Beck offered to Cowboys?

[khiladi]

ANy trade in which it gets Henry off the field is a good thing... That is one player who really hampered the play of Jenkins....

 

[theebs]

IMO if Parcells thought so much of Beck that he immediately wanted to draft another QB and demote him to 3rd string, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. Parcells isn't as perfect as some seem to think, but one thing I agree with him on his is the "battlefield commander" mentality he wants from his QBs. And if Parcells thinks Beck doesn't have it, I wouldn't give a thing for him.

Especially Henry, who may be slow and not a top corner, but he's not that bad either and is still a useful player.

Jeez. This smells like giving away Ferguson because Jerry thought he'd get cute and play Tank instead. Or the OJ Santiago trade.

Hopefully this is EXACTLY the kind of thing Dan Reeves will stop from happening.

agreed and mickey spagnola has already said he talked to people that think hamlin might go to ss and henry to free safety.

So exactly why would we give up henry? I dont get giving up henry at all. He is a good player, people obsess over his contract, Well I would rather have him for the final year and play him at corner and safety than have a third string qb.

Now, having said that I am all for getting a couple of young qbs here, as I have been for about 3 years now. But I wouldnt move henry for one. Especially with all the losers in this locker room, henry is one of the remaining good people.

 

[Hostile]

I think Garrett wants to bring Beck to Dallas because he wants to spend more time with his son.

That's just freaking funny right there.

 

[Stash]

IMO if Parcells thought so much of Beck that he immediately wanted to draft another QB and demote him to 3rd string, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. Parcells isn't as perfect as some seem to think, but one thing I agree with him on his is the "battlefield commander" mentality he wants from his QBs. And if Parcells thinks Beck doesn't have it, I wouldn't give a thing for him.

Especially Henry, who may be slow and not a top corner, but he's not that bad either and is still a useful player.

Jeez. This smells like giving away Ferguson because Jerry thought he'd get cute and play Tank instead. Or the OJ Santiago trade.

Hopefully this is EXACTLY the kind of thing Dan Reeves will stop from happening.

Seriously.

A starting cornerback for a third string QB?

Doesn't sound like much of a deal to me.

More like Parcells fleecing the Cowboys - again.

I'd prefer to use a mid-round draft choice this season rather than overpaying for another team's throwaway.

 

[AbeBeta]

We seem to like Beck. And Miami seems to not. I expect that we have a bit more dealing to do with the Fins this year. Likely just late round picks for players or scrub for scrub deals. They probably like guys like McQ, Carp, Hurd, Watkins, and Stanback enough to try to acquire a pair of them for a late rounder which may eventually turn discussions to what sort of package they want for Beck.

Beck hasn't had much success but a 3rd year guy who was well regarded coming out of college is going to be more ready to contribute than a 5th round QB pick

 

[zrinkill]

:laugh2: :laugh2: Kind of looks like a young Brad Johnson.

:laugh1:

 

[Alexander]

IMO if Parcells thought so much of Beck that he immediately wanted to draft another QB and demote him to 3rd string, I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. Parcells isn't as perfect as some seem to think, but one thing I agree with him on his is the "battlefield commander" mentality he wants from his QBs. And if Parcells thinks Beck doesn't have it, I wouldn't give a thing for him.

Especially Henry, who may be slow and not a top corner, but he's not that bad either and is still a useful player.

Jeez. This smells like giving away Ferguson because Jerry thought he'd get cute and play Tank instead. Or the OJ Santiago trade.

Hopefully this is EXACTLY the kind of thing Dan Reeves will stop from happening.

Funny you should bring up the O.J. Santiago trade since I believe it was Reeves and Rich McKay who swindled Jones on that one. Happy days.



Dallas Deals For TE Santiago
Cowboys Acquire O.J. Santiago From Atlanta

IRVING, Texas

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, left, talks about trade as coach Dave Campo listens. (AP)




(AP) After a month of auditions for a third tight end, the Dallas Cowboys acquired O.J. Santiago from Atlanta on Sunday for two late-round draft picks.

A season-ending injury to Mike Lucky early in training camp left Dallas without a backup to David LaFleur and Jackie Harris. Lucky was to have joined LaFleur as a second blocking tight end on as much as 20 percent of the Cowboys' new offense.

Dallas' search included trading for one candidate, claiming another off waivers, signing three players and looking at another already on the roster.

The Cowboys were leaning toward keeping two - a blocker to back up and complement LaFleur and a receiver to back up Harris. Then the Falcons called Saturday and, after a few hours of negotiations, Dallas agreed to give up a fourth-round pick next year and a seventh-rounder in 2001.

"They'd been watching us bring in tight ends, so they saw we were potentially interested," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said.

Santiago caught 27 passes for 428 yards and five touchdowns in 1998, the year Atlanta reached the Super Bowl. His blocking also helped Jamal Anderson lead the NFC in rushing.

His most memorable contribution to the Falcons that year, however, may have been inventing the "Dirty Bird" dance that became their trademark.

Last season, Santiago had 15 catches for 174 yards. He'll be a free agent after this season.

"I feel very comfortable he'll be able to walk in and contribute immediately," coach Dave Campo said.

To reach the 53-man roster limit, Dallas cut 18 players. Offensive lineman Tony Hutson and fullback Ryan Neufeld were the only members of last year's team to be released.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

:laugh1:

Scary isn't it?

Plus reading the bio of Beck you kind of makes it even more of a funny comparison.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'd prefer to use a mid-round draft choice this season rather than overpaying for another team's throwaway.

Exactly. It's hardly news that Parcells doesn't like Beck. Just wait for him to be cut, or offer scraps and hope he bites. If he doesn't, no big deal.

I have no idea why Jerry always has to get nervous and jump at these deals. My gosh, even if you're naturally edgy and impatient, wouldn't you settle down and learn after years of doing this?

Henry isn't nearly as bad as people say, and like theebs said, he's a first-class person. There is no need to get rid of people like that.

I really pray that having Pacman had nothing to do with the muddled thinking behind this almost-deal.

My gosh. Hire Dan Reeves yesterday, please.

Oh, and thanks for the awful memories, Alex. uke:

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Beck hasn't had much success but a 3rd year guy who was well regarded coming out of college is going to be more ready to contribute than a 5th round QB pick

I don't want Beck because he, nor any other rookied draft-pick QB, would have the expereince needed to be a backup to the #1 QB in Dallas.

What we need at #2 QB is a vetran with experience who is not padt his years like Brad Johnson.

And we already have a #3 QB to develop, so I wouldn't wnat Beck in that #3 QB spot either. I mean, right now he's Miami's #3 QB (!!!MIAMI'S!!! people ) and even THEY don't want him. that's all you need to know.

Sorry, Beck...PASS!

 

[theebs]

Exactly. It's hardly news that Parcells doesn't like Beck. Just wait for him to be cut, or offer scraps and hope he bites. If he doesn't, no big deal.

I have no idea why Jerry always has to get nervous and jump at these deals. My gosh, even if you're naturally edgy and impatient, wouldn't you settle down and learn after years of doing this?

Henry isn't nearly as bad as people say, and like theebs said, he's a first-class person. There is no need to get rid of people like that.

I really pray that having Pacman had nothing to do with the muddled thinking behind this almost-deal.

My gosh. Hire Dan Reeves yesterday, please.

Oh, and thanks for the awful memories, Alex. uke:

jerry has always managed this organization like the world is ending tomorrow.

If he traded romo for beck I wouldnt be suprised.

It would be nice if reeves came in and had jones's ear and helped him when the phone rings.

Who knows who this group decides cant play and they send them off.

 

[Hostile]

Anthony Henry is going to be 33 towards the end of next season, is in the final year of an expensive contract, and has had injury issues almost every year he has been here. On top of this he is about to be phased out at CB by two younger, more talented players. The ideas of him as a FS are pipe dreams at best.

Beck is a serious upgrade over Jurassic Brad Johnson. We were high on Beck in that Draft but Miami under Cam Cameron took him earlier than we were willing to. Parcells was enamored with Chad Henne and has his guy Pennington to be there until Henne is ready. It has nothing to do with Beck being a bad QB.

No brainer if you ask me. Beck is a perfect backup option for us if Romo needs a game or two off and he might even push the guy to be better. He has some of the same tools as Romo with a little less gunslinger in him and maybe a slightly better arm. The common element is brains and maturity.

 

[Bleu Star]

Anthony Henry is going to be 33 towards the end of next season, is in the final year of an expensive contract, and has had injury issues almost every year he has been here. On top of this he is about to be phased out at CB by two younger, more talented players. The ideas of him as a FS are pipe dreams at best.

Beck is a serious upgrade over Jurassic Brad Johnson. We were high on Beck in that Draft but Miami under Cam Cameron took him earlier than we were willing to. Parcells was enamored with Chad Henne and has his guy Pennington to be there until Henne is ready. It has nothing to do with Beck being a bad QB.

No brainer if you ask me. Beck is a perfect backup option for us if Romo needs a game or two off and he might even push the guy to be better. He has some of the same tools as Romo with a little less gunslinger in him and maybe a slightly better arm. The common element is brains and maturity.

Oh. So we agree on something?

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[big dog cowboy]

I have to wonder if he has it in him to be a good player. I remember seeing a video of him singing .....ahhhhh I'm a loser baby.

I see what you did there.


:laugh2:

 

[big dog cowboy]

Anthony Henry is going to be 33 towards the end of next season, is in the final year of an expensive contract, and has had injury issues almost every year he has been here. On top of this he is about to be phased out at CB by two younger, more talented players. The ideas of him as a FS are pipe dreams at best.

I'm on record as never buying into that move. Since it seems to happen around the league it sounds logical but in this case I'm not seeing a good ending.

 

[Hostile]

Oh. So we agree on something?

On a lot of things. You just focus on what we don't agree on and take it personal.

 

[AmishCowboy]

Yeah, Bill might like some of our spares like McQuistan, Watkins or maybe Stanback, remember how much Ireland liked him?.

 

[DCBoysfan]

Anthony Henry is going to be 33 towards the end of next season, is in the final year of an expensive contract, and has had injury issues almost every year he has been here. On top of this he is about to be phased out at CB by two younger, more talented players. The ideas of him as a FS are pipe dreams at best.

Beck is a serious upgrade over Jurassic Brad Johnson. We were high on Beck in that Draft but Miami under Cam Cameron took him earlier than we were willing to. Parcells was enamored with Chad Henne and has his guy Pennington to be there until Henne is ready. It has nothing to do with Beck being a bad QB.

No brainer if you ask me. Beck is a perfect backup option for us if Romo needs a game or two off and he might even push the guy to be better. He has some of the same tools as Romo with a little less gunslinger in him and maybe a slightly better arm. The common element is brains and maturity.

Yea I like the trade, I don't see Henry as a FS with this team, he may give it a try in training camp, I can see why Dallas didnt make the trade earlier in the year, but if we can do a Henry for Beck deal this off season I think it would be a good move.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Anthony Henry is going to be 33 towards the end of next season, is in the final year of an expensive contract, and has had injury issues almost every year he has been here. On top of this he is about to be phased out at CB by two younger, more talented players. The ideas of him as a FS are pipe dreams at best.

Beck is a serious upgrade over Jurassic Brad Johnson. We were high on Beck in that Draft but Miami under Cam Cameron took him earlier than we were willing to. Parcells was enamored with Chad Henne and has his guy Pennington to be there until Henne is ready. It has nothing to do with Beck being a bad QB.

No brainer if you ask me. Beck is a perfect backup option for us if Romo needs a game or two off and he might even push the guy to be better. He has some of the same tools as Romo with a little less gunslinger in him and maybe a slightly better arm. The common element is brains and maturity.

Good points about Henry. He's servicable this season, but maybe not much past that.

I guess I'm not against getting Beck, but I think I would prefer someone with more playing time, like Fitzpatrick, Ramsey (is he still available), etc.

 

[Alexander]

Yeah, Bill might like some of our spares like McQuistan, Watkins or maybe Stanback, remember how much Ireland liked him?.

Henry still has value. Watkins also.

Bobby Carpenter. Now, we are talking a fair trade. One third stringer for another.