Bi-polar Disorder or Intermittent Explosive Disorder

[erod]

I am sure you can trace behavioral issues to mental health disorders.

I agree about Hardy and you won't get an argument there.

Now sometimes from my readings and understandings mental health disorder can happen at anytime, so it is entirely possible that he was never diagnosed.

I do believe that a reasonably significant percentage of these issues are far more about environmental and cultural upbringing, and a lot less about mental disorder.

A jerk who has a quick temper is just that. It's not Intermittent Explosive Disorder. We do a lot of over-thinking these days.

 

[coach steele]

Educated yourself into being brainwashed. If you really believe even half of what you learned about human psychology, then you weren't paying attention.

Interesting. I've heard similar debates from scientologist. What have I learned (please tell me so that I can elliminate these brainwashed tendencies)? Also, what is your background? I want to make sure that I'm dealing with someone informed and educated on the subject at hand.

 

[DenCWBY]

I know right?

For some reason they are unable to see what a hero guys like Hardy and Randle are.

Guys like Tony Romo, Jason Witten, Demarcus Ware .......... those guys make me sick.

Holier than thou preachy types.

Jerry is building a special bathrooms for all the players who cannot pass drug tests. They are, after all, in need of special treatment besides just a hug from the GM.

 

[AbeBeta]

Actually, you see both. Typically you want to have patients be medicated first. All psychological diagnoses have biological/heritable factors. Some are more genetic than others. Bipolar disorder is not completely genetic however. This is evident by the twin studies.

Nothing is completely genetic. The primary treatment for bipolar is medical though and the counseling aspect really focuses on keeping people on their meds

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

How can you say such a thing???

He was just defending himself from that 120lb monster.

I . . . I now feel shame for writing that. And they were probably love taps.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Interesting. I've heard similar debates from scientologist. What have I learned (please tell me so that I can elliminate these brainwashed tendencies)? Also, what is your background? I want to make sure that I'm dealing with someone informed and educated on the subject at hand.

You have learned to place things into empty spaces so you can feel comfortable. Life.

 

[coach steele]

Nothing is completely genetic. The primary treatment for bipolar is medical though and the counseling aspect really focuses on keeping people on their meds

And treating the aftermath of shame and guilt that a manic episode typically evokes (in case of bipolar 1). CBT is used for depressed mood in bipolar 2.

 

[coach steele]

You have learned to place things into empty spaces so you can feel comfortable. Life.

I think you are making assumptions based off of biases

 

[zrinkill]

Jerry is building a special bathrooms for all the players who cannot pass drug tests. They are, after all, in need of special treatment besides just a hug from the GM.

Hopefully they have the new Michael Irvin style cocaine tables so the players wont hurt their backs while they are doing their drugs

 

[zrinkill]

You have learned to place things into empty spaces so you can feel comfortable. Life.

 

[coach steele]

You have learned to place things into empty spaces so you can feel comfortable. Life.

Should I take the red pill or the blue pill?

 

[boysfanindc]

Well, actually, that would placate him, and make him feel better, for a brief period of time. So that would actually have a brief, fleeting positive effect. I know you were being sarcastic, but it has an element of truth to it.

Of course the team would never do that under the circumstances, so the team is doing the next best thing, which is placating him and stroking his ego. That is why you see Jerry showering Gregory with praise, even in the face of Gregory's repeated ****ups. Examples of this are Jerry hugging on Gregory over the past few days.

Jerry is doing this for a reason. He may genuinely care about Gregory, but Jerry is also a very smart old man, surrounded by experts in human behavior. He has learned how to attempt to manage these types of people. If it doesn't bear enough fruit you will see us cut bait with Gregory soon.

Not much else they can do at this point, try to get your sunk cost to perform the way that he can. It is really the only option.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Interesting. I've heard similar debates from scientologist. What have I learned (please tell me so that I can elliminate these brainwashed tendencies)? Also, what is your background? I want to make sure that I'm dealing with someone informed and educated on the subject at hand.

Good luck coach! I can see where this is headed. I would make a statement here, but we can't get political. I'm sure you can read between the lines with the current events

 

[CowboyStar88]

Should I take the red pill or the blue pill?

The blue pill it will set you free!

 

[Bigdog]

Actually no, having a disorder doesn't mean you can get away with anything. It means being diagnosed and getting proper treatment and/or medication to reduce the symptoms and possibility of episodes.

Perhaps the bigger issue is an absolute lack of compassion and/or understanding coupled with a refusal to accept scientific proof that these are neurological disorders. You don't have to like the guy or want him back to hope he gets proper medical attention and is able to cope with whatever specific condition(s) he might have. That's just being a good person. Something many of you are attacking Hardy for not being. Oh the irony...

Well said.

 

[Bigdog]

Also, the post doesn't serve a purpose as the disorders suggested by the poster are not the sort of things that talk therapy helps.

You don't see a counselor for bipolar disorder. You see a doctor who specializes in mental health issues (i.e. a psychiatrist)

Actually you do see a counselor for bipolar disorder. They can be LCSW, LMHT, or psychologist. A psychiatrist would prescribe medication for the disorder because the three that I mentioned are not authorize to do that in of the states. As far as him having intermittent explosive disorder, he might meet some of the DSM-5 criteria but he can not be diagnose with ADHD, depression to have this disorder.

 

[AbeBeta]

And treating the aftermath of shame and guilt that a manic episode typically evokes (in case of bipolar 1). CBT is used for depressed mood in bipolar 2.

True. But we know CBT can't match the impact of drug therapy. It might kick butt over other therapies but you are treating secondary issues not the core problem which is physiological

 

[AbeBeta]

Actually you do see a counselor for bipolar disorder. They can be LCSW, LMHT, or psychologist. A psychiatrist would prescribe medication for the disorder because the three that I mentioned are not authorize to do that in of the states. As far as him having intermittent explosive disorder, he might meet some of the DSM-5 criteria but he can not be diagnose with ADHD, depression to have this disorder.

True. But that person is going to have far less impact than drug therapy. Those levels of therapy are overmatched by medical problems.

 

[Bigdog]

Verdict, I feel bad correcting you here. One can be diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and not narsissistic personality disorder as they are two separate disorders (though under same cluster). Borderline personality disorder is treatable and Dialectic Behavioral Therapy (DBT) is the primary treatment. You are correct in saying that there is often comorbidity between bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder.


Slightly disagree as people can change. However, it often takes years of therapy. One also has to be motivated to change (so I agree with that point. The bottom line is that no one knows his medical/psychological history. We are all speculating. We are also reducing a person's behavior to a psychological diagnosis when there are many more complex factors that go into the purposeful need of behaviors.

[/quote]

Coach is right here. People can change with help and he is right about borderline and narcisstic personality disorders. I would have to say borderline personality disorder people are probably one of the most difficult people to cure since they seemed to be never happy with what you do for them and if you disappoint them, they get upset. Some people are just never satisfied but with DBT the symptoms of borderlines can decrease over time.

 

[mattjames2010]

Again, I will ask, where has Hardy not accepted accountability? Because he didn't hold a press conference with the girl next to him with crocodile tears running down his face? Is that what it takes to settle the lynch mob these days?

Here's what Hardy and his attorney stand by: The girl wouldn't leave him alone, trashed his car. The night of the incident, she was drunk and high and there was an altercation. He called the cops while his agent was there, and she was trying to hit him with the objects in her hands and refused to leave. Not to mention, crying because she didn't want to go to prison and even ran through a yard to avoid them.

Here we are talking like Hardy should be showing "remorse" for what? His side of the story is, he didn't hit her which is what he meant when he said he didn't put his hands on her. Do I think he grabbed her and pushed her at some point? Yes, but I also believe she was putting her hands on him. The pictures released show no signs that she was hit. I'm glad Hardy didn't play the medias game, I don't think he handled it as best as possible, but he didn't cave.

Two idiots had an altercation one night, neither were in the right. Most overblown story I've seen in sports in a good while.