Twitter: Based on QBR. Dak has a argument to be top paid at his position

[USArmyVet]

QBR is considered one of the best ways to gauge how good or bad a QB is. As you can see, it filters out the Jameis Winston's of the world. Based on 2019......the argument for Dak and his team isn't nearly as outrageous as many would like for you to think.

So in 2019 Drew Brees had a QBR of 71.7, only slightly ahead of Dak at 70.2 so according to your logic Drew Brees is only slightly better than Dak Prescott and Dak Prescott is better than Russell Wilson (69.8), Matthew Stafford (69.6), Deshaun Watson (68.7), Carson Wentz (60.8), Tom Brady (53.7), and Aaron Rodgers (50.4)???? Sorry man but stop cherry picking.

Funny how you didn;t use 2018 stats when Dak's QBR was 55.2 and had him ranked 17th in the NFL.

Oh, and in 2017 Case Keenum was the 2nd ranked QB based on QBR but in 2019 he was a back-up QB and compiled a 1-7 record as a starter for the Commanders.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So in 2019 Drew Brees had a QBR of 71.7, only slightly ahead of Dak at 70.2 so according to your logic Drew Brees is only slightly better than Dak Prescott and Dak Prescott is better than Russell Wilson (69.8), Matthew Stafford (69.6), Deshaun Watson (68.7), Carson Wentz (60.8), Tom Brady (53.7), and Aaron Rodgers (50.4)???? Sorry man but stop cherry picking.

Funny how you didn;t use 2018 stats when Dak's QBR was 55.2 and had him ranked 17th in the NFL.

Oh, and in 2017 Case Keenum was the 2nd ranked QB based on QBR but in 2019 he was a back-up QB and compiled a 1-7 record as a starter for the Commanders.

I didn't use ANYTHING. This is ESPN's. Is what he did in 2018 more relevant than 2019?

Case Keenum had a good year in 2017 what's your point?

This isn't ranking players based on skill. QBR is based on the season you had and yes Dak had a better season than Tom Brady last year. I don't know what's hard for you to realize?

 

[HungryLion]

Best way to gauge how good or bad a QB is: team record and the ability to lead a team deep into the playoffs.

No, that’s not the best way to gauge a QB at all.

Even then, the team has also made the divisional round of the playoffs 2 out of 4 years Dak has been starting. Both games In The divisional round were close and the team was a play or two from
Making a NFC conference game.

It’s not great but it’s certainly not terrible either.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Be careful the Dak-Zoids live amongst us....

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well,

Wilson has a Super Bowl Win
Roethlisberger has two Super Bowl Wins
Rodgers has a Super Bowl Win
Wentz has a Super Bowl Win


That leaves Ryan, Cousins, Goff and Dak.

Ryan played in a Super Bowl and was the League MVP.
Goff played in a Super Bowl.
Cousins has neither won a Super Bowl, played in a Super Bowl or won an MVP.

So I guess you can look at those three contracts and try to apply those numbers.

Ryan's contract looks like this: Matt Ryan signed a 5 year, $150,000,000 contract with the Atlanta Falcons, including a $46,500,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $30,000,000. In 2020, Ryan will earn a base salary of $1,050,000 and a restructure bonus of $19,450,000, while carrying a cap hit of $18,962,500 and a dead cap value of $75,850,000.

Goff's contract looks like this: Jared Goff signed a 4 year, $134,000,000 contract with the Los Angeles Rams, including a $25,000,000 signing bonus, $110,042,682 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $33,500,000. In 2020, Goff will earn a base salary of $1,242,682, a roster bonus of $21,000,000 and a restructure bonus of $8,800,000, while carrying a cap hit of $29,002,682 and a dead cap value of $51,042,682.

Kirk Cousins' contract looks like this: Kirk Cousins signed a 2 year, $66,000,000 contract with the Minnesota Vikings, including a $30,000,000 signing bonus, $66,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $33,000,000. In 2020, Cousins will earn a base salary of $9,500,000, a signing bonus of $30,000,000 and a workout bonus of $500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $21,000,000 and a dead cap value of $62,000,000.

So I suppose Dak's next contract should be in line with these three deals. I mean, lots of metrics we can look at to try and justify a contract right? End of day, the reason we pay for the NFL, the reason Jerry pays players, the reason the game exists is to win championships so what better criteria then that?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Best way to gauge how good or bad a QB is: team record and the ability to lead a team deep into the playoffs.

That's just about the worst way to do it. Can't believe this was said without sarcasm lmao.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well,

Wilson has a Super Bowl Win
Roethlisberger has two Super Bowl Wins
Rodgers has a Super Bowl Win
Wentz has a Super Bowl Win


That leaves Ryan, Cousins, Goff and Dak.

Ryan played in a Super Bowl and was the League MVP.
Goff played in a Super Bowl.
Cousins has neither won a Super Bowl, played in a Super Bowl or won an MVP.

So I guess you can look at those three contracts and try to apply those numbers.

Ryan's contract looks like this: Matt Ryan signed a 5 year, $150,000,000 contract with the Atlanta Falcons, including a $46,500,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $30,000,000. In 2020, Ryan will earn a base salary of $1,050,000 and a restructure bonus of $19,450,000, while carrying a cap hit of $18,962,500 and a dead cap value of $75,850,000.

Goff's contract looks like this: Jared Goff signed a 4 year, $134,000,000 contract with the Los Angeles Rams, including a $25,000,000 signing bonus, $110,042,682 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $33,500,000. In 2020, Goff will earn a base salary of $1,242,682, a roster bonus of $21,000,000 and a restructure bonus of $8,800,000, while carrying a cap hit of $29,002,682 and a dead cap value of $51,042,682.

Kirk Cousins' contract looks like this: Kirk Cousins signed a 2 year, $66,000,000 contract with the Minnesota Vikings, including a $30,000,000 signing bonus, $66,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $33,000,000. In 2020, Cousins will earn a base salary of $9,500,000, a signing bonus of $30,000,000 and a workout bonus of $500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $21,000,000 and a dead cap value of $62,000,000.

So I suppose Dak's next contract should be in line with these three deals. I mean, lots of metrics we can look at to try and justify a contract right? End of day, the reason we pay for the NFL, the reason Jerry pays players, the reason the game exists is to win championships so what better criteria then that?

I know you are trying to slide this post in as if its factual but it is not.

Steelers won the Super Bowl not Big Ben.
Sehawks won a Super Bowl and not Russ.
Rodgers did win a Super Bowl. A big contributor in that. Fair point.
Carson Wentz hasn't even played in a full playoff game yet so when did he win a Super Bowl?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

So in 2019 Drew Brees had a QBR of 71.7, only slightly ahead of Dak at 70.2 so according to your logic Drew Brees is only slightly better than Dak Prescott and Dak Prescott is better than Russell Wilson (69.8), Matthew Stafford (69.6), Deshaun Watson (68.7), Carson Wentz (60.8), Tom Brady (53.7), and Aaron Rodgers (50.4)???? Sorry man but stop cherry picking.

Funny how you didn;t use 2018 stats when Dak's QBR was 55.2 and had him ranked 17th in the NFL.

Oh, and in 2017 Case Keenum was the 2nd ranked QB based on QBR but in 2019 he was a back-up QB and compiled a 1-7 record as a starter for the Commanders.

1. Yes Dak was better than Brady, Rodgers, Wentz, and Stafford wth are you talking about?

2. Funny how you only used 2018 QBR, since he was 4th in QBR in 2017, 3rd in 2016. You want to talk about cherry picking LMAOOOOOO.
Ahh your Case Keenum comment shows that you went to 2017 QBR stats, but didn't actually post Dak. Hahahha you're embarrassing yourself

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That's just about the worst way to do it. Can't believe this was said without sarcasm lmao.

I figured he was trolling or being sarcastic. Couldn't tell.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I know you are trying to slide this post in as if its factual but it is not.

Steelers won the Super Bowl not Big Ben.
Sehawks won a Super Bowl and not Russ.
Rodgers did win a Super Bowl. A big contributor in that. Fair point.
Carson Wentz hasn't even played in a full playoff game yet so when did he win a Super Bowl?

I'm not "trying" to do anything. I just did it and everything I posted is factual. If, in fact, your message were true, then every player on any of those teams would be getting paid equally. There is no equity, in terms of how players get paid so there is no point to your post.

Those are inconvenient facts, I know. But none the less, true.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Well,

Wilson has a Super Bowl Win
Roethlisberger has two Super Bowl Wins
Rodgers has a Super Bowl Win
Wentz has a Super Bowl Win


That leaves Ryan, Cousins, Goff and Dak.

Ryan played in a Super Bowl and was the League MVP.
Goff played in a Super Bowl.
Cousins has neither won a Super Bowl, played in a Super Bowl or won an MVP.

So I guess you can look at those three contracts and try to apply those numbers.

Ryan's contract looks like this: Matt Ryan signed a 5 year, $150,000,000 contract with the Atlanta Falcons, including a $46,500,000 signing bonus, $100,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $30,000,000. In 2020, Ryan will earn a base salary of $1,050,000 and a restructure bonus of $19,450,000, while carrying a cap hit of $18,962,500 and a dead cap value of $75,850,000.

Goff's contract looks like this: Jared Goff signed a 4 year, $134,000,000 contract with the Los Angeles Rams, including a $25,000,000 signing bonus, $110,042,682 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $33,500,000. In 2020, Goff will earn a base salary of $1,242,682, a roster bonus of $21,000,000 and a restructure bonus of $8,800,000, while carrying a cap hit of $29,002,682 and a dead cap value of $51,042,682.

Kirk Cousins' contract looks like this: Kirk Cousins signed a 2 year, $66,000,000 contract with the Minnesota Vikings, including a $30,000,000 signing bonus, $66,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $33,000,000. In 2020, Cousins will earn a base salary of $9,500,000, a signing bonus of $30,000,000 and a workout bonus of $500,000, while carrying a cap hit of $21,000,000 and a dead cap value of $62,000,000.

So I suppose Dak's next contract should be in line with these three deals. I mean, lots of metrics we can look at to try and justify a contract right? End of day, the reason we pay for the NFL, the reason Jerry pays players, the reason the game exists is to win championships so what better criteria then that?

Not being able to differentiate between a player's contributions and team success is a real telltale sign of a person's inability to understand football.

And did you really just say Wentz won a Super Bowl? Jesus christ these Dak Detractors are so bad.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm not "trying" to do anything. I just did it and everything I posted is factual. If, in fact, your message were true, then every player on any of those teams would be getting paid equally. There is no equity, in terms of how players get paid so there is no point to your post.

Those are inconvenient facts, I know. But none the less, true.

Facts are the Quarterback gets paid higher than anyone. What does them not getting paid equally even mean? How is that your defense? So because Ryan Tannehill gets paid more than Derrick Henry that means he's more important?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

I'm not "trying" to do anything. I just did it and everything I posted is factual. If, in fact, your message were true, then every player on any of those teams would be getting paid equally. There is no equity, in terms of how players get paid so there is no point to your post.

Those are inconvenient facts, I know. But none the less, true.

It seems pretty apparant you don't know the definition of a "fact". Yikes.

 

[StuckMojo]

I didn't use ANYTHING. This is ESPN's. Is what he did in 2018 more relevant than 2019?

Case Keenum had a good year in 2017 what's your point?

This isn't ranking players based on skill. QBR is based on the season you had and yes Dak had a better season than Tom Brady last year. I don't know what's hard for you to realize?

I would have liked to seen Brady with our receivers and RBs last year.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

I would have liked to seen Brady with our receivers and RBs last year.

Would have been a downgrade. Also a RB doesn't help QBR or QB play in general.

 

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[GMO415]

$31? He got paid $2. He hasn't signed anything saying he's getting paid $31.

 

[JoeKing]

Best way to gauge how good or bad a QB is: team record and the ability to lead a team deep into the playoffs.

Your dull crayon quality is showing again.

 

[JoeKing]

Based way to gauge how good or bad a QUARTERBACK is TEAM record? KEYWORD TEAM? Really? So why do they call it team record? Maybe we should call it individual record.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Facts are the Quarterback gets paid higher than anyone. What does them not getting paid equally even mean? How is that your defense? So because Ryan Tannehill gets paid more than Derrick Henry that means he's more important?

According to who? I mean, if you can use QBR as the primary justification for why a player can be paid, why can't you use actual wins, which is what this game is about? I mean, I know your trying to slide the goal posts here, as if it's factual but, we don't watch the NFL to see who wins the QBR title. We tune in, go to games, buy merchandise because we want to win a championship. That's the whole point of the game.

If you were really all about team, then you would not have a problem with using those three players contracts as frame work for Dak. After all, it would free up more money to compensate the Henry's of the world and/or, allow for teams to bring in more talent that would ultimately improve the talent levels of any given team. Do you not see how hollow this presents? The "Team" won those championships but QBR shows that Dak deserves to be paid, not only as well, not only better, but ridiculously better then the best QBs in the NFL. No, I don't think so. Tell that story walking because there is no honesty in that approach.

QBR, who says that's the best measuring stick? The justification for Dak started around the idea that his intangibles were the primary factor around Dak and the justification for why he deserved to be the starter, get paid, all the rest. That was the key, until that is, a favorable stat was found. One that happened, it's now QBR. Really?

Not everybody believes that QBR is the primary measure for QBs. In fact, many believe that it's extremely flawed. The very language of the original post is a misnomer because it introduces the idea that QBR is the primary factor. Well, that's just not the case. So why can't I introduce the idea that actual winning should be the primary reason? Why is that out of bounds? Let me help you here, it's not. It's just not something that you, apparently, like. That's it, no other reason.

That's a hard fail. Moving on.