him play and learning more about him...he became my good buddie! If you are allowing Irvin to "change" and you would send a kid to his camp...well, why not the same allowances to others? It is POSSIBLE that people have just as many good traits as they have bad ones...everyone on the face of the earth does.

Because Keyshawn has degraded others to make himself look better. Just ask Chrebet. He makes no apologies for it.

 

[peplaw06]

I really don't get this at all! Keyshawn, just like any other high strung competitor on the football field or elsewhere, is going to have times when his behavior might be viewed in a negative way...however...

Watching Keyshawn hand those TD balls to handicapped children in the stands...learning how he totally paid all expenses to help another paralized young football player get spine treatment, a special van, redoing his house so he could get in and out with the motorized wheelchair that Keyshawn bought for him...and countless other stories about how he does things like this....?

Wow....

I never knew much about Keyshawn before he bacame a Cowboy, but, these past few year watching him play and learning more about him...he became my good buddie! If you are allowing Irvin to "change" and you would send a kid to his camp...well, why not the same allowances to others? It is POSSIBLE that people have just as many good traits as they have bad ones...everyone on the face of the earth does.

The problem is the media doesn't rev up the machine when a player does this type of work in the community, MAYBE if it's the local media. Good news doesn't sell nationally. TO has done the same types of things, but do you think you'd see that on ESPN?? :laugh2:

 

[Alexander]

The problem is the media doesn't rev up the machine when a player does this type of work in the community, MAYBE if it's the local media. Good news doesn't sell nationally. TO has done the same types of things, but do you think you'd see that on ESPN?? :laugh2:

Stop defending him.

ESPN and the rest of the media has told the complete truth about the whole sordid mess and you would be best served to watch all of it over again just so you understand.

 

[WV Cowboy]

There has to be a little proof. There are other people who have said Irvin is a chnaged guy. By the way, T.O. has already said he was a Christian, his behavior does not support the claim however.

Is Irvin guilty of what happened a few months ago, I am not quite sure. It would be a hard decision. If I did I would tell my son that he claims to have changed, go to the camp and let me know if there is any eveidence of the change.

:laugh2: :laugh1: :laugh2: :laugh1:

And if there was no evidence of change, then you did exactly what you said everyone should not do, ... which was to expose your child to questionable character.

That is too funny.

Try to lose the "Hate TO agenda" and then get back to me.

 

[superpunk]

I never knew much about Keyshawn before he bacame a Cowboy, but, these past few year watching him play and learning more about him...he became my good buddie! If you are allowing Irvin to "change" and you would send a kid to his camp...well, why not the same allowances to others? It is POSSIBLE that people have just as many good traits as they have bad ones...everyone on the face of the earth does.

Keyshawn and T.O. are not Triplets.

That is how it's different.

Because apparently being a jerk is worse than breaking the law IF you did not help the Cowboys win three super bowls. If you did, then go ahead and light up.

It's all good.

 

[Alexander]

:laugh2: :laugh1: :laugh2: :laugh1:

And if there was no evidence of change, then you did exactly what you said everyone should not do, ... which was to expose your child to questionable character.

That is too funny.

Try to lose the "Hate TO agenda" and then get back to me.

Morality and sportsmanship are the same thing?

I am learning so much today! :

 

[Yeagermeister]

TO will be teaching TD celebrations to the kids

 

[jazzcat22]

You are a very bad parent for even considering exposing your child to such pure evil.

What? Are you telling me Sean Taylor from the Deadskins is going to be at TO's camp?:laugh2:

 

[peplaw06]

How is it entirely different??

Next question.

I guess he DID pull a Drew Rosenhaus on this question...:laugh1:

 

[Alexander]

Keyshawn and T.O. are not Triplets.

That is how it's different.

Because apparently being a jerk is worse than breaking the law IF you did not help the Cowboys win three super bowls. If you did, then go ahead and light up.

It's all good.

The same thing happened when Emmitt Smith made his "diamond among trash" comment.

Anyone who hadn't achieved what he did got crucified. I think Brandon Noble said the very same thing when he went to Washington and he got it with both barrels from angry fans.

But this was Emmitt Smith, he was just misunderstood.

 

[DC Cowboy]

Thank you, too, Jack, for saying it much better than I did. You hit the nail square on the head. I admire TO's athleticism and competitiveness, there's lots to be respected there, it's the things he says and does and how he goes about it off the field that I become angry at, even though I know I shouldn't allow myself to do so. I apologize for allowing my emotions to adversely affect what I said in my post. It's not hate, just anger and indignation. I would probably like him if he would grow up. I actually do know better than to have an emotion reaction to someone who is trying to evoke emotional reactions in people, I just had a lapse.

Still wouldn't send my kids unless I just wanted them to sass me.

I would send my kids in a heart beat b/c they can learn the game. The other values are taught at home. If you raise YOUR kids right then they can not be influence by someone they don't see on a regular basis. Both my sons see me everyday therefore their values are coming from me not some guy they see once a week on TV or at a football camp. You guys are taking this too far. Granted he hasn't handled his self right according your standards but I would bet everyone of us have made some mistakes if not then throw the first stone. None of us have any idea what he will tell those kids that will attend his camp. Maybe he might tell them to stand up for what they believe. Let me stop b/c I could go on for days and it won't make a difference.

 

[5Stars]

What? Are you telling me Sean Taylor from the Deadskins is going to be at TO's camp?:laugh2:

Now THAT IS someone that I would not allow my kid to attend a camp with! (or visit Michael Jackson)...!!

:dissskin:

 

[peplaw06]

The same thing happened when Emmitt Smith made his "diamond among trash" comment.

Anyone who hadn't achieved what he did got crucified. I think Brandon Noble said the very same thing when he went to Washington and he got it with both barrels from angry fans.

But this was Emmitt Smith, he was just misunderstood.

I actually think the problem is going the other way... if I'm understanding you correctly. The problem isn't defending Emmitt for his comments because he "was a triplet." What I hate is that the court of public opinion imposes a death penalty for what may be a completely innocent remark, or possibly said in jest, because it's politically incorrect. The PC society is what's wrong. Journalists DON'T HESITATE to take quotes out of context. That's what they do.

Then when the out of context statement is reported, they go, "Look how bad Emmitt Smith is, he thinks he's better than everyone." I'm talking in generalities here, I don't remember the particular context of ES's comment. I try not to let athletes comments be watershed moments in my life.

 

[BigDFan5]

People will rue the day this Charity camp takes place.

Soon al of Dallas will burn while the Anti-Christ TO sits on his throne of flames and laughs at the inoccent victims left in the wake of his new world order!!

 

[aikemirv]

You guys are so much for giving someone a second chance and when I give Irvin one, it is being hypocritical.

If you say so.

Has Irvin said I was wrong, I believe he has. Has T.O. said he was wrong. I don't believe he has.

Sorry guys, I don't mean to upset your moral compass here, but it is not about morality or sportsmanship, breaking the law is no bigger sin than pride. If you would like to take me to task go ahead. Smoking pot is no bigger sin than comparing your persecution to that of Jesus Christ.

So what is your morality based on? Mine is based on the Bible, not what I think, it is set in stone and has been for 2000 years. Yours could change tommorrow if you feel different than you do today.

Proverbs 6:17 These six things does the Lord hate: A proud look, a lying tongue and hands that shed innocent blood. --- what is worse IYO

I am not perfect never will be on earth.

Go ahead and have your fun guys!

 

[superpunk]

You guys are so much for giving someone a second chance and when I give Irvin one, it is being hypocritical.

That's why it IS hypocritical. Because you offer Irvin that second chance for far more egregious crimes, but not Keyshawn or TO for character issues. Makes no sense.