Auburn wins

[Future]

I think there is a 50/50 chance he gets charged, but I really believe FSU will exercise their "extraordinary circumstances" clause to decide NOT to suspend him while the charges are pending.

That's basically what I mean. There's nothing substantial that will happen before a bowl game.

 

[jterrell]

Ohio State's defense isn't any better. Missouri's is. I'm not saying that is enough to make either team leap frog OSU, but it is a poor argument against it.

There won't be a 8 team playoff for many years and it will be even longer before a 16 team playoff is considered.

OSU's record is better.
Auburn's been winning by razor thin margins.
And in the game they lost they lost by 2 touch downs.

That defense insures almost any solid team will be in the game with them all game long.

The SEC is getting left out this year and hopefully that spurs enough anger to advance us to an 8/16 game playoff more quickly than anticipated.
The money and interest is certainly there.
We were told there'd NEVER be a playoff not that long ago.

 

[Rogah]

OSU's record is better.
Auburn's been winning by razor thin margins.
And in the game they lost they lost by 2 touch downs.

That defense insures almost any solid team will be in the game with them all game long.

The SEC is getting left out this year and hopefully that spurs enough anger to advance us to an 8/16 game playoff more quickly than anticipated.
The money and interest is certainly there.
We were told there'd NEVER be a playoff not that long ago.

Well, we're getting 4 teams next year but I don't see these controversies going away anytime soon. There will always be team #5 who felt screwed. This year, you'd probably have 2 SEC teams in the final 4, and I don't like the idea of a non-conference winner being in the playoffs - although, we've seen it happen before where a non-conference winner was in the BCS Championship game though.

 

[jterrell]

Hate to let facts get in the way, but there's actually 3 undefeated teams out there, so that argument falls by the wayside.

If Ohio State had Auburn's schedule, they'd be 7-5. I want to enjoy the national championship game, not see another blowout of OSU. Therefore, I want the 2 best teams, not the 2 best records.

Not true.
If OSU had Auburn's schedule they'd probably be 9-2.

Auburn lost by 2 TDs and eeked out a lot of close wins in other games.
Including needing the craziness of ALL those FG misses to beat Bama at home.

Auburn has won win over a top 20 team.
They have CLOSE wins over two other teams ranked 21-25.

OSU has to beat a top 10 team to get through undefeated.

Auburn has to beat a second top 5 team but probably won't IMHO. --I think Missou is an LSU clone and wins handily.

 

[jterrell]

Well, we're getting 4 teams next year but I don't see these controversies going away anytime soon. There will always be team #5 who felt screwed. This year, you'd probably have 2 SEC teams in the final 4, and I don't like the idea of a non-conference winner being in the playoffs - although, we've seen it happen before where a non-conference winner was in the BCS Championship game though.

Yup which is why I think it grows to 8 before we know it.

AQ schools get champions in on automatic bid then 3 from selection committee.

Currently might look like:
1. FSU
2. OhioSU
3. Missou --assume SEC Champ
4. Auburn selection comm
5. Bama selection comm... rematch in round 1!!!!
6. OKST
7. Stanford
8. Baylor

FSU-Baylor
OhioST-Stanford
Missou-OKST
Bama-Auburn

think about how much money those 4 games alone would make???

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I saw bits and pieces of it on Saturday, but I just watched the replay of the game. That's one of the best games I've ever seen, at least as someone who wanted Auburn to win. The last five minutes or so were just insane with the stops, penalties, twists and turns. Just ridiculous!

I'd bet on them to beat any team in the country right now... As long as they didn't spend all their adrenaline on Bama. Think I'm a Malzahn fanboy now, too. Love what he's doing with that offense. And that defense was tough. Other than that 99 yard brainfart they were very physical with Bama at the end of the game, which almost nobody does.

I haven't seen Ohio State play all year so I have no idea how they stack up. Probably would be better if they lost to MSU so it's not even an issue.

For that matter I'm not sure how FSU would stack up against the best, either.

 

[burmafrd]

Not true.
If OSU had Auburn's schedule they'd probably be 9-2.

Auburn lost by 2 TDs and eeked out a lot of close wins in other games.
Including needing the craziness of ALL those FG misses to beat Bama at home.


Auburn has won win over a top 20 team.
They have CLOSE wins over two other teams ranked 21-25.

OSU has to beat a top 10 team to get through undefeated.

Auburn has to beat a second top 5 team but probably won't IMHO. --I think Missou is an LSU clone and wins handily.

Have watched several OSU games; Iowa and Michigan are t wo of them. Auburn would eat OSU's lunch.

 

[trickblue]

I think there is a 50/50 chance he gets charged, but I really believe FSU will exercise their "extraordinary circumstances" clause to decide NOT to suspend him while the charges are pending.

Of COURSE they will...

He could easily be innocent, but their rule is if a player is CHARGED (except if he is too valuable to the team) he is immediately suspended...

 

[jterrell]

Have watched several OSU games; Iowa and Michigan are t wo of them. Auburn would eat OSU's lunch.

No, they wouldnt.

They may well win but OSU (who I detest as a program btw) would score plenty to stay in the game.

Auburn has a fairly terrible defense and OSU can really run and throw the ball.
OSU also has a strong special teams.

Auburn has gotten very lucky a couple times this year and a razor thin margin of a couple miraculous plays from being a 3 loss team.
They are very likely to lose to a great Missou defense.

Now next year Auburn will be insane. But right now they are not really a top 5 team.
They played out of their minds and caught a zillion breaks to win a home game over their biggest rival.
I was pulling for them like crazy. But they weren't really the better team.

 

[burmafrd]

No, they wouldnt.

They may well win but OSU (who I detest as a program btw) would score plenty to stay in the game.

Auburn has a fairly terrible defense and OSU can really run and throw the ball.
OSU also has a strong special teams.

Auburn has gotten very lucky a couple times this year and a razor thin margin of a couple miraculous plays from being a 3 loss team.
They are very likely to lose to a great Missou defense.

Now next year Auburn will be insane. But right now they are not really a top 5 team.
They played out of their minds and caught a zillion breaks to win a home game over their biggest rival.
I was pulling for them like crazy. But they weren't really the better team.

No they were not the better TEAM that day.

But frankly that did not matter. And guess what? They would indeed take OSU apart if they ended up playing this year. OSU is SOFT.

 

[WV Cowboy]

OSU is SOFT

How would you know that? What makes you say that?

They have won 20+ games in a row, have they not?

 

[jterrell]

How would you know that? What makes you say that?

They have won 20+ games in a row, have they not?

The Buckeyes might be my least favorite program in the entire country but they'd score and score a lot versus Auburn.
Auburn was a 3 win team last year.
They've caught every break and wont e game of the century but are woefully overrated.

If OSU plays a top notch team with a really strong defense the game may well not be close.

But OSU/Auburn VERY LIKELY looks like TAMU/Auburn.

 

[Aggie87]

Auburn could have/should have very easily lost the game at A&M earlier this season. A&M was driving for the winning score at the end of the game and Manziel was horse collar tackled on 3rd down on about the 20-30 yard line (or somewhere close to that), with about 20-30 seconds left in the game. Had that been properly called by the zebras, it's 1st down and goal to go, with 4 attempts into the end zone by Manziel/Evans, which very conceivably scores the winning TD.

Instead the horse collar isn't called, it's 4th down, and Manziel gets sacked while scrambling. Game over, Auburn wins.

 

[DFWJC]

OSU's record is better.
Auburn's been winning by razor thin margins.
And in the game they lost they lost by 2 touch downs.

That defense insures almost any solid team will be in the game with them all game long.

The SEC is getting left out this year and hopefully that spurs enough anger to advance us to an 8/16 game playoff more quickly than anticipated.
The money and interest is certainly there.
We were told there'd NEVER be a playoff not that long ago.

The better format would certainly be at least 8 teams. But the new format of 4 teams--if it had begun this year--would have already possibly included two SEC teams, so I'm not sure one being left out of this final two team year will motivate them any further.

 

[burmafrd]

How would you know that? What makes you say that?

They have won 20+ games in a row, have they not?

You can win and still be soft. Expecially since they really have not played much of anyone in those 20 games.

Soft only matters when you run into a physically brutal team. Alabama would have chewed them up and spit them out. I think Auburn can do almost as well.

 

[WV Cowboy]

You can win and still be soft. Expecially since they really have not played much of anyone in those 20 games.

Soft only matters when you run into a physically brutal team. Alabama would have chewed them up and spit them out. I think Auburn can do almost as well.

I can't speak to how tough they are or not because I do not see all that many OSU games, but to win that many games in a row in something as tough as College Football, ... soft would not come to mind.

 

[jterrell]

The better format would certainly be at least 8 teams. But the new format of 4 teams--if it had begun this year--would have already possibly included two SEC teams, so I'm not sure one being left out of this final two team year will motivate them any further.

It has already started the talk and the talk is what gets things moving.

I suspect it is inevitable before long that we see a larger playoff.

I think the perfect number is 12.
4 R1 byes to preserve power of regular season. 12 teams to cover Champ of each AQ plus highly ranked challengers.
Much better chance to see a non-AQ team every year.

This years format if it were a top 12 playoff might go something like this:

1. FSU
2. OSU
3. Missou
4. Bama
5. OkST
6. Auburn
7. Stanford
8. SCAr
9. Baylor
10. ASU
11. Northern Illinois
12. MichST

5 vs 12 winner vs 4
6 vs 11 winner vs 3
7 vs 10 winner vs 2
8 vs 9 winner vs 1

So many awesome match ups.
And end of day no team wins it all without earning it!

 

[visionary]

you guys can hate as much as you want but the reality is that if OSU beats MSU, they will play in the NC game in jan

i say that as someone who did not go to OSU but there is no way you can leapfrog a 1 loss team over an undefeated team from a major conference

i also think that you guys are way underselling urban meyer
this OSU (if they get to the NC game) will come to play hard and will make it a game

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I wished Auburn and tOSU played this year. I think Ohio State would beat them pretty soundly. It would be a rematch of the Utah/Alabama game back in 2009.

Ohio State is 3rd in the Country in Scoring Offense.
Auburn is 17th.
Ohio State is 2nd in the Country in Rushing Offense.
Auburn is 5th.
Ohio State is 85th in the Country in Passing Offense.
Auburn is 107th.
Ohio State is 6th in the Country in Total Offense.
Auburn is 15th.
Ohio State is 18th in the Country in Scoring Defense.
Auburn is 31st.
Ohio State is 5th in the Country in Rushing Defense.
Auburn is 57th.
Ohio State is 101st in the Country in Pass Defense.
Auburn is 100th.
Ohio State is 30th in the Country in Total Defense.
Auburn is 76th.

In almost every area, Ohio State is better then Auburn. Now, some may say that it's because the SEC is so much better then the Big 10 is but is it really all that much better?

 

[Rogah]

The Buckeyes might be my least favorite program in the entire country but they'd score and score a lot versus Auburn.
Auburn was a 3 win team last year.
They've caught every break and wont e game of the century but are woefully overrated.

If OSU plays a top notch team with a really strong defense the game may well not be close.

But OSU/Auburn VERY LIKELY looks like TAMU/Auburn.

Yes Auburn caught a lot of breaks - although in the Georgia game people overlook how badly they got screwed on a touchdown given to Georgia where the QB was clearly down before the ball crossed the goal line. That miracle finish never should have even been necessary. OSU got some breaks too. They were 3 yards away from losing to sad-sack unranked Michigan.

I have no doubt the folks in Tallahassee are rooting very hard for OSU this Saturday. They sure as heck would much rather play them than Auburn.