At what point must we make a move for DE?

[NorthwestDallas40]

Tapper, Taco, Dlaw and Moyawa? Is that the worst DE group in the NFL?

Yes

 

[The Natural]

"We" are asking the questions. Are the Cowboys?

they certainly should be

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yes

I'd say it's the most unproven.

Can't say it's the worst until they've competed.

 

[DFWJC]

I thought the Cowboys were kicking Crawford inside?

He's had a good camp so far and was sounding like he had the LDE starting slot sewed up.

 

[bigbob]

I just dont think we can go into opening day, division rival game with two rookies as our only DE depth.

They are lol.
Dallas won't spend any $.
They will go cheap.

 

[casmith07]

At what point must we make a move for DE?
.

In the 2018 NFL Draft.

 

[BAT]

We'll know after the season is over.

If you're not evaluating and grading every game, every practice then the Cowboys are doing it wrong. Waiting until after the entire season has passed to identify and repair problems is piss poor management.

Landry, Jimmy and Parcells were always churning and improving roster DURING the season. And everyone knows, Jimmy wasn't shy about trading for players.

There is not ONE solution. Use evey means available including draft (Taco), FA (convince Ware to come out of retirement, sign cuts from other teams e.g. Shaneil Jenkins from Seahawks, etc.) AND trades (Matt Judon, Tim Williams, Tyus Bowser - Ravens have too many EDGE players).

 

[MichaelWinicki]

If you're not evaluating and grading every game, every practice then the Cowboys are doing it wrong. Waiting until after the entire season has passed to identify and repair problems is piss poor management.

Landry, Jimmy and Parcells were always churning and improving roster DURING the season. And everyone knows, Jimmy wasn't shy about trading for players.

There is not ONE solution. Use evey means available including draft (Taco), FA (convince Ware to come out of retirement, sign cuts from other teams e.g. Shaneil Jenkins from Seahawks, etc.) AND trades (Matt Judon, Tim Williams, Tyus Bowser - Ravens have too many EDGE players).

How do you know they aren't grading?

And maybe they like their solutions better than what's out there?

The DE position has changed a great deal in the last 3 seasons.

And maybe they will add something DURING the season, but at this point they have two guys that will be joining the team early on in the season.

Finally roster spots are at a premium.

I can't envision them cutting:

Crawford
Lawrence
Tapper
Mayowa
Irving
Charlton

That's 6 guys right there?

Those guys are flat-out safe.

Then you have Moore who by many accounts has looked darned good in camp.

 

[BAT]

How do you know they aren't grading?

And maybe they like their solutions better than what's out there?

The DE position has changed a great deal in the last 3 seasons.

And maybe they will add something DURING the season, but at this point they have two guys that will be joining the team early on in the season.

Finally roster spots are at a premium.

I can't envision them cutting:

Crawford
Lawrence
Tapper
Mayowa
Irving
Charlton

That's 6 guys right there?

Those guys are flat-out safe.

Then you have Moore who by many accounts has looked darned good in camp.

YOU were the one saying evaluation will occur end of season Mike, not me.

And if you can't envision an upgrade from those 6 guys then the discussion is moot, I can't help you there.

 

[Kaiser]

I'd say it's the most unproven.

Can't say it's the worst until they've competed.

Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of the 400,000 posts that said our 2015 defense would be the "worst of the last 30 years".

 

[MichaelWinicki]

YOU were the one saying evaluation will occur end of season Mike, not me.

And if you can't envision an upgrade from those 6 guys then the discussion is moot, I can't help you there.

That evaluation was in reference to a ham & eggers statement that this set of DE's is the worst in the NFL...

How do you know if:

A. Some haven't played a snap in the NFL
B. Some are coming back from an injury problem

Shouldn't you allow some games to be played first?

And truly unless you give them a full season of snaps... You don't know.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of the 400,000 posts that said our 2015 defense would be the "worst of the last 30 years".

Cowboy fans have the gift of hyperbole. lol

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

Who's available?

Any DE in the NFL. Just depends on what we're willing to give up

 

[Corso]

The four you mentioned --- D Law if he is here --- will hold the fort. Taco as 3rd string.
Its our linebackers who will be the sieve and make the DEs look bad.[/QUOTE

I was going to comment something clever and then Fever Lake came on the tube and the conflagration of Corey Haim and Mario Lopez on one set caused me to have the most massive brain dump since that cock fight in East LA with the cops questioning me about who organized the event.

I was just there to pick up a friend! I was trying to get my happy booty to Vegas!

 

[reddyuta]

Yes

2 rookies ,a journeyman and a guy with one foot out the door,i would say a big Yes.

 

[BAT]

That evaluation was in reference to a ham & eggers statement that this set of DE's is the worst in the NFL...

How do you know if:

A. Some haven't played a snap in the NFL
B. Some are coming back from an injury problem

Shouldn't you allow some games to be played first?

And truly unless you give them a full season of snaps... You don't know.

It doesn't take a full year for me to evaluate the performance of my employees. And hoping that a player will improve is not a solution. Injuries happen, good front offices will factor that in when projecting productivity.

More competition, more talent is not something to shy away from and the best companies not only embrace it, they absolutely encourage it. I would not settle on Mayowa, TCraw, DLaw or Tapper. Neither of these guys have earned that protection. If an acquisition outplays them, then that is for the best of the team.

There needs to come a time when the best defense on this team is not having the offense playing more and the D playing less. Championships are still won by defense. If Cowboys are serious about fighting for a ring THIS season then this needs to addressed sooner rather than later.

 

[bigbob]

needs to come a time when the best defense on this team is not having the offense playing more and the D playing less. Championships are still won by defense. If Cowboys are serious about fighting for a ring THIS season then this needs to addressed

That is true they need it they need to have a good great defense. I think you can forget about a ring this year though they are going to go with what they have and hope they get there but I doubt they will

 

[Corso]

That is true they need it they need to have a good great defense. I think you can forget about a ring this year though they are going to go with what they have and hope they get there but I doubt they will

Who is this @bigbob and why am I enjoying him so much?
I like this guy!

 

[Hawkeye0202]

We missed the window to add an impact player. We might add somebody at cutdowns, but it won't be anybody special. We've gotta roll with what we've got now.

At least it sounds like Crawford will be back.

Not sure how many know this but Randy Gregory can apply for reinstatement somewhere around the first week of November. Remember he was suspended for a year Jan 6 but if I'm not mistaken, he can apply for reinstatement 60 days BEFORE his suspension expires. That would make him eligible Nov 6. HOWEVER, as we've learned with Randy being eligible to return AND clean, are two different things (LOL).

 

[Corso]

Not sure how many know this but Randy Gregory can apply for reinstatement somewhere around the first week of November. Remember he was suspended for a year Jan 6 but if I'm not mistaken, he can apply for reinstatement 60 days BEFORE his suspension expires. That would make him eligible Nov 6. HOWEVER, as we've learned with Randy being eligible to return AND clean, are two different things (LOL).

I wonder (which means have serious doubts) about how ready he'd be for Pro Football in general.