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superpunk;1526174 said:
I'd offer a question for Glenn-votes.

What do you think of the difference in offensive production from 05 to 06? Keep in mind that we were still a top offense with Drew Bledsoe, even though he turned the ball over alot. Glenn had been here for years, but it seems that TO's presence really opened some things up. Glenn had one of his best years ever, playing across from TO - I'm sure he benefitted as well.

Just another thought to drop into a discussion that is nearing critical mass. ;)
Glenn '05
G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st
16 16 62 1136 18.3 71 7 18 7 49

Glenn '06
G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st
15 14 70 1047 15.0 54 6 14 5 47

Not much difference in production, actually. His yardage went down some. He also missed a game. His YPC went down. Could contribute that a bit to his knee condition. Had one less TD.

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superpunk;1526174 said:
I'd offer a question for Glenn-votes.

What do you think of the difference in offensive production from 05 to 06? Keep in mind that we were still a top offense with Drew Bledsoe, even though he turned the ball over alot. Glenn had been here for years, but it seems that TO's presence really opened some things up. Glenn had one of his best years ever, playing across from TO - I'm sure he benefitted as well.

Just another thought to drop into a discussion that is nearing critical mass. ;)

I am not sure if this is a joke due to another topic about DEs and who they had to help them concerning production.

However Just in case it is not...

Glenn actually was better the year Prior to TO coming here.

He had better stats in 3 of the 4 main categories prior to TO.

With TO

70 Rec
1047 Yards
15 Yards per catch average
6 TDs.

Year before TO

62 Recs
1136 Yards
18.3 yards per catch
7 TDs

So he had better Yards, Yards per catch average and TDs before TO arrived. The only thing that improved under TO was 8 more receptions.

Take it as you like (good for the other argument or bad...if that was what you were getting at with your post.)
 

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superpunk;1526174 said:
I'd offer a question for Glenn-votes.

What do you think of the difference in offensive production from 05 to 06? Keep in mind that we were still a top offense with Drew Bledsoe, even though he turned the ball over alot. Glenn had been here for years, but it seems that TO's presence really opened some things up. Glenn had one of his best years ever, playing across from TO - I'm sure he benefitted as well.

Just another thought to drop into a discussion that is nearing critical mass. ;)

i'm sure TO played a role in that. no one ever said that TO wasn't a good WR and in fact, many glenn voters are saying that overall, TO sure. but "cowboys" WR (since that is in the title) we're weighing years of service into the equation that the TO vocal crowd is not.

and lobbing in "how old is old" debates on the side.
 

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WoodysGirl;1526194 said:
Glenn '05
G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st
16 16 62 1136 18.3 71 7 18 7 49

Glenn '06
G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st
15 14 70 1047 15.0 54 6 14 5 47

Not much difference in production, actually. His yardage went down some. He also missed a game. His YPC went down. Could contribute that a bit to his knee condition. Had one less TD.

Perception vs reality

:laugh2:
<Shrek voice> Get out of me head Woman.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1526199 said:
:laugh2:
<Shrek voice> Get out of me head Woman.
I was gonna say "Great Minds" Then I realized who I was talking to. lol
 

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iceberg;1526186 said:
seems like about 1/2 the votes took it this way also. if owens finishes his contract here and does what he did last year, sure. he'll pass glenn.

on it's own this is a loaded question people can take in different ways. some feel it's better WR vs. better cowboys WR, then the debate comes in about how long you have to play to be a Cowboys "WR".

there are many ways to look at this question and i just wish the anally retentive owens crowd would realize that.

I don't see it so much as a loaded question as it is just vague in some ways.

The only parameter I see is it has to be a Cowboys WR and who each individual thinks is best.

So it falls to the individual to make a decision and use their own parameters to do so.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1526199 said:
:laugh2:
<Shrek voice> Get out of me head Woman.

WoodysGirl;1526202 said:
I was gonna say "Great Minds" Then I realized who I was talking to. lol

i was waiting for a JINX or something. : )
 

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WoodysGirl;1526202 said:
I was gonna say "Great Minds" Then I realized who I was talking to. lol

It's ok...you can say sexy mind if you want. I won't hold it against you. :p: ;)
 

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WoodysGirl;1526194 said:
Glenn '05
G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st
16 16 62 1136 18.3 71 7 18 7 49

Glenn '06
G GS Rec Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 40+ 1st
15 14 70 1047 15.0 54 6 14 5 47

Not much difference in production, actually. His yardage went down some. He also missed a game. His YPC went down. Could contribute that a bit to his knee condition. Had one less TD.

Perception vs reality

Important. But whether or not it was his best year wasn't really the point.

Glenn had been here awhile, and the offense....it was ok. (I said - "one of his best years ever")

TO gets here - and the offense is fantastic. Is that a feather in TO's cap?
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1526207 said:
It's ok...you can say sexy mind if you want. I won't hold it against you. :p: ;)

i don't trust people who wear shades....
 

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superpunk;1526208 said:
Important. But whether or not it was his best year wasn't really the point.

Glenn had been here awhile, and the offense....it was ok.

TO gets here - and the offense is fantastic. Is that a feather in TO's cap?

or romo's?

we had a qb change last year that no one is taking into all this yet.
 

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superpunk;1526215 said:
I already mentioned that. Keep up.

oh, the irony. : )

sorry - been a long convoluted thread.

TO's production seems to have gotten better w/Romo - anyone have stats to back that one up?
 

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superpunk;1526215 said:
I already mentioned that. Keep up.

It's your avatar...it is just so distracting.

I see that and think of you being that one kid in the movie Grandma's Boy...if you have seen the movie you would get the joke.

grandmas_boy.jpg
 

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BrAinPaiNt;1526214 said:
I don't like long haired hippies either.:p:

so i put my hair up under my hat and i went up to ask him why...
 

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iceberg;1526223 said:
so i put my hair up under my hat and i went up to ask him why...

He said you look like a fine upstanding young man, I think you'll do
So I took off my hat I said imagine that, huh, me working for you

woah!
 

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iceberg;1526217 said:
oh, the irony. : )

sorry - been a long convoluted thread.

TO's production seems to have gotten better w/Romo - anyone have stats to back that one up?

57 catches, 805 yards, 8 TDs with Romo starting 10 games

5.7 catches, 80.5 yards, .8 TDs per game with Romo

28 catches, 375 yards, 4 TDs with Bledsoe starting 6 games.

4.67 catches, 62.5 yards, .667 TD per game with Bledsoe


(Somewhere, NFL.com is off a TD)
 

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superpunk;1526208 said:
Important. But whether or not it was his best year wasn't really the point.

Glenn had been here awhile, and the offense....it was ok. (I said - "one of his best years ever")

TO gets here - and the offense is fantastic. Is that a feather in TO's cap?
Then I'm not understanding the point you're making or what you're asking. Statistically, last year was not Glenn's "Best year ever" His numbers were about the same as they had been throughout his career when he's not injured, suspended, and he has a decent QB.
 
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