Auburn wins

[joseephuss]

Yes, but we can get that in the Rose Bowl instead. I'd rather the National Championship be an enjoyable game.

OSU is #2 in the human polls, but by a very slim margin. 1 computer poll, Kenneth Massey, has Auburn ahead of OSU by 1 spot. Sagarin has OSU several spots ahead of Auburn, but that will probably be Auburn's "drop" so it won't hurt them. I think ultimately OSU will have the slimmest of leads this week - so slim that they could easily lose it if Auburn wins next week.

It is possible. If OSU does not win impressively against MichSt and Auburn puts up a good win against Mizzou then maybe Auburn can sneak in. I don't think anything is set in stone quite yet.

 

[DFWJC]

Missouri could very well end up beating Auburn.

As it is, there are three 11-1 SEC teams. Pretty wild.

Whether some think they deserve it or not, Ohio State and what would be a 25 game win streak if the beat an 11-1 Michigan State team would most likely hold off either Auburn or Mizzou. imo

Florida State is in unless the upsets of all upsets happens.

 

[joseephuss]

Missouri could very well end up beating Auburn.

As it is, there are three 11-1 SEC teams. Pretty wild.

Whether some think they deserve it or not, Ohio State and what would be a 25 game win streak if the beat an 11-1 Michigan State team would most likely hold off either Auburn or Mizzou. imo

Florida State is in unless the upsets of all upsets happens.

Or Winston gets charged, then maybe someone else sneeks in, but I doubt he gets charged before these things are decided.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I think he's a guy that a lot of people love to hate. Fact is anyone who has tremendous success in any sports league is going to be hated by everyone not a fan of that team. Nobody hates the Jaguars, but a lot of people sure hate the Patriots.

Oh, if that's why they hate him I guess I understand.

That is small, .. but I get it.

 

[tyke1doe]

I think a 1-loss Auburn deserves to go over Ohio State. And if Auburn loses next week, I think a 1-loss Alabama deserves to go over Ohio State.

I would like to see Auburn or Alabama in the National Championship Game or both.
But I would think it would be grossly unfair if either jumped Ohio State if Ohio State wins against Michigan State.
Grossly unfair.
If you didn't want Ohio State as #2 and didn't want them to play for a National Championship, then you don't rank them that high at the beginning of the season.

 

[Aikbach]

I would like to see Auburn or Alabama in the National Championship Game or both.
But I would think it would be grossly unfair if either jumped Ohio State if Ohio State wins against Michigan State.
Grossly unfair.
If you didn't want Ohio State as #2 and didn't want them to play for a National Championship, then you don't rank them that high at the beginning of the season.

One reason teams like Bama and Ohio State get to skate by on their weak schedules is the preseason positioning that doesn't make them claw their way up.

 

[Wheeltax]

Apparently Alabama fans have been bombarding their field goal kicker with death threats.

I never thought any fanbase would surpass the Philadelphia Eagles as the most classless in all of sports, but I think Alabama fans have finally supplanted them entirely.

Also, I would like some numbers on what percentage of BAMA ROLL MFIN TIDE ROLL fans have ever even been to the state of Alabama.

 

[joseephuss]

Which kicker? The one who missed 3 FGs? Or the one who missed the final FG? Or do they even know there's a difference?

 

[Aikbach]

Oh, if that's why they hate him I guess I understand.

That is small, .. but I get it.

I personally dislike Saban for his cattiness after losses, two faced thief in the night exodus from the pros, and overall word of mouth he isn't a pleasant fellow, blackmailing Bama students to stay at games in blowouts and for uninteresting competition, or lose group tickets etc, it is over the line.

 

[Rogah]

Now that the BCS standings are out and I can see everyone's score, OSU had a bigger lead over Auburn than I thought they would. So I am definitely revisiting my prediction that they could overtake OSU if both win.

 

[joseephuss]

Now that the BCS standings are out and I can see everyone's score, OSU had a bigger lead over Auburn than I thought they would. So I am definitely revisiting my prediction that they could overtake OSU if both win.

Really? I was thinking the opposite. It looks closer than I thought it might be and I did think it would be close. If Auburn wins prettier than OSU then they may be able to make up some of those human votes. They will probably get a bump in the computer polls since Mizzou is ranked much higher than MichSt. It is going to come down to the wire.

 

[SportsGuru80]

That might be the best finish to a sports game in history!!!!

 

[Rogah]

Really? I was thinking the opposite. It looks closer than I thought it might be and I did think it would be close. If Auburn wins prettier than OSU then they may be able to make up some of those human votes. They will probably get a bump in the computer polls since Mizzou is ranked much higher than MichSt. It is going to come down to the wire.

The problem for Auburn is that any Ohio State win is going to be a heckuva lot prettier than how they beat Michigan. So anyone already inclined to vote in favor of 1-loss Auburn is probably already there. If the voters were going to punish OSU, they would have done it already.

As for the computers, if Auburn was going to catch up to OSU it would have happened yesterday when they played Alabama and OSU played Michigan. Throw out each team's best and each team's worst, and OSU leads Auburn in all 4 remaining. It's not like OSU is playing an unranked team next week. Mizzou is only 5 spots ahead of Mich State.

 

[joseephuss]

The problem for Auburn is that any Ohio State win is going to be a heckuva lot prettier than how they beat Michigan. So anyone already inclined to vote in favor of 1-loss Auburn is probably already there. If the voters were going to punish OSU, they would have done it already.

As for the computers, if Auburn was going to catch up to OSU it would have happened yesterday when they played Alabama and OSU played Michigan. Throw out each team's best and each team's worst, and OSU leads Auburn in all 4 remaining. It's not like OSU is playing an unranked team next week. Mizzou is only 5 spots ahead of Mich State.

I don't agree. First, I don't think of it has punishing OSU. It is more of a rewarding Auburn and this would most likely occur next week. I heard Brad Edwards of ESPN say the same thing yesterday morning. Those voters inclined to do so want to wait a week to make sure.

Missouri has a 0.830 computer scoring percentage and Michigan St has a 0.620 computer scoring percentage. That is a significant scoring difference. Those two opponents have not yet been factored into the scoring system for Auburn and OSU, respectively. It will have an impact.

Mizzou will be the 5th team Auburn has faced that is currently ranked in the BCS top 25. Michigan St will be the 2nd team OSU has faced that is currently ranked in the BCS top 25. How does OSU lead Auburn if you throw out the best and worst teams they have faced?

If both win out Auburn will jump OSU in the computer polls. The key is the human polls, which will be harder to overcome. I think it is a possibility, but I don't think it will happen.

 

[joseephuss]

I also like Mizzou's chances of beating Auburn.

 

[Future]

I think its very possible. Everyone I know who watches football dislikes Saban.

Hi, I'm MIke. I watch college football, am not an Alabama fan, and I like Saban.

 

[Future]

Or Winston gets charged, then maybe someone else sneeks in, but I doubt he gets charged before these things are decided.

I'd say the chances of him being charged and, in turn, ineligible to play in a major bowl game are tiny.

 

[koolaid]

Hi, I'm MIke. I watch college football, am not an Alabama fan, and I like Saban.

Not a Bama fan and you like Saban!? Preposterous
I suppose a lot of people don't care for Mack Brown but that is mostly disenchanted Texas fans.
Urban Meyer gets a lot of hate.
Pete Carroll got a lot of hate, but isn't in the college game anymore.
Maybe Lane Kiffen is more hated than Saban.
Those are the most obvious ones I can think of.

 

[Rogah]

I don't agree. First, I don't think of it has punishing OSU. It is more of a rewarding Auburn and this would most likely occur next week. I heard Brad Edwards of ESPN say the same thing yesterday morning. Those voters inclined to do so want to wait a week to make sure.

Right. And then some other guy on the exact same show said that the voters had a sour taste with OSU's poor performance against Michigan. That sour taste will be gone after Saturday if they win.

Missouri has a 0.830 computer scoring percentage and Michigan St has a 0.620 computer scoring percentage. That is a significant scoring difference.

That's not a significant scoring difference when looking at strength of schedule. Both Auburn and OSU are playing 11-1 teams this weekend. Yes Auburn's opponent is statistically better, but it isn't so lopsided that they will jump over OSU.

If Auburn was going to jump OSU in the computers, it would have happened this weekend, when Auburn played the #1 team in the nation and OSU played an unranked team. If that difference wasn't enough to jump OSU in the computers, then both teams playing 11-1 teams the same weekend won't do it.

Mizzou will be the 5th team Auburn has faced that is currently ranked in the BCS top 25. Michigan St will be the 2nd team OSU has faced that is currently ranked in the BCS top 25. How does OSU lead Auburn if you throw out the best and worst teams they have faced?

You obviously don't understand how the BCS computer rankings work. I wasn't saying throw out their best and worst teams they have played, I was saying throw out each team's best and worst computer rankings (which is what the BCS does). Throw out OSU's best and worst, and they are left with 4 #2 rankings. Throw our Auburn's best and worst and they are left with 4 #3 rankings. I just don't see any chance Auburn jumps OSU in those 4 rankings considering their upcoming opponents are roughly equal strength.

If both win out Auburn will jump OSU in the computer polls. The key is the human polls, which will be harder to overcome. I think it is a possibility, but I don't think it will happen.

Well, I disagree with what you're saying about the computer polls, but I agree the human element is wildy unpredictable.

 

[Rogah]

I'd say the chances of him being charged and, in turn, ineligible to play in a major bowl game are tiny.

I think there is a 50/50 chance he gets charged, but I really believe FSU will exercise their "extraordinary circumstances" clause to decide NOT to suspend him while the charges are pending.