Best team of all time?

[kskboys]

You’re completely dreaming. Manhandling the 85 Bears defense? Lol Our OL outweighed everyone but we still had a few games we struggled to run the ball during the 92 season. Emmitt only had 62 yards on 26 carries against Denver that season. That comes out to under 3 yards a carry. He had under 4 yards a carry in week two against the Giants. That game turned into a dogfight. No one could run against the 85 Bears.

We would've completely shut down their O. Two sides to the ball.

 

[kskboys]

My point was no one’s OL was going to “manhandle” the 85 Bears defensive front. I get this is a Cowboys fan board but let’s be real.

We manhandled Philly's D front, and the SF Dfront was no joke.

I get you're a Bears fan, but let's be real.

 

[stuckindc]

The 86 Giants were pretty damn good. That defense was legit

 

[KJJ]

The 85 Bears were the cockiest team ever. Their Super Bowl shuffle video was recorded two months before they won the Super Bowl. Oddly enough, the video was recorded the day after their only loss that season to Miami.

 

[KJJ]

The 86 Giants were pretty damn good. That defense was legit

They absolutely destroyed Joe Montana and San Francisco 49-3 in the playoffs. They knocked Montana out of the game. He was barely able to walk off the field. Probably wondering if anyone got the license plate number of the truck that hit him.

 

[MarcusRock]

The Bears division was not stacked like the NFC Beast with the Eagles, Giants who won SB in 1990, and Commanders in 1991.

Plus Aikman and Smith elevated their play in the playoffs. Thus, their playoff stats are better than regular season ones.

You're right but the Giants were 6-10 that year. Still, the Cowboys didn't sweep their division which is a feat that even lesser Cowboy teams have done. The metric is team over a season. But if you want to talk about playoff performance, the '85 Bears only giving up 10 points in the entire playoffs (2 shutouts and 10 to the Pats in the SB) is a record that still stands for teams that have played at least 3 playoff games. Still stands. From 1985. That's 38 years.

 

[MarcusRock]

They absolutely destroyed Joe Montana and San Francisco 49-3 in the playoffs. They knocked Montana out of the game. He was barely able to walk off the field. Probably wondering if anyone got the license plate number of the truck that hit him.

Precisely why I give a bigger nod to QBs of the past compared to now. I think Aaron Rodgers is the best QB I've seen when it comes to pure QB play. However, if he were allowed to take hits like this, he would have not had as long a career as he's had. This here would be a personal foul for hitting a QB in a defenseless throwing posture by today's rules..

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Emmitt has better playoff stats than Payton.

Higher YPC, yards per game, and TDs per game.

Emmitt also has more rushing yards and rushing TDs.

Ok. Walter Payton was either the best RB of all time....or fighting with Barry or Jim Brown for the title.

Everyone knows this. It's like comparing Michael Irvin to Jerry Rice.... or Karl Malone to Michael Jordon.

There's great....and then there's the best ever....TALENT wise.

 

[Legend]

Ok. Walter Payton was either the best RB of all time....or fighting with Barry or Jim Brown for the title.

Everyone knows this. It's like comparing Michael Irvin to Jerry Rice.... or Karl Malone to Michael Jordon.

There's great....and then there's the best ever....TALENT wise.

Emmitt’s playoff stats were better than Barry’s too.

Barry’s yards per game in the playoffs dropped from 100+ in regular season to below 70 in the post season.

Barry did not elevate his play during the playoffs and in one wild card game rushed for -1 yards on 13 carries after rushing for 188 yards against the same opponent late in the regular season.

This is similar to Romo and Dak. They have better looking regular season stats than Aikman. But in the playoffs they cannot get it done.

Karl Malone is like Barry Sanders. Both have no rings.

Emmitt (3-0) is like Jordan (6-0) except the GM let go of the Bulls coach later in their championship run while the Cowboys coach was let go earlier in their championship run.

Did Walter or Jim ever win a rushing title, NFL MVP, SB, and SB MVP in the same season?

 

[Legend]

My point was no one’s OL was going to “manhandle” the 85 Bears defensive front. I get this is a Cowboys fan board but let’s be real.

What about Irvin, Harper, and Novacek in the passing game?



What about special teams?

 

[JW82]

Might be a little too early to tell, but top 3 for sure.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Emmitt’s playoff stats were better than Barry’s too.

Barry’s yards per game in the playoffs dropped from 100+ in regular season to below 70 in the post season.

Barry did not elevate his play during the playoffs and in one wild card game rushed for -1 yards on 13 carries after rushing for 188 yards against the same opponent late in the regular season.

This is similar to Romo and Dak. They have better looking regular season stats than Aikman. But in the playoffs they cannot get it done.

Karl Malone is like Barry Sanders. Both have no rings.

Emmitt (3-0) is like Jordan (6-0) except the GM let go of the Bulls coach later in their championship run while the Cowboys coach was let go earlier in their championship run.

Did Walter or Jim ever win a rushing title, NFL MVP, SB, and SB MVP in the same season?

If you're going to sit here and argue Emmit was a better RB than Jim Brown or Walter Payton....I think we just see the world differently.

For all I know, Troy Aikman may have better "stats" than Joe Montana. Wait....forget I said that. I feel a "well yeah, Aikman WAS as good as Montana. Just look at his stats" argument coming from you.

Nevermind

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

If you're going to sit here and argue Emmit was a better RB than Jim Brown or Walter Payton....I think we just see the world differently.

For all I know, Troy Aikman may have better "stats" than Joe Montana. Wait....forget I said that. I feel a "well yeah, Aikman WAS as good as Montana. Just look at his stats" argument coming from you.

Nevermind

I mean....even in THIS place....I can't believe nobody else in here is telling you to ease off the Emmitt (behind best OLine maybe ever) is a better RB than Walter or Jim Brown. Good GRIEF that's silly!

 

[shabazz]

I’ll list it by greatest teams of the decades .

1. Steelers 70’s- most dominating team in my lifetime
2. Browns- 40’s & 50’s- 7 championships
2. Packers- 60’s- 5 NFL titles
3. 49ers - 80’s- 4 Rings
4. Cowboys 90’s- 1st team to win 3 out of 4 SB
5. Cowboys 70’s- 5 Super Bowls , 2 Rings and 7 champ appearances
6. Dolphins - 70’s - 3 consecutive SB’s, back to back Rings
7. Wash 80’s - 3 SB rings
8. Raiders- 70’s and early 80’s- 3 SB rings
9. 70’s Vikings and 90’s Bills best to not win a SB with both 4 SB losses
10. Patriots - Best of Cap era dominating 2 decades 2000 & 2010’s with 6 SB rings

Sad that the 90s Bills aren’t in any conversation…….amazing feat for a team to go 4 SuperBowls in a row

They had 2 legit superstars in Bruce Smith and Jim Kelly and many others.

Unfortunately for them they had to play all four super bowls against the NFC East

it’s a hard luck town……the Sabers are the longest standing franchise to never win a Stanley Cup…..53 years and counting.

 

[KJJ]

Precisely why I give a bigger nod to QBs of the past compared to now. I think Aaron Rodgers is the best QB I've seen when it comes to pure QB play. However, if he were allowed to take hits like this, he would have not had as long a career as he's had. This here would be a personal foul for hitting a QB in a defenseless throwing posture by today's rules..

Rules are making it a lot easier for QBs to avoid hits like that. That hit today would draw a penalty, no doubt about it and possibly an ejection. The hit may have been to the shoulder, but in real time it looks close to the head and neck area. The violence of the hit would’ve drawn a flag. No replay on those type of hits to the QB today, to the QB today they go by what they see on the field.

 

[KJJ]

What about Irvin, Harper, and Novacek in the passing game?



What about special teams?

Aikman still would have needed enough time to throw and he wasn’t having to throw a lot. Even Dan Marino took three sacks and threw a pick against the 85 Bears. It’s not like Aikman never took a few hits in his career. He would’ve been facing the brunt of that 85 Bears pass rush. Not saying the 92 Cowboys couldn’t have beaten them, but it would’ve been tough. Great defenses usually come out on top against great offenses and that still holds up today.

 

[MarcusRock]

They had the all-time greatest defense, but their offense wasn’t all that special. Jim McMahon was an average QB and Walter Payton was past his prime. Although they only lost one game, they got cut up pretty bad by Dan Marino. The Bears were dominated in that game. The Dolphins should be at the top. They’re the only team in NFL history to have a perfect season.

I'm agreeing with you for the most part in this thread but per capita, Payton in 1985 at age 32 had arguably a better season than Emmitt in 1992 at age 23.

Emmitt was a 1,700+ rusher with a 4.6 avg.
Payton was a 1,500+ rusher with a 4.8 avg.

Emmitt caught 59 balls for 335 yards (5.7 avg.)
Payton caught 49 balls for 483 yards (9.9 avg.)

Emmitt total yards from scrimmage: 2,048 (4.7 yds. per touch)
Payton total yards from scrimmage: 2,034 (5.5 yds. per touch)

 

[Legend]

I'm agreeing with you for the most part in this thread but per capita, Payton in 1985 at age 32 had arguably a better season than Emmitt in 1992 at age 23.

Emmitt was a 1,700+ rusher with a 4.6 avg.
Payton was a 1,500+ rusher with a 4.8 avg.

Emmitt caught 59 balls for 335 yards (5.7 avg.)
Payton caught 49 balls for 483 yards (9.9 avg.)

Emmitt total yards from scrimmage: 2,048 (4.7 yds. per touch)
Payton total yards from scrimmage: 2,034 (5.5 yds. per touch)

Now look at their playoff stats.

Walter: 67 carries 186 yards 2.8 YPC 0 TDs
Emmitt: 71 carries 336 yards 4.7 YPC 3 TDs

 

[Legend]

Aikman still would have needed enough time to throw and he wasn’t having to throw a lot. Even Dan Marino took three sacks and threw a pick against the 85 Bears. It’s not like Aikman never took a few hits in his career. He would’ve been facing the brunt of that 85 Bears pass rush. Not saying the 92 Cowboys couldn’t have beaten them, but it would’ve been tough. Great defenses usually come out on top against great offenses and that still holds up today.

The 1992 Cowboys had #1 D too and would have shut the Bears offense down



The 1992 Cowboys offense was balanced. Could kill you fast with the pass or slow with the run game.

You are giving the Bears D too much credit.

Aikman and Smith elevated their play in the postseason.

 

[Legend]

I mean....even in THIS place....I can't believe nobody else in here is telling you to ease off the Emmitt (behind best OLine maybe ever) is a better RB than Walter or Jim Brown. Good GRIEF that's silly!

If you look at the stats especially Walter’s, Brown’s, and Sander’s playoff stats versus Emmitt’s.

Emmitt has the most rushing yards and TDs in both the regular season and post season.

Emmitt’s YPC, rushing yards per game, and TDs per game are higher than Sander’s, Brown’s, and Payton’s in the playoffs.

Emmitt’s YPC and rushing yards per game in the playoffs are higher than his regular season ones.

Emmitt also has more SB rings and a SB MVP.

Emmitt is one of two players to score 1000 points in a career.