Bennett = Wright

[wileedog]

This is pointless. Anyhow, Bennett has the ability to be a big time receiving threat. WRs usually take the longest to mature. A receiving TE is a receiver. Give Bennett time. Then you can have your crow cooked anyway you like.

I have not once in this thread claimed that Bennett will absolutely not improve next year. I only pointed out that he regressed this season and his value as a blocking TE doeesn't warrant his high draft pick. Heck Phillips is almost as good and we got him in the 6th.

But when Jerry Jones of all people is calling out your work ethic, there better be a whole lot less twittering and a whole lot more catching passes.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You don't waste a player with as much talent as Bennett has as a left tackle. Especially since more than likely he'd suck at it.

 

[Doomsday101]

I have not once in this thread claimed that Bennett will absolutely not improve next year. I only pointed out that he regressed this season and his value as a blocking TE doeesn't warrant his high draft pick. Heck Phillips is almost as good and we got him in the 6th.

But when Jerry Jones of all people is calling out your work ethic, there better be a whole lot less twittering and a whole lot more catching passes.

I agree. Bennett needs to grow up. He is entering his 3rd year and I do think that he has to go out and prove himself. I will say Phillips has looked good and looks to be a solid steady player, I do think Bennett has a bigger upside but that means nothing if he does not live up to that upside.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I agree. Bennett needs to grow up. He is entering his 3rd year and I do think that he has to go out and prove himself. I will say Phillips has looked good and looks to be a solid steady player, I do think Bennett has a bigger upside but that means nothing if he does not live up to that upside.

I don't understand this criticism of Bennett. I don't see him as a guy not taking advantage of opprotunity. He's not getting the football. But he's still blocking. That's not a sign of imaturity. And everyone jumps on this Phillips bandwaggon and he didn't do anything any better than Bennett did this year. He uses twitter. He uses facebook. Fine. But from what i've seen this season it hasn't effected his development. He just didn't get many chances to do anything. Let's remember. The guy is not even our 1st option at tight end let alone as a receiver. Roy, Miles, Crayton, Witten, Barber and Felix are all options in the passing game before Bennett and rightfully so.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't understand this criticism of Bennett. I don't see him as a guy not taking advantage of opprotunity. He's not getting the football. But he's still blocking. That's not a sign of imaturity. And everyone jumps on this Phillips bandwaggon and he didn't do anything any better than Bennett did this year. He uses twitter. He uses facebook. Fine. But from what i've seen this season it hasn't effected his development. He just didn't get many chances to do anything. Let's remember. The guy is not even our 1st option at tight end let alone as a receiver. Roy, Miles, Crayton, Witten, Barber and Felix are all options in the passing game before Bennett and rightfully so.

I like Bennett and glad we got him but he has not made much out of the opportunities when they have come his way. In contrast Phillips did not get many opportunities but he did make the most of them.

Yes he is a great blocker not a big surprise when that was pretty much what he was asked to do at Texas A&M.

He had a great training camp making allot of catches so naturally the expectation were high coming out of camp and he did not carry that into the season.

I do think he will be a big time player but I also think he has some maturing to do and some soul searching to do this offseason in terms of what he wants out of his career in the NFL. Personally I think the sky is the limit for him

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I like Bennett and glad we got him but he has not made much out of the opportunities when they have come his way. In contrast Phillips did not get many opportunities but he did make the most of them.

Yes he is a great blocker not a big surprise when that was pretty much what he was asked to do at Texas A&M.

He had a great training camp making allot of catches so naturally the expectation were high coming out of camp and he did not carry that into the season.

I do think he will be a big time player but I also think he has some maturing to do and some soul searching to do this offseason in terms of what he wants out of his career in the NFL. Personally I think the sky is the limit for him

I just don't see where the opportunities are going to come from with as many options as the Cowboys have. Especially since he's in the game at the same time as Witten.

 

[wileedog]

I just don't see where the opportunities are going to come from with as many options as the Cowboys have. Especially since he's in the game at the same time as Witten.

Which was actually my rationale for taking the trade from Cincy. I agree he's never going to reach some elite level as long as Tony and his BFF Witten are in this offense.

That said, he managed more yards, big plays and TDs 2 years ago on the same field with Witten (and TO!) than he did this year in a much more spread around offense.

He could be doing more with his opportunities. And if he does, he will get more opportunities.

 

[Doomsday101]

I just don't see where the opportunities are going to come from with as many options as the Cowboys have. Especially since he's in the game at the same time as Witten.

He had some ball come to him and failed to make the plays, when a guy’s starts going out and making plays they will eventually get more opportunities.

Witten gets all the opportunities because Romo knows he can trust that Witten will make the plays.

The fact that he is in the game with Witten should be a reason why he will get more opportunities since the defense have to pay attention to him but to get more you got to make the ones that come your way.

 

[YosemiteSam]

You don't waste a player with as much talent as Bennett has as a left tackle. Especially since more than likely he'd suck at it.

As for positional importants LT >>>>>>>>>> TE. In my opinion, LT is second only to the QB position and they are directly relational. Your LT protects your QB's most vulnerable side.

 

[Alexander]

I don't understand this criticism of Bennett. I don't see him as a guy not taking advantage of opprotunity. He's not getting the football.

He dropped several passes thrown his way this year. And that is not counting the others that were incomplete because he undoubtedly was not where he was supposed to be. Perhaps someone less lazy than I can post those targeting statistics. Then compare it to Phillips. One will have a higher percentage than the other. And it not be Jupiter's Crunch.

Roy, Miles, Crayton, Witten, Barber and Felix are all options in the passing game before Bennett and rightfully so.

And he was the same option behind Owens, Crayton, Williams, Witten, Barber and Choice last year and he still managed not to disappear and he still made an impact when he did see the ball, which is all that can be asked.

He regressed this season in the passing game, there is no question about it. This isn't a question about not getting opportunities. It is a question about making an impression when you do. Too many times we heard his name called for a mindless penalty rather than a nice catch of a catchable football.

 

[Alexander]

He had some ball come to him and failed to make the plays, when a guy’s starts going out and making plays they will eventually get more opportunities.

Witten gets all the opportunities because Romo knows he can trust that Witten will make the plays.

The fact that he is in the game with Witten should be a reason why he will get more opportunities since the defense have to pay attention to him but to get more you got to make the ones that come your way.

Sounds to me that Witten is a progress stopper.

 

[dest]

From MB's twitter feed just now:

Jupiters_Crunch: Y ppl still asking me about football the season over for me. I'm not thinkn about that rgt now

 

[Randy White]

Rayfield was a talented Basketball player and a good TE who Tom Landry moved to LT... With todays speed rushers on the left side who weigh for the most part under 300lbs and with Bennett being 265-270 now...well you can see where I am going with this...would his value to the team be more as a LT...does anyone believe he has the mental makeup to play the position.

It is an idea...that would take time to come to fruitation...but whether we do or do not move him...I would much rather have an athelete out at LT that can learn technic than have a technician out there that has little to no atheltic ability.

Not a bad idea at all...

 

[Randy White]

No not really.

His problem at TE was always blocking. He's "better" at it, but no where near good enough to be a tackle. And he's too gifted in speed/height/catching to let that go to waste.

Now, I can understand the speed/height/catching angle being wasted, but his strength all year long has been his blocking skills.

Also, the speed/height qualities are a major PLUS when it comes to LTs..

 

[TheSport78]

From MB's twitter feed just now:

Yeah I'll add this (I just sent him this friendly tweet @Jupiters_Crunch yo man not rlly fball related but how do u train in the offseason? 5 minutes ago from web)

He responds a minute later:

Jupiters_Crunch
Idiots. 2 minutes ago from Echofon


The dude is an *******.

 

[LatinMind]

bennett is starting to irk me. on his twitter now he seems to be acting out against jerrys words. talking about people bugging him about football and season is over so he isnt thinking bout football.
those words seem exactly what jerry means. guy is just immature. football is his job. yes its offseason but the guy whos paying u millions of dollars wants an attitude adjust from you and you come out with that garbage. this guy may be a prime example of somebody who needs a reality check

id really like to have that 1st from the bengals instead of bennett now. phillips is the more complete te at this point now anyways.

 

[Randy White]

on John Phillips, who I really like and I also think he could be a tremendous asset in the future, but let's keep some prespective here:


John Phillips = 7 catches, 62 yards

Marty Bennette = 15 catches, 159 yards.

Now, while both are incredibly pathetically low, keep in mind that there's this guy named Jason Witten playing for the Cowboys, don't know if some of you have heard of him. There's this other guy named Miles Austin ( more on him to follow ) also playing for the Cowboys. And this other players named Roy Williams, and Patrick Crayton, and Felix Jones and Marion Barber and Tashard Choice.

See, ALL of those names had at least 15 receptions during the season, a couple of them at least 80, FIVE of them at least 20..

The point is this: Just like the SAME, EXACT argument that was used to defend now everybody' favorite Miles Austin when half of the posters in here wanted the Jets to sign him because he had been with the team for 3 years and hadn't done a thing yet ( y'all remember that, don't cha ? ), there's a LIMITED amount of passes that the Cowboys offense can produce and ALL of those names need to have their share.. Just like last year's names, and the year before's names.. and so on and so on. It happens when you have more talent than plays ( called for them ) you can satisfy them with which is a GOOD problem to have..

So, I'll go back to asking the question I asked the then Austin detractors during the debate:

Who's passes would YOU have taken away from in order to give them to Marty B ?

 

[LatinMind]

on John Phillips, who I really like and I also think he could be a tremendous asset in the future, but let's keep some prespective here:


John Phillips = 7 catches, 62 yards

Marty Bennette = 15 catches, 159 yards.

Now, while both are incredibly pathetically low, keep in mind that there's this guy named Jason Witten playing for the Cowboys, don't know if some of you have heard of him. There's this other guy named Miles Austin ( more on him to follow ) also playing for the Cowboys. And this other players named Roy Williams, and Patrick Crayton, and Felix Jones and Marion Barber and Tashard Choice.

See, ALL of those names had at least 15 receptions during the season, a couple of them at least 80, FIVE of them at least 20..

The point is this: Just like the SAME, EXACT argument that was used to defend now everybody' favorite Miles Austin when half of the posters in here wanted the Jets to sign him because he had been with the team for 3 years and hadn't done a thing yet ( y'all remember that, don't cha ? ), there's a LIMITED amount of passes that the Cowboys offense can produce and ALL of those names need to have their share.. Just like last year's names, and the year before's names.. and so on and so on. It happens when you have more talent than plays ( called for them ) you can satisfy them with which is a GOOD problem to have..

So, I'll go back to asking the question I asked the then Austin detractors during the debate:

Who's passes would YOU have taken away from in order to give them to Marty B ?

blah blah blah.. people are too stuck on stats. u dont have to be a rocket scientist to know bennett had a horrible yr. just watch the games. bad routes dropped passes. he was targeted alot but he screwed up. the limited attempts doesnt apply here. he got chances.

 

[Randy White]

blah blah blah.. people are too stuck on stats. u dont have to be a rocket scientist to know bennett had a horrible yr. just watch the games. bad routes dropped passes. he was targeted alot but he screwed up. the limited attempts doesnt apply here. he got chances.

Blah, blah, blah.. This is what happens when people don't know what they're talking about.

Bennett was targeted 34 times for the entire year.

139 less than Witten ( 143 )
139 less than Miles ( 143 )
62 less than RW ( 96 )
41 less than Crayton ( 75 )
2 less than Barber ( 36 )

6 more than Felix ( 28 )
8 more than Choice ( 26 )


He's a 2nd TE in an offense where he was used primarely as an extra blocker and it's loaded with weapons.

Could he have had better season ? Perhaps, but when you're targeted barely above twice per game, and targeted means thrown at, not dropped passes or " bad routes ", even if he catches all the passes that he dropped or ran all of his routes perfectly, his stats wouldn't have changed much and neither would have his contribution.

 

[CF74]

THIS WOULDN'T EVEN WORK ON MADDEN...
:madden: