Bi-polar Disorder or Intermittent Explosive Disorder

[coach steele]

Verdict, I feel bad correcting you here. One can be diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and not narsissistic personality disorder as they are two separate disorders (though under same cluster). Borderline personality disorder is treatable and Dialectic Behavioral Therapy (DBT) is the primary treatment. You are correct in saying that there is often comorbidity between bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder.


Slightly disagree as people can change. However, it often takes years of therapy. One also has to be motivated to change (so I agree with that point. The bottom line is that no one knows his medical/psychological history. We are all speculating. We are also reducing a person's behavior to a psychological diagnosis when there are many more complex factors that go into the purposeful need of behaviors.[/quote]

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Then there are all you perfect people out there, make some meds and diagnosis for that crap, you're the worse sickness known to mankind.

 

[coach steele]

Then there are all you perfect people out there, makes some meds and diagnosis for that crap, you're the worse sickness known to man.

Trying to follow you here. Are you saying that mental illnesses are socially constructed and should not be treated with therapy and/or medication? Or are you making the point that therapist are humans and fallible?

 

[Risen Star]

I thought this thread was about Jason Witten.

 

[zrinkill]

Then there are all you perfect people out there, makes some meds and diagnosis for that crap, you're the worse sickness known to man.

I know right?

For some reason they are unable to see what a hero guys like Hardy and Randle are.

Guys like Tony Romo, Jason Witten, Demarcus Ware .......... those guys make me sick.

Holier than thou preachy types.

 

[Risen Star]

wasn't our last Bi-Polar guy Demitrius Underwood?

all of this should have been known prior to the draft

I'm for surrounding Jerry with as many mentally ill people as possible.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Trying to follow you here. Are you saying that mental illnesses are socially constructed and should not be treated with therapy and/or medication? Or are you making the point that therapist are humans and fallible?

I'm saying whoever made the rules up in the first place are full of it. Nothing you believe in will last for tomorrow days. Grow up.

Goodell or whomever created and continue to judge thus enforce these rank stipulations are schmucks. You didn't see or hear of half these people hurting anyone yet you insist that they carry the cross from all these Scarlet Letterman.

 

[zrinkill]

Nothing you believe in will last for tomorrow days.

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[coach steele]

I'm saying whoever made the rules up in the first place are full of it.

I'm interested in knowing what your opinion is on the matter. Often, many are misinformed about diagnoses, treatment, and medication. Not claiming you are but appreciate independent thinkers who have adequate knowledge over a subject in order to debate. With that being said, having more knowledge over a subject (which I should have more knowledge in this case considering that this is my career and calling) makes me no better a human being.

 

[erod]

I don't think comparing Hardy to Gregory is fair at this point. Gregory is just not smart. Hardy displays a lack of compassion, remorse, and accountability. These are symptoms of mental health issues. Gregory is just a bad decision maker.

Intermittent explosive Disorder is when you can't control your emotions and Bi-polar makes a person feel like their invincible and can do anything without getting in trouble, when their manic.

Gregory is an idiot, Hardy is mentally ill. Not to excuse his behavior but he's a sick dude.

Gregory apparently scored off the chart on his Wonderlic.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Yep. Built-in excuses for everybody these days, whether you actually have the condition or not. You can pee where you want now, too. All bets are off.

It's no secret that once funding for mental heath care in the 80's was cut and hospitals were shut down that we started to see an increase in mental disorders.

I take it you've never dealt with mental disorder? It's not a built-in excuses and it's pretty sad you would classify people like that. I have had close friends who suffered from mental illness who have taken their lives over it.

Sorry you feel that way.

 

[mattjames2010]

I don't think comparing Hardy to Gregory is fair at this point. Gregory is just not smart. Hardy displays a lack of compassion, remorse, and accountability. These are symptoms of mental health issues. Gregory is just a bad decision maker.

Intermittent explosive Disorder is when you can't control your emotions and Bi-polar makes a person feel like their invincible and can do anything without getting in trouble, when their manic.

Gregory is an idiot, Hardy is mentally ill. Not to excuse his behavior but he's a sick dude.

What are you talking about? He has gone on record stating he was part of the problem that night. Show remorse? If he didn't do anything the media exaggerated, why is he going to fill "remorse"? If I was him and if what he said is true, I would have ran that girl's name through the dirt to the point she could hardly find a job outside of stripping and working the corner or leeching off another famous football player.

We have a bunch of internet psychologists and internet lawyers in here today, I see.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

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Control addicts.

 

[Verdict]

Verdict, I feel bad correcting you here. One can be diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and not narsissistic personality disorder as they are two separate disorders (though under same cluster). Borderline personality disorder is treatable and Dialectic Behavioral Therapy (DBT) is the primary treatment. You are correct in saying that there is often comorbidity between bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder.


Slightly disagree as people can change. However, it often takes years of therapy. One also has to be motivated to change (so I agree with that point. The bottom line is that no one knows his medical/psychological history. We are all speculating. We are also reducing a person's behavior to a psychological diagnosis when there are many more complex factors that go into the purposeful need of behaviors.

[/quote]

Coach, I appreciate the reply to my post. I am obviously am not a clinical psychologist but enjoy studying people and how they behave. Part of my job as a trial lawyer (who handles a lot of divorce cases) involves managing and dealing with difficult people, who are often afflicted with personality disorders. So thank you for the clarification of my earlier post, and I take no offense to it.

Having said that, and knowing that you are a clinical psychologist, do you enjoy making a stab at mentally evaluating the myriad of personalities on this board as much as I do? You have to be like a kid in a candy store reading all of the posts on this board.

 

[erod]

It's no secret that once funding for mental heath care in the 80's was cut and hospitals were shut down that we started to see an increase in mental disorders.

I take it you've never dealt with mental disorder? It's not a built-in excuses and it's pretty sad you would classify people like that. I have had close friends who suffered from mental illness who have taken their lives over it.

Sorry you feel that way.

Not at all. But I do believe it's used as a crutch by many that have simple behavioral issues, and that's not fair to the people who actually have serious mental health conditions. It's not a simple diagnosis, but it's incredibly convenient for Hardy right now, don't you think?

 

[DenCWBY]

No ........ you have to be more understanding than that.

We should resign Randle and Hardy .......... its the only thing to do in this situation ....... "sources" say they have mental problems ....... they need to work in a high paying job with millions of people counting on them.

I bet Rolando McClain has this also ........ that would explain everything bad he has ever done ...... sign him to a big contract right away.

True that. When I make a bad decision at work I just say "hey I have bi polar disorder". When I make a good decision, its all good. That's how I pass all my job reviews to keep work. No one knows what it is and they don't want to ask so keep riding that wave. If there's an issue. I just play the fight club card (like Ratliff) and they turn and walk away. Not that I'm a narcissist or anything.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Not at all. But I do believe it's used as a crutch by many that have simple behavioral issues, and that's not fair to the people who actually have serious mental health conditions. It's not a simple diagnosis, but it's incredibly convenient for Hardy right now, don't you think?

I am sure you can trace behavioral issues to mental health disorders.

I agree about Hardy and you won't get an argument there.

Now sometimes from my readings and understandings mental health disorder can happen at anytime, so it is entirely possible that he was never diagnosed.

 

[DenCWBY]

Hilarious

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I'm interested in knowing what your opinion is on the matter. Often, many are misinformed about diagnoses, treatment, and medication. Not claiming you are but appreciate independent thinkers who have adequate knowledge over a subject in order to debate. With that being said, having more knowledge over a subject (which I should have more knowledge in this case considering that this is my career and calling) makes me no better a human being.

Educated yourself into being brainwashed. If you really believe even half of what you learned about human psychology, then you weren't paying attention.

 

[mattjames2010]

Educated yourself into being brainwashed. If you really believe even half of what you learned about human psychology, then you weren't paying attention.

While there is a lot of "PC" in the psychology world and they often water down words if a lynch mob is created. To say it's an outright lie, you're kidding yourself.

Now sociology on the other hand...