Be Careful What You Wish For

[Real1st]

You're a blind TO hater.

TO has said, and it has been proven time and time again throughout his illustrious career, that when he gets his "numbers", the "championships follow."

FACT!

Boy his championship sure is shiny.

 

[sonnyboy]

Sure thing man. Whatever you say.

You need to listen and read everything ware says, witten says, romo says, jay ratliff says........

Your right. He is the greatest, regardless of qb or team.

So I really hope he goes to oakland and puts them back on the map. I mean he is so incredible, there is no way they would ever lose.

And all this talk about work ethic, There is sufficient evidence that he doesnt do the work in the classroom m-s. That shows up every week when he doesnt no where to lineup, which routes to run and in turn ad libs and causes mistakes that other people get blamed for.

Think whatever you want, I could careless. The fans of T.O. on this website have proven they seem to know everything about owens and what he does and very little about the rest of the team and what kinds of teams win.

So please Keep telling us how you are going to be right here when owens is gone. I for one, think the team and the qb will get better.

Would you care to compare Owens to Burress?

Here's why it's relevant. The single most used rational on this site for dumping Owens is that you can't have a "TEAM" with him.

Burress is more of an "isssue" than Owens. His team managed to win a SB in 2007. His team suffered dou to his abscence in 2008.

The Giants are bring him back! And he's not as good a player as Owens.


What you need to realize is that Owens is not our problem. This team had/has problems.

Releasing Owens does not solve them. It's a quickfix/shortcut to nowhere!

This team needs more discipline and improved work ethic. This has to start with the coaching staff. They have to pull it off.

Either they will or won't and Owens' presence will not factor in.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Boy his championship sure is shiny.

Exactly.

We are a 1-15 team without Owens.

 

[TheSport78]

He was late for meetings and missed several team functions.

Twice the thug Owens is.

But the Giants had a tough enough head coach and strong LEADERSHIP in the locker room from players like Eli Manning, Antonio Pierce and Michael Strahan to keep Burress in check; something the Cowboys obviously don't have.

 

[TheSport78]

Would you care to compare Owens to Burress?

Here's why it's relevant. The single most used rational on this site for dumping Owens is that you can't have a "TEAM" with him.

Burress is more of an "isssue" than Owens. His team managed to win a SB in 2007. His team suffered dou to his abscence in 2008.

The Giants are bring him back! And he's not as good a player as Owens.


What you need to realize is that Owens is not our problem. This team had/has problems.

Releasing Owens does not solve them. It's a quickfix/shortcut to nowhere!

This team needs more discipline and improved work ethic. This has to start with the coaching staff. They have to pull it off.

Either they will or won't and Owens' presence will not factor in.

I'll take Burress over Owens on the field at this point. Owens is a declining player and it's easy to see.

 

[Doomsday101]

But the Giants had a tough enough head coach and strong LEADERSHIP in the locker room from players like Eli Manning, Antonio Pierce and Michael Strahan to keep Burress in check; something the Cowboys obviously don't have.

Going into the SB season there was many question about their leadership both in the club house and sideline. They go out and end up winning it all then all of a sudden that is not an issue any longer.

 

[Real1st]

Exactly.

We are a 1-15 team without Owens.

Funniest thing i have heard in a while.


Last i checked we were 9-7 twice with Owens.

Still haven't won a playoff game with OWENS.

Blah we will continue this debate. I have to go shower.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Would you care to compare Owens to Burress?

Here's why it's relevant. The single most used rational on this site for dumping Owens is that you can't have a "TEAM" with him.

Burress is more of an "isssue" than Owens. His team managed to win a SB in 2007. His team suffered dou to his abscence in 2008.

The Giants are bring him back! And he's not as good a player as Owens.


What you need to realize is that Owens is not our problem. This team had/has problems.

Releasing Owens does not solve them. It's a quickfix/shortcut to nowhere!

This team needs more discipline and improved work ethic. This has to start with the coaching staff. They have to pull it off.

Either they will or won't and Owens' presence will not factor in.

The Steelers didn't win a Championship until the year after Plaxico left.

 

[SDogo]

Sure thing man. Whatever you say.

You need to listen and read everything ware says, witten says, romo says, jay ratliff says........

Your right. He is the greatest, regardless of qb or team.

So I really hope he goes to oakland and puts them back on the map. I mean he is so incredible, there is no way they would ever lose.

And all this talk about work ethic, There is sufficient evidence that he doesnt do the work in the classroom m-s. That shows up every week when he doesnt no where to lineup, which routes to run and in turn ad libs and causes mistakes that other people get blamed for.

Think whatever you want, I could careless. The fans of T.O. on this website have proven they seem to know everything about owens and what he does and very little about the rest of the team and what kinds of teams win.

So please Keep telling us how you are going to be right here when owens is gone. I for one, think the team and the qb will get better.

It has to be all the SuperBowl rings he has won. I mean he has proven to be a winner no matter where he goes and titles are sure to follow.......oh wait, it's not the titles that follow him around

 

[TheSport78]

Going into the SB season there was many question about their leadership both in the club house and sideline. They go out and end up winning it all then all of a sudden that is not an issue any longer.

That's what happens when you WIN. You want players on your team that will stick together as a team through the good times and the bad times. Romo and Witten fall into that category.

Owens falls into that other category, where he's not a problem unless the team isn't winning, then he blames the scheme, offensive coordinator, quarterback, etc. Owens is simply not a team player.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Funniest thing i have heard in a while.


Last i checked we were 9-7 twice with Owens.

Still haven't won a playoff game with OWENS.

Blah we will continue this debate. I have to go shower.

We were 9-7, but it was the greatest 9-7 we had ever seen.

Those 9-7 teams would maul the 1992 team.

Why? Because those mid-90 teams didn't have Owens.

I swear that if Romo dropped back to pass, and threw the ball to Owens each and every offensive snap, this team would EASILY finish 22-0. The three extra wins would be awarded to us by virtue of our (read: Owens) absolute awesomeness!

These are cold hard facts that you blind Owens haters just don't want to admit.

You're alive today because Owens is keeping you alive. He's THAT good.

 

[theebs]

Would you care to compare Owens to Burress?

Here's why it's relevant. The single most used rational on this site for dumping Owens is that you can't have a "TEAM" with him.

Burress is more of an "isssue" than Owens. His team managed to win a SB in 2007. His team suffered dou to his abscence in 2008.

The Giants are bring him back! And he's not as good a player as Owens.


What you need to realize is that Owens is not our problem. This team had/has problems.

Releasing Owens does not solve them. It's a quickfix/shortcut to nowhere!

This team needs more discipline and improved work ethic. This has to start with the coaching staff. They have to pull it off.

Either they will or won't and Owens' presence will not factor in.

spare me. IF you cant see it, there is no need in talking about it.

You want to know what the difference between owens and burress is.

there are a couple of things.

A. Owens is the exact same person in meetings and off the field. He sleeps through meetings, he is late and from watching the games you can tell he doesnt prepare properly, he is always being told where to lineup by the qb.

Now I never see burress needing to be told where to lineup, but he is the same lazy classroom guy. He has the same belief of my talent will just do for me what I need on game day. He is late to meetings and he sleeps through meetings.

Now why is it an issue in ny and down here in Dallas it gets treated like something no one can talk about.

The reason is flat out, Tom Coughlin and Jerry and wade. Coughlin is tired of fining him and having him do what he wants. They have structure and discipline there, coughlin carries out the rules.

Here we have Jerry and the yes man. The yes man takes owens side and says we need to get him the ball because the owner tells him to. The owner empowers the wr here because he thinks he cant win without him. He doesnt have enough faith in his other players.

Owens has been more of a distraction in Dallas than burress has in NY.

And another thing about the two, burress went and made tough catches in the post season, he fights for the ball and he did everything he could to win.

I wouldnt want either on my team. There is a reason guys in the giants locker room were speaking out about burress, because they are tired of seeing a guy half-butt it knowing that is not how you get things done.

Here, instead of someone standing up to owens, other players decide to act like him and you get a locker room like we have.

laufenberg said it best. He burns your house down, then calls the fire department and says thank god you guys came.

 

[sonnyboy]

But the Giants had a tough enough head coach and strong LEADERSHIP in the locker room from players like Eli Manning, Antonio Pierce and Michael Strahan to keep Burress in check; something the Cowboys obviously don't have.

So what are you saying? Since our team lacks this, that we should get rid of one of our best players?

HOW.......DOES.........THAT .........SOLVE ........THE ..........PROBLEM?

 

[TheSport78]

So what are you saying? Since our team lacks this, that we should get rid of one of our best players?

HOW.......DOES.........THAT .........SOLVE ........THE ..........PROBLEM?

That absolutely makes no sense. So you're saying T.O. is such a great leader that we should keep him on the team? What are you exactly trying to say?? T.O. IS THE PROBLEM

 

[SDogo]

So what are you saying? Since our team lacks this, that we should get rid of one of our best players?

HOW.......DOES.........THAT .........SOLVE ........THE ..........PROBLEM?

You have lung cancer but it can be treated, should you keep smoking or quit?

 

[sonnyboy]

spare me. IF you cant see it, there is no need in talking about it.

You want to know what the difference between owens and burress is.

there are a couple of things.

A. Owens is the exact same person in meetings and off the field. He sleeps through meetings, he is late and from watching the games you can tell he doesnt prepare properly, he is always being told where to lineup by the qb.

Now I never see burress needing to be told where to lineup, but he is the same lazy classroom guy. He has the same belief of my talent will just do for me what I need on game day. He is late to meetings and he sleeps through meetings.

Now why is it an issue in ny and down here in Dallas it gets treated like something no one can talk about.

The reason is flat out, Tom Coughlin and Jerry and wade. Coughlin is tired of fining him and having him do what he wants. They have structure and discipline there, coughlin carries out the rules.

Here we have Jerry and the yes man. The yes man takes owens side and says we need to get him the ball because the owner tells him to. The owner empowers the wr here because he thinks he cant win without him. He doesnt have enough faith in his other players.

Owens has been more of a distraction in Dallas than burress has in NY.

And another thing about the two, burress went and made tough catches in the post season, he fights for the ball and he did everything he could to win.

I wouldnt want either on my team. There is a reason guys in the giants locker room were speaking out about burress, because they are tired of seeing a guy half-butt it knowing that is not how you get things done.

Here, instead of someone standing up to owens, other players decide to act like him and you get a locker room like we have.

laufenberg said it best. He burns your house down, then calls the fire department and says thank god you guys came.

This may just be the single dumbest thing I've read on this board.

 

[Doomsday101]

That's what happens when you WIN. You want players on your team that will stick together as a team through the good times and the bad times. Romo and Witten fall into that category.

Owens falls into that other category, where he's not a problem unless the team isn't winning, then he blames the scheme, offensive coordinator, quarterback, etc. Owens is simply not a team player.

I tend to agree, it is easy to be a good teammate when things are going good and you see the true colors when things go bad. This is the problem I had with getting Owens in the 1st place but was scoffed at for saying the truth. He is now on this team and I do consider him an important part of the offense. Right now it really is up to the organization and staff in whether they feel they can work with him or not. I'm not going to go by what the media has to say they are not in the loop of what is actually going on.

If Owen returns I expect him to go out and do his job if he is not with us the Dallas will have to make some changes within the offense such as gearing it to be more run oriented given the talent we have in the backfield which in my view needs to happen regardless
.

 

[SDogo]

This may just be the single dumbest thing I've read on this board.

Not really, we the fans and the media and the players have not stopped talking about Owens for months upon months.

You don't hear about Burress from the Giants team, staff or fans unless it has some thing to do with the case. The Giants players were asked if they wanted him back and they answered, now it's a none issue. They all are going to let what ever happen, happen.

Not the case with TO.

 

[sonnyboy]

That absolutely makes no sense. So you're saying T.O. is such a great leader that we should keep him on the team? What are you exactly trying to say?? T.O. IS THE PROBLEM

Owens is not a leader. He's not the type of player that helps in the area of team unity.

So are a lot of GOOD to GREAT players in the NFL. Every year plenty of teams succeed with a number of these type players. We did in 2007.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Exactly.

We are a 1-15 team without Owens.

I was going to mock you for this until I saw the next post...

We were 9-7, but it was the greatest 9-7 we had ever seen.

Those 9-7 teams would maul the 1992 team.

Why? Because those mid-90 teams didn't have Owens.

I swear that if Romo dropped back to pass, and threw the ball to Owens each and every offensive snap, this team would EASILY finish 22-0. The three extra wins would be awarded to us by virtue of our (read: Owens) absolute awesomeness!

These are cold hard facts that you blind Owens haters just don't want to admit.

You're alive today because Owens is keeping you alive. He's THAT good.

Now I see what you're doing.