Better Cowboys team, 2007 or 2014

[LittleBoyBlue]

It's a wash. 2007 defense was better. 2014 offense was better. Both teams faced shaky calls by the refs - 2007 #itwasnotintentionalgrounding, 2014 #itwasacatch. Neither team got the job done.

It was intentional.
I hate that it was...,but it was... Bad decision by tony.

 

[DFWJC]

The 2007 OL isn't better. Romo would be slower in his reactions, his scrambling, and his deep ball isn't as strong as his 2007 self. And of course, he has his back probs to contend with. Smarts better yes, everything else no.

Romo's made all sorts of mechanical improvements since then, but yes, his actual body was more sturdy back then.
But 2007 was only his second year as a starter. Even though he still had a very strong season, he had more than twice as many interceptions that year.

Both years he threw what could have been the game winning TD pass only to see it not be officially caught or count as caught.
Crayton dropped a wide open one and later stopped a route on the last drive vs NY.
Doubt that tea would beat NE anyway. The Giants defense held them to 14....no way we could do that.

Dez and Tony just got screwed vs GB

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Romo's made all sorts of mechanical improvements since then, but yes, his actual body was more sturdy back then.
But 2007 was only his second year as a starter. Even though he still had a very strong season, he had more than twice as many interceptions that year.

Both years he threw what could have been the game winning TD pass only to see it not be officially caught or count as caught.
Crayton dropped a wide open one and later stopped a route on the last drive vs NY.
Doubt that tea would beat NE anyway. The Giants defense held them to 14....no way we could do that.

Dez and Tony just got screwed vs GB

As I said before, 2 years ago Romo had 19 ints, same as 2007.

 

[DFWJC]

As I said before, 2 years ago Romo had 19 ints, same as 2007.

The thread is asking about 2007 and 2014 specifically

 

[DFWJC]

Well I'm sure the OL had some to do with that (pressure getting to him). The 2012 Romo also had 19 ints. But yes his knowledge of the game showed last year.

That 2012 line was a total sieve, as you know. Dude was running for his life all year.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

The thread is asking about 2007 and 2014 specifically

But posters here comment that an inexperienced 2007 Romo threw 19 ints. But an experienced Romo also threw that amount 2 years ago. What's the difference? And as I said, Romo WON'T have our 2014 OL too buy him time on that 2007 team. So the int's may well be the same with his lesser arm strength, mobility, and lack of ol.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

That 2012 line was a total sieve, as you know. Dude was running for his life all year.

He's ALWAYS running for his life. But his smarts are what separates him from 2007, or fans here say.

 

[CyberB0b]

But posters here comment that an inexperienced 2007 Romo threw 19 ints. But an experienced Romo also threw that amount 2 years ago. What's the difference? And as I said, Romo WON'T have our 2014 OL too buy him time on that 2007 team. So the int's may well be the same with his lesser arm strength, mobility, and lack of ol.

He threw it 128 more times in 2012 than 2007.

 

[DFWJC]

But posters here comment that an inexperienced 2007 Romo threw 19 ints. But an experienced Romo also threw that amount 2 years ago. What's the difference? And as I said, Romo WON'T have our 2014 OL too buy him time on that 2007 team. So the int's may well be the same with his lesser arm strength, mobility, and lack of ol.

I was saying the difference was the a very good Oline in 2007 and an epically bad one in 2012. Also, I think the WRs were way more reliable route-runners is 2007. More attempts in 2007 as well.
Jmo
The 19 picks in 2007 were worse than the same in 2012 given the team around him. No run game, no line, no defense in 2012...the guy was on an island.

Unlike some, he still had way more TDs than picks those years. But 19 was still too high...almost Eli-like.

 

[DFWJC]

He's ALWAYS running for his life. But his smarts are what separates him from 2007, or fans here say.

I agree, he's more savvy now

 

[AdamJT13]

It was intentional.
I hate that it was...,but it was... Bad decision by tony.

It was intentionally thrown incomplete. But it was not intentional grounding.

The rule states, "It is a foul for intentional grounding if a passer, facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense, throws a forward pass without a realistic chance of completion."

The key part, in this case, is "facing an imminent loss of yardage because of pressure from the defense." Romo had a clear pocket and was not under pressure. It should not have been called a penalty.

 

[rockj7]

A few days ago, I was having a debate with a friend of mine who is also a Boys fan. He insisted that the 2007 team was far superior than our 2014 team. I disagreed for the following reasons;

-Better coaching

-Better QB play

-Better O-Line/Run game

I will admit that defense was far superior than this past years, but I just had that feeling that we could beat any team if we played our best ball. I felt like we would have no chance vs the undefeated Pats.


What do you guys think?

Who would have thought a year or two years ago a list would start with Better Coaching

 

[Blackspider214]

2014. One reason was because how we finished. You felt confident about going into the playoffs. 2007 was the total opposite. Finished the year losing 2 of 3. December was a very ugly month for that team. December was a giant success for 2014. I thought Romo was much better last year as well as a complete player. Only threw one pick on the road the entire season. Neither defense was that good. OL play was better for 2014.

Garrett was much better in 2014, too. He finally learned as a coach. Also, we went into the playoffs with what got us there. In 2007, we for some reason started our 2nd half back and wore him down. And became a methodical, TOP, milk the clock team in the Giants game. Total opposite from what we were in the regular season. We just completely botched the game from the jump with that strategy. I think the coaches were much to blame. Gameplan was solid for GB. Just didn't execute a few plays.

Oh and Crayton's drop on that 3rd down = Murray's fumble. Both had nothing but green in front of them.

Then crayton slows up on that last possession, too on an easy TD.

 

[Titleist]

With regards to 2007, that was NOT intentional grounding. Honestly, I'm more mad about that call 8 years ago than I am about the "no-catch" (but that was totally a catch).

 

[Boyzmamacita]

It was intentional.
I hate that it was...,but it was... Bad decision by tony.

I thought he was out of the pocket.

 

[Little Jr]

I don't know about better but 07 was the team that had the best chance of winning it all that yr since the 95 team. We were clearly the best team in the nfc and 2nd in the nfl. 14 we weren't clearly better than than sea or gb or even ne.

 

[CF74]

Tough one:
Romo was better in 2007 at least physically, he's more calculated today but that was forced by injury.
Receivers better 2014
RB better 2014
O-line better 2014 but not by much, it was good till late 2009.
Defense had a better pass rush 2007
DBs better 2014 but not by much
LBs better 2014
STs better 2014

 

[burmafrd]

Tough one:
Romo was better in 2007 at least physically, he's more calculated today but that was forced by injury.
Receivers better 2014
RB better 2014
O-line better 2014 but not by much, it was good till late 2009.
Defense had a better pass rush 2007
DBs better 2014 but not by much
LBs better 2014
STs better 2014

\wow you really are out to lunch if you think just about anything in 2014 was better on D. ro was our best LB last year and he was about the only starter on D outside of Scandrick that would be starting in 2007.

On offense- until his Injury TO was a monster. And Witten was having his usual top season. to be blunt while I really dislike Crayton he was better then anyone else this last season outside of Dez. And Dez was not as good as TO was that season. Our Running Game was pretty good with both Julius and MB. Not as good as last year but not that far off. And MB's power was something we have not had since. The O line was not as good at Run Blocking but was overall better at pass blocking until they got wore out and injuries started to show up.

So yes 2007 was overall a better team- but it was starting to Fade. this team is on the rise if we can improve our D. anyone trying to compare the 2007 D to last years is really smoking something strong.

 

[Silver N Blue]

I see why the OP has this comparison but for me I compare last years team to 91. Both teams have been built similarly thanks to Red and for me what happened after 07....absolutely nothing. Several on here debated this point last year. So for me once we get the rb situation figured out this team could be right there with those teams talent wise. As for last year and 07 the signature win was beating Farve that year. Last year going on the road and beating every single team trumped that team. This group right now is better.

 

[WillieBeamen]

After thinking about the topic more, I think Romos growth as a qb from then until now is a big difference as well. Romo was dead on when he said we would see the best of him in the coming years. I dont know if its the media perception of him, but I cant see the 2007 Romo going on the road to Lambeau against an undefeated team at home in the regular season and making a clutch throw on 4th and 2, that should have led to the go ahead score. What makes it difficult to definately put that 07 team ahead of the 14 one is the defense. Yes we lacked talent in most areas, our defense still wasnt the weakest link in a lot of our losses.