Best defenses of all time

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No, not even close. The most dominating front seven in the History of the NFL was the Fearsome Foursome, the Purple Gang, the Steel Curtain and the Doomsday Defense, all were more talented then the Bears front seven in 85, IMO. That 85 Bears team did it because of the 46 scheme. Not as much talent IMO. Once teams figured out the 46, game over.

Yep. Marino figured it out. Unfortunately, we were robbed of a Marino-Bears II Super Bowl. But the Bears had to beat Phil "The Epitomy of a Game Manager" Sims and Dieter "Who?" Brock to get to the Super Bowl. Yeah, those two quarterbacks strike fear in the hearts of Bears defenders. :rolleyes:
 

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By not taking the step forward I expected. I liked Wilson last year. I wanted to see him mature as a legitimate pocket passer. I didn't see that. He's a very fortunate player with a supporting cast that conceals his weaknesses.

Take away Dez and Jason Witten from Romo, and you'll see what Russell Wilson had to deal with while his top 2 receiving threats were gone for the entire year.
 

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Take away Dez and Jason Witten from Romo, and you'll see what Russell Wilson had to deal with while his top 2 receiving threats were gone for the entire year.

Wilson would still have a lot better run game than romo
 

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All I kept thinking as the game progressed is what would happen if Romo played a game like Manning did tonight.

And I am hardly a person that seeks out a chance to excuse Romo from responsibility.

That's how it works. Choke artist Peyton BSed his way thru the post game interviews and basically received a pass from the "can't ask goat questions media"
 

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I'm not impressed by Wilson. I think he took a little step back this year but has such a strong supporting cast it didn't matter.

You put him on the Cowboys and he'd be a train wreck.

He led his team to a title. When the pocket closed on him he maneuvered around and attained a 1st down. Plays smart football level head not turning the ball over. He played the best defenses down the stretch and kept his team in front 90% of the time. I like Romo a little better but Wilson is young and so far the Seahawks love the cap friendly deal. Wilson has something special. It is called intangibles.
 

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Take away Dez and Jason Witten from Romo, and you'll see what Russell Wilson had to deal with while his top 2 receiving threats were gone for the entire year.

Take half the talent off the Seahawks, remove the head coach's authority to do his job and make them play in an art gallery and you'll see what Romo has had to deal with his entire career.
 

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No, not even close. The most dominating front seven in the History of the NFL was the Fearsome Foursome, the Purple Gang, the Steel Curtain and the Doomsday Defense, all were more talented then the Bears front seven in 85, IMO. That 85 Bears team did it because of the 46 scheme. Not as much talent IMO. Once teams figured out the 46, game over.

The late 1960's & 1970's The Purple PeopleEaters. Rams Vikes Cowboys and Steelers....All these lines had 4-5 HOF linemen and capable linebackers
 

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The late 1960's & 1970's The Purple PeopleEaters. Rams Viles Cowboys and Steelers....All these lines had 4-5 HOF linemen and capable linebackers

True but the rules were different, you could hit a so called defensless WR and intemidate them with big hit to the head or where ever. What impressed me about the Seahawks defense was the fact they went up aginst the best offense in the league and shut them down even with the way the rules are now days. I expected Seahawk to win the game going in thinking their defense was great but what they did in that game was jaw dropping
 

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True but the rules were different, you could hit a so called defensless WR and intemidate them with big hit to the head or where ever. What impressed me about the Seahawks defense was the fact they went up aginst the best offense in the league and shut them down even with the way the rules are now days. I expected Seahawk to win the game going in thinking their defense was great but what they did in that game was jaw dropping

it was a totally different game late hits happened 3 times a possession. You want the ball over the middle prepare your head for a concussion. You can't get open early...know your QB will get bent backwards as he throws it. And then some. Two guys landing on the QB 3 seconds after he throws it? how about a 10 yards out of bounds jack to your face. lol Intimidation ruled.
 

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it was a totally different game late hits happened 3 times a possession. You want the ball over the middle prepare your head for a concussion. You can't get open early...know your QB will get bent backwards as he throws it. And then some. Two guys landing on the QB 3 seconds after he throws it? how about a 10 yards out of bounds jack to your face. lol Intimidation ruled.

No doubt, I was drooling just reading your response. lol To me is says alot about the Seahawks defense given how close to the vest the NFL calls penalties yet they remained aggressive and hard hitting. They allowed few yards after catch as someone was their to put the hit on the reciever. It was just a very impressive showing by the Seahawks defense I have to say as a defensive guy I enjoyed watching it.
 

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By not taking the step forward I expected. I liked Wilson last year. I wanted to see him mature as a legitimate pocket passer. I didn't see that. He's a very fortunate player with a supporting cast that conceals his weaknesses.

He looked mature to me. The improvement in the numbers should show that. Like I said he didn't have Harvin and Rice for most of the year and was throwing to guys like Baldwin, Tate, Kearse and still throwing for more yards, TDs. Yeah he made strides. And what QB that is successful doesn't have a good supporting cast. Tell me one QB that won and won big without a supporting cast.
 

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No doubt, I was drooling just reading your response. lol To me is says alot about the Seahawks defense given how close to the vest the NFL calls penalties yet they remained aggressive and hard hitting. They allowed few yards after catch as someone was their to put the hit on the reciever. It was just a very impressive showing by the Seahawks defense I have to say as a defensive guy I enjoyed watching it.

I was drooling watching the potential for a modern day defense when I saw Seattle play with Manning like they are opening Christmas toys at age 9
 
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it was a totally different game late hits happened 3 times a possession. You want the ball over the middle prepare your head for a concussion. You can't get open early...know your QB will get bent backwards as he throws it. And then some. Two guys landing on the QB 3 seconds after he throws it? how about a 10 yards out of bounds jack to your face. lol Intimidation ruled.

Remember what Turkey Jones did to Terry Bradshaw?

A guy would get thrown in jail if he did that today.
 

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No, I don't think the Seahawks are the greatest defense. I do think they had one of the best defensive performances in a single Super Bowl/title game.
 

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The late 1960's & 1970's The Purple PeopleEaters. Rams Vikes Cowboys and Steelers....All these lines had 4-5 HOF linemen and capable linebackers

Yes, that Vikings "Purple Gang" Defense is very underrated and over looked when you talk about all time great defenses. From 1969 - 1971, that defense averaged 9.8 points a game defensively. Three straight years ranked #1 in the NFL. That team was possibly the greatest defense in the History of the NFL.

Carl Eller, Alan Page, Jim Marshall, Gary Larsen, Wally Hilgenberg, Roy Winston, Lonnie Warwick, Ed Sharockman, Carl Gersbach, Bobby Bryant, Charlie West, Earsell MackBee, Karl Kaussulke and Paul Krause were flat out tough.
 

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Take half the talent off the Seahawks, remove the head coach's authority to do his job and make them play in an art gallery and you'll see what Romo has had to deal with his entire career.

I'm not saying that Romo doesn't have his own problems to deal with, but you're making an unfair assessment about Wilson's productivity when both of his top 2 targets were out the entire year, and he still managed to overcome it.
 

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I'm not saying that Romo doesn't have his own problems to deal with, but you're making an unfair assessment about Wilson's productivity when both of his top 2 targets were out the entire year.

Even if they were healthy, it isn't as if they are great receivers. Harvin is a great athlete and can do multiple things, but as a pure receiver he isn't that great.
 

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I'm not saying that Romo doesn't have his own problems to deal with, but you're making an unfair assessment about Wilson's productivity when both of his top 2 targets were out the entire year.

Wilson's team has a defense, Romo's team does not. You give that Seattle defense to Romo and he will be much better than 8-8. Besides, it's stupid for these kind of debates because Wilson is one man, and Romo is one man.

It takes the whole 53 to win a game.
 
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