Better To Bite The Bullet Than Extend Dak

[TheCritic]

If the Cowboys do extend Dak, I seriously hope Dak is smart and take the hometown discount. At least it would show that he is willing to allow the Cowboys some wiggle room to acquire more talent. If he doesn't then you know if Dak isn't serious about a SB ring.

 

[stiletto]

 

[Flamma]

I wouldn’t pony up the money strictly based on the team results to financial responsibility ratio. Given Dak’s numbers, which are good, he’ll set the market and unintentionally handcuff (at least per poor Jerry) the team from getting help from anywhere but the draft (this year’s group is doing a bang up job so far) and the has-been bargain basement. I envision a rinse and repeat next year.

Grass isn’t always geeener on the other side, but dang…sometimes you just go to the other side just for a change.

Based on the cap and the players coming up for extension, It's not going to work moving on from Dak. Dallas can't absorb a 60M cap hit. The other choice is a 30M cap hit for two years for a QB not on the team.

 

[stiletto]

If the Cowboys do extend Dak, I seriously hope Dak is smart and take the hometown discount.

That's not happening, his agent is top $$ at all times. It's already happened or Dak would've done a better deal last time. The brain trust has a lot to weigh....

 

[InPhiltraitor]

Based on the cap and the players coming up for extension, It's not going to work moving on from Dak. Dallas can't absorb a 60M cap hit. The other choice is a 30M cap hit for two years for a QB not on the team.

I wouldn’t advocate letting him go now. I’d just let this contract run out and then move on.

 

[stiletto]

Not once have I heard a viable succession plan for moving on from Dak. I guess cutting him loose, going 4-13 and hoping to get a good player in the 2025 draft is the plan? LOL.

Trey Lance is LITERALLY the plan people are hanging their hats on. It'll be ok to not win the SB and be 5-12 as opposed to 12-5 because we don't win the SB either way. I honestly struggle. I remember the Campo years... I'd rather be in the game EVERY year and let if flesh out I think. Maybe take a down year here or there but not like 5-6 years!! I'm too old for that already and Jerruh has 35 on me.

 

[nightrain]

Trey Lance is LITERALLY the plan people are hanging their hats on. It'll be ok to not win the SB and be 5-12 as opposed to 12-5 because we don't win the SB either way. I honestly struggle. I remember the Campo years... I'd rather be in the game EVERY year and let if flesh out I think. Maybe take a down year here or there but not like 5-6 years!! I'm too old for that already and Jerruh has 35 on me.

Trey Lance is going to get traded. He is the equivalent of pixie dust.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Trey Lance is LITERALLY the plan people are hanging their hats on. It'll be ok to not win the SB and be 5-12 as opposed to 12-5 because we don't win the SB either way. I honestly struggle. I remember the Campo years... I'd rather be in the game EVERY year and let if flesh out I think. Maybe take a down year here or there but not like 5-6 years!! I'm too old for that already and Jerruh has 35 on me.

5-12 gives you the chance to get a Joe Burrow type of player.

12-5 keeps you delusional that a loser like Dak just needs a little more luck.

 

[Kwyn]

Let Dak play out his contract and trade Micah Parsons + a 1 for the rights to draft the best qb in 2024 for the #1 overall pick to the Bears

the offer would need to be better than that. #1 overall has a ridiculous price tag.

 

[Kwyn]

5-12 gives you the chance to get a Joe Burrow type of player.

12-5 keeps you delusional that a loser like Dak just needs a little more luck.

5-12 gives you the third best QB in a draft.

Last I checked, Burrow was #1 overall and considered a generational talent coming out.

 

[stiletto]

5-12 gives you the third best QB in a draft.

Last I checked, Burrow was #1 overall and considered a generational talent coming out.

Still lost the Super Bowl....

 

[stiletto]

5-12 gives you the chance to get a Joe Burrow type of player.

12-5 keeps you delusional that a loser like Dak just needs a little more luck.

I actually admire your ability to stay on your path. You are like Joseph McCarthy. No in-between. It is what it is. I get it. Don't 100% agree with you but I see what you are saying. It shouldn't be lost on people.

 

[leeblair]

HES not going to get it done. lol

It is a team game.

With that type of thinking, shouldn't Dak be paid an equal salary to all of the other players?
The NFL pays quarterbacks higher for a reason. They are supposed to be the on-the-field version of the coach. Dak isn't that. He has shown improvement this season, but he has cost the Cowboys in every big game up until now. Until he shows he can be the leader that knows how to make the Cowboys better, he doesn't deserve top money.
Until now, everyone pointed to the $59 million cap hit he will cost the Cowboys next season as a reason to extend him now, but since top quarterbacks are projected to make $60 million and above, there is no reason to extend him.
Let him play his existing contract that has. I think he has two or three more years on it, and if he earns it, re-sign him to a long term deal then.
BUT HE HASN'T EARNED IT, YET.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

5-12 gives you the third best QB in a draft.

Last I checked, Burrow was #1 overall and considered a generational talent coming out.

Crap.

I guess we'd have to settle for Mahomes, Herbert, or Allen instead of Burrow.

 

[BoysForLife]

. Imagine if we actually had a running game.

Dak had the leagues leading rusher 2 of his first 3 years as starter. Just for the record

 

[stiletto]

Dak had the leagues leading rusher 2 of his first 3 years as starter. Just for the record

I don't think people should be giving Dak those excuses anymore. He's paid to NOT need a running game. For most of the season he hasn't needed it. Would be nice if he had a reliable one though....

 

[Kwyn]

Based on the cap and the players coming up for extension, It's not going to work moving on from Dak. Dallas can't absorb a 60M cap hit. The other choice is a 30M cap hit for two years for a QB not on the team.

There are three options

1) extend Dak and continue to play for a title in the current window which includes CeeDee and Micah with new deals as well.

2) cut Dak loose and sign a random free agent QB that will be a retread but still keep the rest of the team intact. Use the minimal savings you’re paying at QB to sign a non-pro bowl level NFL starter to a position of your choice.

3) burn it all down. Let Dak go. Trade Micah and CeeDee. Try to trade Diggs if you can. Full tank mode for a couple of years and pray you actually get a franchise QB who can actually deliver on the promise. Recent history shows this gives hope but no more of a guarantee than we have now. Likely a worse chance. You risk ten years of losing, but this is the path that many of the regulars around hear would welcome

That last option is actually almost a fetish for some types of fans who *love* being in perpetual rebuild mode because you always have hope, no matter how distant, and get to play career mode in Madden forever.

 

[leeblair]

If they do not extend Dak, then be prepared for a few years of misery.

First, they are projected to be over the CAP next year as it is. So they will need to make room somehow just to get under the CAP. Then they have a bunch of free agents they need to sign. They are not all great but they contribute to the defense. If they are not resigned JAGs will have to take their places. In other words, if they do not extend Dak to free up CAP room, be prepared for some losing seasons ahead just because of the talent they will lose and be unable to replace. Then when Dak is gone, it gets worse because they will not have a QB - unless somehow Trey Lance emerges to become something he is not right now. The time to bite the bullet with Dak was his last contract. Jerry never should have agreed to give him $40 million unless Dak was willing to make it for at least 6 years.

Keep in mind the Cowboys traded away their 4th, 5th and 6th round draft picks so re-tooling won't be easy either.

Maybe it makes no difference. If you believe they cannot win with Dak then what's the point of keeping him? Cut his contract and lose without him. But then who do you blame? The Cowboys success drafting players like CeeDee, Diggs, Micah. and even Dak means they have to pay for that success, which is the problem with the NFL salary CAP that penalizes teams that draft well.

The Cowboys are going to extend Dak because they really have no choice. The first time they resigned him they gave away all their leverage then pushed his CAP problem into voided years. At this point, they probably have to re-sign him.

If they do extend Dak, be prepared for the Cowboys to be mediocre the rest of your life.
Dak hasn't made the Cowboys better since he has been here; what makes you think he will now?

 

[Kwyn]

Crap.

I guess we'd have to settle for Mahomes, Herbert, or Allen instead of Burrow.

Well, one of those guys has won a Super Bowl. The other two are either already out of the playoffs or hoping for a wild card chance.

And I could provide a list of a dozen QBs taken with picks in the 3-10 spot that haven’t done anything at all. Many of them out of the league.

 

[stiletto]

If they do extend Dak, be prepared for the Cowboys to be mediocre the rest of your life.
Dak hasn't made the Cowboys better since he has been here; what makes you think he will now?

That's kind of a lie... Are you forgetting all the post Aikman years? Jerry lucked into Romo and Dak. There's NO WAY anyone is talking about this franchise if not for Romo or Dak. The Cowboy way is LONG GONE. Only reason the team is relevant is because of Romo and Dak. Otherwise 5-12 every year. Don't be dumb.

Until they lucked into Romo it was futility.

I mean it is NOT perfect but at least we got playoff games to Beeotch about.