Battlefield 3

[Hoofbite]

I realize it's a beta but who plays the games before it gets to beta?

I mean, were these problems not there or are they problems that they can readily address so they don't worry about them and press forward, correct the greater issues and then tidy up the rest just before release?

When sprinting full speed and diving to prone, you can still pull the trigger and fire straight ahead accurately yet your gun is pointing 90 degrees to the left because the prone animation makes it face that way.

This will be the most frustrating thing ever, just like in COD if they leave it as is. People who run around, dive to their belly and are able to still accurately fire. I don't know why anyone thinks that is a good aspect of the game. I guess the makers of COD want to allow the better players to distinguish themselves from the average by being able to master these little cheesy tactics.

Since they've already nerfed the game to the point of being pitifully easy, they leave these little stupid things in there to be great separators between good and bad.

That's another thing I don't like about COD. The game is more about compounding perks and staying alive by any means necessary just long enough to use the big killstreaks. Why is gun-on-gun skill a secondary determining factor in COD?

I think this is why I like the BF series as much as I do. I really wish I would have gotten into BC2 a lot earlier than I did. Gun-on-gun counts for far more in this game than it does any other.

Halo used to be gun-on-gun. Halo 2 was perfect because a skilled player could separate himself just based on his ability. Not anymore, Halo has gone the direction of COD with all these default perks and weapon re-spawn changes. When you had the sniper in Halo 2, it wasn't coming back and the only way they could get it from you was to pry it from your cold dead hands. Now, they're timed and they pop up all the time.

Battlefield is one of the lone survivors in terms of gun-game ability. I really hope they don't start incorporating cheesy drop-shotting tactics and other COD/HALO aspects into their game. I was in a lobby last night on BC2 and we were running roughshod over people because we were better then they were. There were no great equalizers like care package chopper gunners, being undetectable on the map and kill cams.

The game is playing great. I really like it. I talked to a buddy who said he didn't want to play the beta because the flaws that come up might turn him off of the game. Not me. I love the fact that there is a public beta so they can address issues before release.

I think the game has the potential to be very, very good if they address the flaws. I have confidence that they will. This might be the only EA title to actually be supported to an acceptable standard. As I said earlier, I've gotten a "cannot connect" notice every time I have played NCAA. Burnout was very good until they started making you pay for everything that was initially given to you.

Once the bugs are worked out, I think this game will be top notch. Fix the prone-shooting problem, fix the intermittent button failure problem and keep me from falling through the map.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Downloaded and played two battles. Definitely a little different feel from BFBC2. Some changes to controls too. I hate that I can't get the keyboard configuration while in the game.

Has I said I didn't get to play much, but im sure I am going to be happy with it. A few things have to be fixed, but im sure they will take care of it. All the BF games are kick ***.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

So far, does it play like Bad Company 2? Or more like Battlefield 2 for the PC?

It's hard to tell because the only thing we get to play is the rush map with no vehicles right now, but so far I'm leaning toward it feeling more like Battlefield 2 than BC2, which is exactly what I was hoping for.

 

[DIAF]

It's definitely more Battlefield 2 in feel. Metro doesn't feel like battlefield, but the Caspian Border map that was up briefly on thurs definitely was.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Damn thing was down last night. I ended up just cranking up BFBC2 and played that for a bit.

 

[Teren_Kanan]

It's hard to tell because the only thing we get to play is the rush map with no vehicles right now, but so far I'm leaning toward it feeling more like Battlefield 2 than BC2, which is exactly what I was hoping for.

Good stuff

I can't get the beta to install on my computer. Origin won't install it, just says "click to install" and I click it and it starts to load, then goes back to "click to install"

Sigh. Oh well it's out soon.

 

[casmith07]

The console beta looks like absolute trash. The controls don't feel as tight as Bad Company 2's, either.

DICE locked the texture quality for the console versions on purpose for the beta, though...they did the same thing during the closed beta for Bad Company 2 ( i participated in that one as well) and I thought the game was going to suck.

I'm 100% positive that the final build will be sensational given that history, but that doesn't help me now.

The PC beta, however, is fantastic. It's got some bugs but for the most part it looks MUCH better and the Caspian Border map that is available (if you have the passwords) looks amazing on high detail.

Yeah, it's a beta.

But I am pretty much done with competitive multiplayer. It's just not fun because I don't have the time to compete with people that sit in their mom's basement and play for 12 hours a day.

I'll get it for the campaign though. I heard it has a co-op campaign?

I do love that you can lay in the prone now.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Yeah, it's a beta.

But I am pretty much done with competitive multiplayer. It's just not fun because I don't have the time to compete with people that sit in their mom's basement and play for 12 hours a day.

I'll get it for the campaign though. I heard it has a co-op campaign?

I do love that you can lay in the prone now.

I get my tail handed to me often too. Though when I occasionally finish a round with more kills than deaths (say 12-10) I feel great! I never get 25 kill counts anymore.

 

[DIAF]

I am sick and tired of being the only person in any game I get in that plays defense.

I am literally the only one throwing myself at armed MCOMS in 80% of the games I play.

 

[StevenOtero]

I am sick and tired of being the only person in any game I get in that plays defense.

I am literally the only one throwing myself at armed MCOMS in 80% of the games I play.

Hit me up on there, I'll help ya. Gamer Tag in the sig. (Hopefully you play 360)

Anyone else on 360 hit me up on there too!

 

[pupulehaole]

I'm a beast in this Beta lol. And for ppl complaining about the MANY glitches just realize that this build is over a month old per the developers. But yah if anyone wants to get in a squad hit me up. I'm constantly top 3 on my team. 2.0 KD and arming/defending bomb sites.gamertag is my name on here.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Awesome. I'm always bottom three. Though, not always negative in kill / death ratio. I see people with far more kills than me, but upside down in the ratio.

One thing I have noticed is big time camping areas in Operation Metro. They REALLY need to fix that. Once in there with at least two people, it's almost impossible to pry them out. Every time people get in there they have 3x as many kills as anyone else and maybe 3-5 deaths. It completely makes the map suck.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I've played it a bit and I enjoy it. There are some issues I have with it but over all I think I'm going to love the game.

With Battlefield games, way more so than CoD games, I think you have to learn to not get frusturated over the getting killed lots of times cause that's simply going to happen. But with all the other cool stuff you can do for building up points and such it's a great deal of fun.

What I've seen from the Beta is that the guns seem pretty good, pretty balanced, and it does appear that it doesn't take nearly as many bullets, no matter what gun you're using, to kill someone as it sometimes does on BF:BC2.

But two things stick out, gun wise, that I think are still a problem that were also a problem in Bad Company 2.

The shotguns and the PP-2000 still seem insanely overpowered.

Now don't get me wrong the shotguns should be quick drops up close, without a doubt, but I'm talking about shooting from one end of a building to another and dropping someone in a shot or two. Just seems to be way too over powered there to me.

 

[StevenOtero]

Top 10 Battlefield 3 Open Beta issues and how we are addressing them

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/10/06/246-dfj-246-dfj.aspx

We’re more than half way through the open beta and thrilled to see so many people still enjoying the game while continuing to give us great feedback. As part of our dedication to showing you how your feedback is directly affecting and improving Battlefield 3, here are the latest Top-Ten Community Issues that we’re addressing.

1. Squad issues: Cannot play with friends within same squad, squads get split up onto opposite teams, etc.
There will be improved squad functionality in the retail game (including but not limited to): the ability to create squads prior to launching into a game, sticking with your squad when joining a game and continuing together through future games (If team balance on the server allows it), inviting friends to a squad and changing squads once in game.


2. Regarding additional Open Beta content and fixes/patches for consoles, including PlayStation 3 issues with chat and party systems
While we would like to patch the Open Beta, DICE is currently focusing its available resources on polishing the retail game.


3. Will DICE have enough time to iron out everything by release?
Please see General Manager Karl Magnus Troedsson's blog post regarding this question.


4. Can we have ability to change settings/options before deployment into match on PC?
The ability to modify your settings via the deploy screen has been added into the retail game.


5. Issues with terrain stability and “falling into the map” on Operation Métro
This has been fixed for the beta via a server side update.


6. Kill cam sometimes zooms out too far or outside the map
This has been fixed for the launch of the retail game.


7. A bug that sometimes keeps some players from being able to sprint
This has been fixed for the launch of the retail game.


8. Screen flickering/stuttering. Blue screen remains after respawn. Game locks up after deploying C4 (360)
This has been fixed for the launch of the retail game.


9. Downed bodies appear to be dead, but are not
The DICE team has been looking into this issue – which is caused by a combination of incidents in a confined area - and are working hard to address the issue for the launch of the retail game.


10. Why is the hit detection seemingly different from Battlefield: Bad Company 2?
The netcode is one of the many things that we are testing as part of the Open Beta and is not necessarily reflective of the final retail game. The DICE team appreciates and has heard the feedback you’ve provided and is further optimizing online play.

 

[YosemiteSam]

What about how much of a pain in the *** it is to join games using that stupid Origin crap.

The fact that it's web based server browser sucks too.

Where is the ping times in game?

I'm not sure I'm going to buy it out of the gate now. I'm not completely happy with a lot of what they've changed on this one. I might just pick up Rage instead.

 

[DIAF]

What about how much of a pain in the *** it is to join games using that stupid Origin crap.

The fact that it's web based server browser sucks too.

Where is the ping times in game?

I'm not sure I'm going to buy it out of the gate now. I'm not completely happy with a lot of what they've changed on this one. I might just pick up Rage instead.

Youd better not. All the reviews of Rage say its too short, gameplay sucks, enemies suck, weapons suck, basically the only thing that gets praised are the visuals. Which are apparently stunning.

 

[JohnnyTheFox]

What about how much of a pain in the *** it is to join games using that stupid Origin crap.

The fact that it's web based server browser sucks too.

Where is the ping times in game?

I'm not sure I'm going to buy it out of the gate now. I'm not completely happy with a lot of what they've changed on this one. I might just pick up Rage instead.

Id hold off on RAGE as some of the reviews ive seen are not favorable.
Just wait another month and get Skyrim if you like RPGs.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Id hold off on RAGE as some of the reviews ive seen are not favorable.
Just wait another month and get Skyrim if you like RPGs.

Bethesda and ID Software made Rage. (Bethesda makes Elder Scrolls) Sounds like a winning combo to me.

I'm sure like many reviewers are being idiots. Remember how many people cussed out Quake3? One of the best FPS arena games on the planet.

Bethesda makes some of the best single player games on the planet.

My biggest issues with Rage is the $60 price tag. That's $10 too high. While $10 isn't much, there is a point here. If I allow you to suck an extra $10 out of me, next time it's $20.

I've never paid more than $50 for a game that I (myself) was the only person playing.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Well, I broke down and pre-ordered BF3. I was thinking about waiting until after it came out to see how things stood with reviews. There were several things I didn't like about the beta, but *most* of the stuff DICE commented saying that "that" won't be like that in the actual game. Only in the beta.

What changed my mind is this. All the BF games rock so chances are I would end up getting it anyhow. Combine that with the fact that they are giving away the Physical Warfare Pack, Battlefield Play4Free Items, and the Back to Karkand Expansion Pack for free to those that pre-order.

The game will be released Oct. 25th. (which happens to be the day I get older) So if you are definitely going to get it, I would pre-order it. They said you can pre-download it too starting on Oct. 21st.

Good luck....except when I'm shooting at you!

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I have it on pre-ordered but I'm seriously thinking about going this week and canceling it and using that money on NCAA 12 or Madden 12 or Rage or something else.


I became EXTREMELY frusturated during the beta with people killing me from so far across the map you couldn't even see anything in the direction they were shooting from but fuzzy graphics.

Now I'm not talking about a sniper laying in some bushes either. I'm talking about a guy using a PP2000, standing right out in the wide open, and some how they're able to see clear across the map and kill me.

I don't understand (and I know about the bigger and better TVs but I've played on bigger and better TVs and even they don't make enough of a difference from the distances I'm talking about here) how I can be looking right in the direction that bullets wind up coming from, and there is absolutely nothing out there that looks anything like a player on the other team and yet they some how, from that same distance, see me clearly enough to get shots on me with an assualt rifle to drop me in 2-3 shots.

I love Bad Company 2 but it gets frusturating enough with people being able to do that to you with their sniper rifles so I'm just not sure that I'm interested in dealing with people being able to do that with any gun they want to, even with guns that have no scopes on them.



Edit: And this doesn't even factor in the frustration that will absolutely be added once everyone and their cousin are out there using vehicles over and over and over and over. Which you sort of overlook as part of what makes BF different but when you've now got to factor in this kind of crap from the guns....eh...not sure I'm going to want to deal with that.