Belichick has agreed to become North Carolina's next HC - It's official!

[DZSierra]

and what was Brady's record the last year he was playing when he did not have a loaded team around him?

Brady still made the superbowl with a different team.

Brady's 3 years with the bucks he went 32-18, with his last year being his worst at 8-9

Bill's last 3 years he was 22-29, with his last year being his worst at 4-13

The guy is 72 years old and had NEVER coached the college ranks.

Lots of coaches can go between college and the pros, but very few are successful at both. Reality is no one in the NFL wanted Bill when he was looking, and that also probably played a part in his decision on going to UNC.

Hey, I give UNC a A+ to show the world you're trying, and at the end of the day, as long as they aren't stuck with his son when Bill leaves or gets booted out, I could see them hiring him. However, the chances of a 72 year old head coach who has never coached at the college level and everything that comes with dealing with colleges, I don't see it happening.

UNC did accomplish one goal however and that is making national headlines.

On a plus note for Bill, if he dumps his current girlfriend, lots of younger ones he can be "working with".

 

[gtb1943]

Brady still made the superbowl with a different team.

Brady's 3 years with the bucks he went 32-18, with his last year being his worst at 8-9

Bill's last 3 years he was 22-29, with his last year being his worst at 4-13

The guy is 72 years old and had NEVER coached the college ranks.

Lots of coaches can go between college and the pros, but very few are successful at both. Reality is no one in the NFL wanted Bill when he was looking, and that also probably played a part in his decision on going to UNC.

Hey, I give UNC a A+ to show the world you're trying, and at the end of the day, as long as they aren't stuck with his son when Bill leaves or gets booted out, I could see them hiring him. However, the chances of a 72 year old head coach who has never coached at the college level and everything that comes with dealing with colleges, I don't see it happening.

UNC did accomplish one goal however and that is making national headlines.

On a plus note for Bill, if he dumps his current girlfriend, lots of younger ones he can be "working with".

So why was not Marino winning multiple Super Bowls when Shula was still there or After?
Why did not Jim Kelly win multiple super bowls under a HOF coach?
You trying to claim Brady was six times better?
Really pathetic argument

 

[DZSierra]

So why was not Marino winning multiple Super Bowls when Shula was still there or After?
Why did not Jim Kelly win multiple super bowls under a HOF coach?
You trying to claim Brady was six times better?
Really pathetic argument

YOU'RE the one who brought up Brady's record at Tampa Bay

I guess that makes you just as pathetic per arguments LOL

End of the day, do I really care who coaches where in the college OR pro ranks? No. Doesn't affect me one bit.

Did have lunch with a UNC graduate today ironically enough. Asked him his take on it (hiring of Bill), and as a alumni, his take was it made the news and has put UNC on the map for at least this year for the hire.

On that I completely agree with. He also told me that his son isn't locked into replacing his dad when he retires (don't know if that's fact or fiction) but again, that does make sense and no way would I have allowed a new coach dictate who is replacing him.

The issue is a 72 year old man who is set in his ways with dealing with pro players who now will have to coach college kids, and deal with being a "college coach" who is the face of the program. I give Bill credit for doing it. At 72 with the money he has, I'd just enjoy the life I built.

 

[gtb1943]

YOU'RE the one who brought up Brady's record at Tampa Bay

I guess that makes you just as pathetic per arguments LOL

End of the day, do I really care who coaches where in the college OR pro ranks? No. Doesn't affect me one bit.

Did have lunch with a UNC graduate today ironically enough. Asked him his take on it (hiring of Bill), and as a alumni, his take was it made the news and has put UNC on the map for at least this year for the hire.

On that I completely agree with. He also told me that his son isn't locked into replacing his dad when he retires (don't know if that's fact or fiction) but again, that does make sense and no way would I have allowed a new coach dictate who is replacing him.

The issue is a 72 year old man who is set in his ways with dealing with pro players who now will have to coach college kids, and deal with being a "college coach" who is the face of the program. I give Bill credit for doing it. At 72 with the money he has, I'd just enjoy the life I built.

You are the one claiming Brady hired the coaching staff; did the FA; managed the cap; did the trades and formed the roster. I cannot imagine anyone not understanding how much excellent or better coaches and GMs are responsible for championships.
ONE PLAYER IS ONE PLAYER OUT OF 22 STARTERS.

 

[DZSierra]

You are the one claiming Brady hired the coaching staff; did the FA; managed the cap; did the trades and formed the roster. I cannot imagine anyone not understanding how much excellent or better coaches and GMs are responsible for championships.
ONE PLAYER IS ONE PLAYER OUT OF 22 STARTERS.

I completely agree. There are so many variables involved in creating a superbowl caliber team, and not one person is completely to take the credit, but everyone involved does have varying degrees of directly being related to that success.

I do however think that a lot of people in the NFL think it's Biliichicks time to retire, and Bilichick of course feels otherwise.

Bilichick is 72, the next oldest NFL coach is Andy Reid at age 66.

The irony is UNC replaced their old head coach, who happened to be the oldest active head college football coach with a younger coach, and that the younger coach is STILL the oldest active college football coach.

UNC is grasping at straws trying to make a name for themselves. They succeeded for now because it's BIG news. I just don't happen to think with all the money that UNC is spending is worth the investment, but my opinion (like everyone else's here) really means jack squat.

No different than everyones opinion of Jerry Jones.

 

[gtb1943]

BB is probably done; but one never knows.

Have to wonder about the reasoning behind this move for UNC

while not a top tier program its still a pretty desirable place especially for younger coaches looking to move up

 

[eromeopolk]

If he wants to continue being a head coach the only choice he’s being given is college football. NFL teams are hiring younger head coaches.

How did that work out for McVay in the Super Bowl vs. Belichick. Age has little to do with it unless senility has set in. Football is still simple that is why they teach it with X O and directional arrows. Throw to score, run to win, make special teams special, and defense wins championships. It all about the talent and letting the talent win.

 

[eromeopolk]

I think he's choosing the job that was offered to him. He said he had not been contacted by NFL teams. If he'd wait, maybe that would change, but he doesn't want to wait.

Coaches coach. Bill has coaching DNA. Remember he was a ball boy for Roger Staubach while his father was coach at the Naval acadamey.

 

[KJJ]

How did that work out for McVay in the Super Bowl vs. Belichick. Age has little to do with it unless senility has set in. Football is still simple that is why they teach it with X O and directional arrows. Throw to score, run to win, make special teams special, and defense wins championships. It all about the talent and letting the talent win.

Belichick had Brady who he’s never won anything without. How did it go for Belichick without Brady? Any coach could win a SB with Brady. McVay has reached two Super Bowls with two different QBs. Once Brady left NE it was downhill for Belichick while Brady went on to win another SB.

 

[gtb1943]

Belichick had Brady who he’s never won anything without. How did it go for Belichick without Brady? Any coach could win a SB with Brady. McVay has reached two Super Bowls with two different QBs. Once Brady left NE it was downhill for Belichick while Brady went on to win another SB.

I have to laugh at anyone that is blind to how great a coach is that built three separate teams that won SBs
Strange how some here think Dak is a great QB but is hampered by everyone else when the fact is that MM is a better coach than Dak is a QB
Your claim its all about the QB ignores great QBs like Kelly and Marino that never won SBs
BUT Then some here are stupid enough to think Brady was like six times better than any QB ever
Would Mahomes have three rings now if he did not have Reid as his HC?

 

[eromeopolk]

Belichick had Brady who he’s never won anything without. Any coach could win a SB with Brady. McVay has reached two Super Bowls with two different QBs. Once Brady left NE it was downhill for Belichick while Brady went on to win another SB.

Ok you just lost all credibility. Belichick won the 2000 AFC Championship game with Bledsoe when Brady got injured. After the 16-0 season, Belichick went 11-5 without Brady when Brady was injured in 2008 with less talent. NE overall talent was down when Brady left. The man coached NE to the playoffs with rookie QB Matt Jones.

It was more than Brady leaving for Tampa, who was loaded like Tampa was loaded when they got rid of Dungy for Chucky. See NE roster talent depletion from FA, retirements, and injuries. But, it was never coaching. He made Elliott look valuable and Jerry Dumbo GM Jones took the hook without bait.

 

[KJJ]

Ok you just lost all credibility. Belichick won the 2000 AFC Championship game with Bledsoe when Brady got injured. After the 16-0 season, Belichick went 11-5 without Brady when Brady was injured in 2008 with less talent. NE overall talent was down when Brady left. The man coached NE to the playoffs with rookie QB Matt Jones.

It was more than Brady leaving for Tampa, who was loaded like Tampa was loaded when they got rid of Dungy for Chucky. See NE roster talent depletion from FA, retirements, and injuries. But, it was never coaching. He made Elliott look valuable and Jerry Dumbo GM Jones took the hook without bait.

That was the 2001 season and Brady led NE to that championship game and a SB win that season. Belichick was 0-2 to start that season with Bledsoe. He played well in the AFC Championship but was back on the bench for the SB. They probably would have missed the playoffs had Bledsoe not got injured and Brady took over. Tampa missed the playoffs the year before Brady arrived. In 2008 the Pats might have gone undefeated again had Brady not been lost for the season in the opener. That team would have lost no more than 2 games with Brady. They ended missing the playoffs with Cassel.

 

[gtb1943]

That was the 2001 season and Brady led NE to that championship game and a SB win that season. Belichick was 0-2 to start that season with Bledsoe. He played well in the AFC Championship but was back on the bench for the SB. They probably would have missed the playoffs had Bledsoe not got injured and Brady took over. Tampa missed the playoffs the year before Brady arrived. In 2008 the Pats might have gone undefeated again had Brady not been lost for the season in the opener. That team would have lost no more than 2 games with Brady. They ended missing the playoffs with Cassel.

And the magical brady could not get a winning season his last year
all he could do was have a divisional championship of a crap division
once again you lose

 

[DZSierra]

Have to wonder about the reasoning behind this move for UNC

Media circus, plain and simple.

Next April the man will be 73, the same age as the man who was canned before him. He's the oldest coach in college football. Currently Andy Reid is the oldest coach in the NFL at age 66.

Just like pro athletes that don't know when to retire, coaches can face the same issue I guess. I honestly think the reason why Bill wasn't hired when he was looking for a NFL gig was people thought he was past his prime.

Read up on Bill's contract. Interesting per how long the contract is as well as financial hits taken on when he departs the school.

Since there are no reports in the contract of his son being the "coach in waiting" obligating UNC to hire him (Steve) when his dad (Bill) leaves, I can see the risk/reward by UNC causing this media circus.

Thing is, when I moved to NC a couple of decades ago as a civilian, I had no clue exactly how popular college basketball was here, particularly when I dated a Duke graduate at the time LOL

 

[Whyjerry]

It will be very interesting to watch. Should be able to recruit in the short term. Long term not sure. He is a great great coach. Will that beat out his age and the odd fit to coach teenagers. Let’s see.

 

[DZSierra]

Should be able to recruit in the short term. Long term not sure. He is a great great coach. Will that beat out his age and the odd fit to coach teenagers. Let’s see.

The irony is if you read his contract, it's interesting to see the time frame on when and what Bill is hit with when and if he decides to leave.

 

[RoboQB]

Terrible mistake made here... by the NYG.
While it would've been a great story in Dallas,
legendary coach who used to play catch with Roger Staubach as a boy gets the Cowboys back on track,
the more realistic story was a return to the Meadowlands, where many years ago, lil' Bill's defense was shutting down high powered offenses while big Bill was yelling at Simms (lol).

Mara had a golden opportunity to excite his fan base and restore hope to a team so awful they got swept by the Dallas Cowboys (heehee, had to do it). I wonder if Mara's lack of sleep since allowing Saquan Barkley to leave town was a factor (had to do that too). I think Belichick can do better than the clowns there now.

 

[DZSierra]

Terrible mistake made here... by the NYG.
While it would've been a great story in Dallas,
legendary coach who used to play catch with Roger Staubach as a boy gets the Cowboys back on track,
the more realistic story was a return to the Meadowlands, where many years ago, lil' Bill's defense was shutting down high powered offenses while big Bill was yelling at Simms (lol).

Mara had a golden opportunity to excite his fan base and restore hope to a team so awful they got swept by the Dallas Cowboys (heehee, had to do it). I wonder if Mara's lack of sleep since allowing Saquan Barkley to leave town was a factor (had to do that too). I think Belichick can do better than the clowns there now.

That actually makes sense.

 

[eromeopolk]

That was the 2001 season and Brady led NE to that championship game and a SB win that season. Belichick was 0-2 to start that season with Bledsoe. He played well in the AFC Championship but was back on the bench for the SB. They probably would have missed the playoffs had Bledsoe not got injured and Brady took over. Tampa missed the playoffs the year before Brady arrived. In 2008 the Pats might have gone undefeated again had Brady not been lost for the season in the opener. That team would have lost no more than 2 games with Brady. They ended missing the playoffs with Cassel.

I will not waste my time defending that Bill Belichick is a great NFL Coach. Been there and done that.

Tom Landry did not when a Super Bowl without Staubach. I guess he couldn't coach either.

 

[KJJ]

I will not waste my time defending that Bill Belichick is a great NFL Coach. Been there and done that.

Tom Landry did not when a Super Bowl without Staubach. I guess he couldn't coach either.

I’m not saying Belichick wasn’t a great coach but as an HC he struggled without Brady. His coaching record without Brady doesn’t lie.