Better Cowboys team, 2007 or 2014

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Romo's made all sorts of mechanical improvements since then, but yes, his actual body was more sturdy back then.
But 2007 was only his second year as a starter. Even though he still had a very strong season, he had more than twice as many interceptions that year.

Both years he threw what could have been the game winning TD pass only to see it not be officially caught or count as caught.
Crayton dropped a wide open one and later stopped a route on the last drive vs NY.
Doubt that tea would beat NE anyway. The Giants defense held them to 14....no way we could do that.

Dez and Tony just got screwed vs GB

You know I like romo so don't take it the wrong way

That was a great throw and great play by tony but a bad decision
 

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2014>2007 by a mile

Better coaching
Far more mature team
More attitude and intestinal fortitude and confidence
Great OL, Dez and Murray
 

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A few days ago, I was having a debate with a friend of mine who is also a Boys fan. He insisted that the 2007 team was far superior than our 2014 team. I disagreed for the following reasons;

-Better coaching

-Better QB play

-Better O-Line/Run game

I will admit that defense was far superior than this past years, but I just had that feeling that we could beat any team if we played our best ball. I felt like we would have no chance vs the undefeated Pats.


What do you guys think?

I'm more concerned about the 2015 team.

The 2015 team has the potential to be better depending on healthy. They are adding Hardy and Lee to the 2014 defense. In theory RoMc should be in better condition. DLawrence is in his 2nd year. The overall dept at LB is much better. The DT position has the potential to be better with Brent/Bishop. Crawford will be in his 2nd year of playing the key 3tech position. Wilcox was not a full time starter until 2014 so he should be better. As of this minute Carr is still on the team and should not be any worse than last season. There is a good chance to upgrade his position is the draft. The CB from NO looks like an upgrade from Moore.

The offense did lose Murray and Parnell; however, Zack Martin will be in his 2nd year and Leary/Fred in their 3rd years so the OL could be even better if Doug the Slug can hold up his end of the deal. A high draft pick at RB is possible and McFadden behind this OL could be exciting.
 

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\wow you really are out to lunch if you think just about anything in 2014 was better on D. ro was our best LB last year and he was about the only starter on D outside of Scandrick that would be starting in 2007.

On offense- until his Injury TO was a monster. And Witten was having his usual top season. to be blunt while I really dislike Crayton he was better then anyone else this last season outside of Dez. And Dez was not as good as TO was that season. Our Running Game was pretty good with both Julius and MB. Not as good as last year but not that far off. And MB's power was something we have not had since. The O line was not as good at Run Blocking but was overall better at pass blocking until they got wore out and injuries started to show up.

So yes 2007 was overall a better team- but it was starting to Fade. this team is on the rise if we can improve our D. anyone trying to compare the 2007 D to last years is really smoking something strong.

You are entitled to your little opinion even though you're wrong but whateves. 2007 had a better Pass Rush and that made a difference at times but Jacque Reeves vs Carr or Scandrick 2014, no way.. Our LB core in 2014 was a force. The inside LB's in 2007 were always a liability in coverage, the outside was Ware and Spencer but they mostly rushed the passer. Comparing 4-3 LB's to 3-4 LB's is kind of a mixed bag. 2007 ILB's were good against the run though but a constant liability in coverage, especially Brady James. 2014 Dez is better than 2007 TO. Murray was plenty powerful in 2014 and he put up 800 more yards than the barbarian, get real mang..
 

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Huge mismatch comparing 2007 defense vs 2014.
I mean, that team had 46 sacks!
Ware, Spencer, Ellis, Canty, Ratliff etc circa 2007 were light years better than what we had in 2014.
Terrance Newman at corner was far better too. In 2007 he was one of the leagues best.
The safeties were better too. In 2007, Roy Williams was very good and so was Hamlin.
Witten in 2007 > Witten 2014
And actually, not much diff between TO in 2007 and Dez 2014 if you look closely.

But I really liked the efficiency of that 2014 offense with both the run and pass.
 
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It's a wash. 2007 defense was better. 2014 offense was better. Both teams faced shaky calls by the refs - 2007 #itwasnotintentionalgrounding, 2014 #itwasacatch. Neither team got the job done.

you forgot: #warewasn'toffsides- which brought the albatross into the building.

as for the OP- I think 2014 was the better team.

The 2007 team read its own press clippings, got complacent, and never heated up again (I believe it would have had we escaped the NYG, a team the Cowboys were much much better than.)

The 2014 team played with a cornered fury especially against teams noone gave them a chance against, and stomped out some very respectable opponents in spectacular fashion.

The 2014 team was the '79 Orioles- falling just short of an unexpected title, but blew a 3-1 lead to the Pirates.

The 2007 team was the '90 Oakland A's, sans a championship the year prior.
 
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A few days ago, I was having a debate with a friend of mine who is also a Boys fan. He insisted that the 2007 team was far superior than our 2014 team. I disagreed for the following reasons;

-Better coaching

-Better QB play

-Better O-Line/Run game

I will admit that defense was far superior than this past years, but I just had that feeling that we could beat any team if we played our best ball. I felt like we would have no chance vs the undefeated Pats.


What do you guys think?

2007 Cowboys had a weak schedule and were lucky enough to not have had any injuries. 2014 Cowboys had a consistent offense and a sucky defense. I would give the 2007 the edge.
 

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I loved last years team. I haven't been more proud.

In 07, you knew they were flimsy. It all came to a brutal head week 17 in 2008.
 

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you can really tell who actually WATCHED both teams by the comments.
2007 was the better team overall and it was not really that close. The offense was second only to NE; and the D was better. That year the D really had it all together; Ellis had a career year as did Ware really. TNew was on form and was a top 5 CB. Hamlin played superbly that year as well. What you had was a number of players having career years all at the same time.
It was those injuries that took us down; that and a couple of SOBs dropping passes and quiting on routes. the Giants were on a roll but no one realized it until that game. Many giants after the season flat out said we were tougher to beat thn NE was in the SB.
 

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2007 was considerably better. But the team just wasn't mentally as tough.

It was actually a younger team than most seem to remember, and that was kind of the problem. Romo was 27, Witten and Ware were 25.

But TO was in his 30s. Greg Ellis was in his 30s (guys who were rumored to be bad character guys) And most of the veteran lineman were hired guns. You didn't have the old salty veterans on the team to keep players focused, and Wade sure as he'll wasn't going to do it. Then Even Garrett was pretty inexperienced as an OC.

Excellent post
 

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2014 was better because they played a style that was more conducive to winning in the postseason and the QB was more experienced.


2014 was better because they played a style that was more conducive to winning in the postseason and the QB was more experienced. Rod Marinelli.
 

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2014 was better because they played a style that was more conducive to winning in the postseason and the QB was more experienced.


2014 was better because they played a style that was more conducive to winning in the postseason and the QB was more experienced. Rod Marinelli.

This lol.
 

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you can really tell who actually WATCHED both teams by the comments.
2007 was the better team overall and it was not really that close. The offense was second only to NE; and the D was better. That year the D really had it all together; Ellis had a career year as did Ware really. TNew was on form and was a top 5 CB. Hamlin played superbly that year as well. What you had was a number of players having career years all at the same time.
It was those injuries that took us down; that and a couple of SOBs dropping passes and quiting on routes. the Giants were on a roll but no one realized it until that game. Many giants after the season flat out said we were tougher to beat thn NE was in the SB.

The offense in 2014 was better imo than 2007. We averaged more ppg, had less turnovers, and the highest rated passer in the league.
 

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2007. That 2007 team was the 2nd best team in the NFL. We were 13 - 3 and had homefield adavantadge througout the entire playoffs. We had already beaten the eventual Super Bowl champs TWICE! We lost in the divisional round at home to the Giants (who went on to win the Super Bowl). We beat the Giants in every statistical category that game except the scoreboard. Penalites and special teams were a little shaky in that game...but from TOP, to TO differential, to passing yards, to rushing yards...we really had no business losing that game. And we would have played Green Bay the following week in Dallas...and we had already beaten them that year as well. That 2007 team was a LOCK to go to the Super Bowl.

Not to mention we played almost th entire season without Terry Glenn. He came back I think for the last 2 games of the regular season and the playoffs. If TO does not get hurt in Carolina...that team yawns it's way into the Super Bowl. The 2014 Cowboys lost to Green Bay in the playoffs in a close one...but if Dez is hurt...like TO was in 2007.....the game is not even a contest.
 

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The offense in 2014 was better imo than 2007. We averaged more ppg, had less turnovers, and the highest rated passer in the league.

I think the 2014 style of play was more conducive to winning than 2007.

2007 was a big play offense that had trouble manufacturing points when teams committed to taking that away... Or at least when they tried. Owens had trouble with press coverage, and it started to show late that season when the Eagles best us at home.

That said, that offense probably would have been better statistically if they didn't start every game like they just rolled out of bed and got to the stadium after half of the seats were filled.

They were just naturally that good. There didn't seem to be a lot of effort in what they did-- they just "did".

And all that missing a very legitimate number 2 option in Terry Glenn. Most seem to forget that.
 

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I think the 2014 style of play was more conducive to winning than 2007.

2007 was a big play offense that had trouble manufacturing points when teams committed to taking that away... Or at least when they tried. Owens had trouble with press coverage, and it started to show late that season when the Eagles best us at home.

That said, that offense probably would have been better statistically if they didn't start every game like they just rolled out of bed and got to the stadium after half of the seats were filled.

They were just naturally that good. There didn't seem to be a lot of effort in what they did-- they just "did".

And all that missing a very legitimate number 2 option in Terry Glenn. Most seem to forget that.

You make some good points but how can that offense be better when in 2014:

The qb was better

Runnig back was better

Play calling was a lot better

Offensive Line was better


The receiving corps in 2007 was better than 2014 but to me thats where it stops. Our offense last year could have been a big play offense as well but we chose a different style of offense.
 

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You make some good points but how can that offense be better when in 2014:

The qb was better

Runnig back was better

Play calling was a lot better

Offensive Line was better


The receiving corps in 2007 was better than 2014 but to me thats where it stops. Our offense last year could have been a big play offense as well but we chose a different style of offense.

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm still giving the edge to the 2014 team. Just thought I would bring up those points. I think the 07 offense could have put up more points than they did, but I prefer the "grind you out/control the game" approach of 2014. I thought we had the best offense in the league because of it thought he numbers won't support it. Just overall could probably get the job done more ways than any other offense.
 

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2007 was hands down the better team, but the weak willed coach was satisfied with getting a bye weak and it seemed to carry over to the team who were facing an opponent they had already beaten twice before that season.
 
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