Benjamin Morrison CB Notre Dame

[America's Cowboy]

So you draft for what you think the biggest need is over talent…got it.

Again strongly disagree with that as well.

Yes, absolutely 100%! How else will we fill our biggest holes in need??? And you wonder why we keep falling short for almost 30 years?

 

[cnuball21]

Yes, absolutely 100%! How else will we fill our biggest holes in need??? And you wonder why we keep falling short for almost 30 years?

We keep falling short bc we don’t do enough in FA then we force need picks over talent in the draft.

When we’ve taken the BPA it’s led to picks like Martin, Lamb, Parsons, Diggs etc…

When we draft for needs it’s led to picks like Taco, Mazi, Guyton, Schoon etc (I do have hopes for Mazi).

Taking the best talent wins just about every time.

 

[cnuball21]

True. BUT is he? The board that gives recommendations to pro prospects is usually pretty decent about its evaluation of a players draft status. I imagine he will wait for that and see.

He’s top 15 on Danes board and is considered a 1st rounder by most. So yes, he’s a freaking stud.

 

[America's Cowboy]

We keep falling short bc we don’t do enough in FA then we force need picks over talent in the draft.

When we’ve taken the BPA it’s led to picks like Martin, Lamb, Parsons, Diggs etc…

When we draft for needs it’s led to picks like Taco, Mazi, Guyton, Schoon etc (I do have hopes for Mazi).

Taking the best talent wins just about every time.

You're wrong. We took needy players like Tyron Smith, Micah Parsons, Zack Martin was also a need, etc in early rounds. All turned out smart picks. Remember, Jerry wanted Johnny Manzel, but someone convinced him to instead pick a player of need in Zack Martin, so you got that wrong.

There are more but you get the point.

 

[cnuball21]

You're wrong. We took needy players like Tyron Smith, Micah Parsons, Zack Martin was also a need, etc in early rounds. All turned out smart picks. Remember, Jerry wanted Johnny Manzel, but someone convinced him to instead pick a player of need in Zack Martin, so you got that wrong.

There are more but you get the point.

Go check out the consensus boards on the players I’ve referenced and you’ll see they were all BPA but believe what you want.

 

[stilltheguru]

According to consensus taco was bpa. Yall are arguing about nothing. Nobody does bpa in the NFL. Nobody. It's a mix of bpa and need but I'll let yall continue

 

[darthseinfeld]

You listed a lot of names…not a lot of talent..

He just looked up the depth chart and listed the names lol

 

[darthseinfeld]

Too many holes. Not enough picks. Use a 5th round pick (currently have 4 5th rounders) to address CB.

You can't count on a 5th round pick fixinv anything. Those are lottery tickets

 

[America's Cowboy]

You can't count on a 5th round pick fixinv anything. Those are lottery tickets

Same goes for other positions of need. CB has been addressed within the first 3 rounds various times over the last 8 years. It's time other positions of need get addressed first.

 

[darthseinfeld]

True. BUT is he? The board that gives recommendations to pro prospects is usually pretty decent about its evaluation of a players draft status. I imagine he will wait for that and see.

Just not enough info out there about his prognosis. I cant find anything saying more than " season ending hip injury"

If he is expected to be 100% by camp, I think he is going in the top 20

 

[darthseinfeld]

Same goes for other positions of need. CB has been addressed within the first 3 rounds various times over the last 8 years. It's time other positions of need get addressed first.

Its not a wait your turn thing. Its a you take the player that will best help your team. If thats a CB, you take the CB

 

[America's Cowboy]

Its not a wait your turn thing. Its a you take the player that will best help your team. If thats a CB, you take the CB

Argue all you want. CB early has gotten addressed. Time for other positions.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Targeting needs is something of a fools errand IMO. Rosters in the NFL change too fast, and rookies are seldom able to contribute immediately. Hell, half the early rounders won't even make it as NFL players.

Adding good football players is priority #1. You can use need to sieve between similarly graded players, but how many times has Dallas drafted a "need" player over a slap-in-the-face BPA player and ended up happy with their choice 4 years later.

I don't see a lot of "impact" prospects in the 12-15 range this year. There's some good football players for sure, but they're not guys who look like Pro Bowl game changers. If you think Morrison is a game changer, you pick him for sure.

 

[cnuball21]

Targeting needs is something of a fools errand IMO. Rosters in the NFL change too fast, and rookies are seldom able to contribute immediately. Hell, half the early rounders won't even make it as NFL players.

Adding good football players is priority #1. You can use need to sieve between similarly graded players, but how many times has Dallas drafted a "need" player over a slap-in-the-face BPA player and ended up happy with their choice 4 years later.

I don't see a lot of "impact" prospects in the 12-15 range this year. There's some good football players for sure, but they're not guys who look like Pro Bowl game changers. If you think Morrison is a game changer, you pick him for sure.

100% spot on.

I think casual fans look at the draft and think what do I need right now instead of realizing you’re trying to find a player that’ll be good on for the next 4/5 years on their rookie contract.

You’re also trying to replace aging vets and / or expensive contracts for cheap.

Hypothetically if Morrison is the pick, and he’s good and it allows you to let Bland walk, you’ve saved about 15+ million that would’ve been used on Bland to spend on FAs or other contracts.

The long game of the draft is incredibly important which is why you take talent over need.

 

[xwalker]

Won’t cut Diggs this because his contract has injury provisions. Bet they keep Bland over him 2026.

Injury guarantee for 2025 if he remains on the roster in March.

 

[Sydla]

According to consensus taco was bpa. Yall are arguing about nothing. Nobody does bpa in the NFL. Nobody. It's a mix of bpa and need but I'll let yall continue

Is this true? I seem to recall the Cowboys admitted later there was a CB left in the board that they had rated higher.

 

[Sydla]

Injury guarantee for 2025 if he remains on the roster in March.

9MM of his 2025 base salary is in an injury guarantee right now. In March of 2025 it goes from an injury guarantee to a full guarantee if still on roster.

 

[stilltheguru]

Is this true? I seem to recall the Cowboys admitted later there was a CB left in the board that they had rated higher.

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2025/consensus-big-board-2025?pos=WR

Check 2017. People just like to parrot the bpa thing when it's convenient. I'll repeat, no team does bpa every first round pick. It's just.............false

 

[Sydla]

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2025/consensus-big-board-2025?pos=WR

Check 2017. People just like to parrot the bpa thing when it's convenient. I'll repeat, no team does bpa every first round pick. It's just.............false

Consensus of draft ratings from various places.

But the Cowboys reportedly had Kevin King higher on their board and the only player left with a first round grade when they picked Charlton.

 

[gtb1943]

Consensus of draft ratings from various places.

But the Cowboys reportedly had Kevin King higher on their board and the only player left with a first round grade when they picked Charlton.

whichever scout had Taco that high should have been shown the door