'Big Bang' actually 'Big Chill,' new theory says

[jwitten82]

But it's why they call it a "Theory"... so they can come back later and amend any new findings...

Science is not an "Exact Science" so to speak when it comes to history... heck, Pluto was in our Solar System until 2006...

When they know for sure it will be labeled as "Law of Evolution" or "Theorem of Evolution"...

I'm not saying they are wrong, just providing the most common example... Scientists build in the "add more later" but many in the outside world take it for 100% accurate as new things are found...

Theories don't become laws in science.
Read this http://thehappyscientist.com/study-unit/when-does-theory-become-law

 

[trickblue]

Theories don't become laws in science.
Read this http://thehappyscientist.com/study-unit/when-does-theory-become-law

Good read, which has nothing to do with the subject...

My point is that science will always "evolve" as more is known... in the mean time, the zealots tout every knew finding as 100% accurate when the day before they were touting previous findings as 100% accurate...

The bottom line is that none of us know the truth, we only speculate as we weren't there...

They funny thing is that BOTH sides rely on faith... one side embraces it, the other side criticizes it... but it is faith nonetheless...

Faith is wrongly accused of being overtly religious, but it isn't... it's very similar to trust...

 

[jwitten82]

Good read, which has nothing to do with the subject...

My point is that science will always "evolve" as more is known... in the mean time, the zealots tout every knew finding as 100% accurate when the day before they were touting previous findings as 100% accurate...

The bottom line is that none of us know the truth, we only speculate as we weren't there...

They funny thing is that BOTH sides rely on faith... one side embraces it, the other side criticizes it... but it is faith nonetheless...

Faith is wrongly accused of being overtly religious, but it isn't... it's very similar to trust...

Scientists have evidence to back up their theories. No faith required.

 

[CashMan]

My favorite clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL5yplRHE9g

 

[trickblue]

Scientists have evidence to back up their theories. No faith required.

Oh OK... Pluto says "Hey"...

 

[jwitten82]

Oh OK... Pluto says "Hey"...

What does Pluto have to do with faith?

 

[trickblue]

What does Pluto have to do with faith?

umm... don't turn this around... you said they have evidence to back up their theories...

When I was in school we were taught that Pluto was in our solar system... now it isn't. I bet the day before that revelation, you would have argued until blue in the face it was, then argued the opposite the next... Apparently their evidence was misguided...

This whole thread is about a new theory that conflicts with an old theory, yet you site them both as truth...

You have faith in their findings... like it or not...

 

[zrinkill]

Scientists have evidence to back up their theories. No faith required.

Did you do the research yourself?

Or are you going by faith that these faceless scientist are telling you the truth?

 

[jwitten82]

umm... don't turn this around... you said they have evidence to back up their theories...

When I was in school we were taught that Pluto was in our solar system... now it isn't. I bet the day before that revelation, you would have argued until blue in the face it was, then argued the opposite the next... Apparently their evidence was misguided...

This whole thread is about a new theory that conflicts with an old theory, yet you site them both as truth...

You have faith in their findings... like it or not...

Pluto is still in our solar system, it's a dwarf planet.

 

[theogt]

Good read, which has nothing to do with the subject...

My point is that science will always "evolve" as more is known... in the mean time, the zealots tout every knew finding as 100% accurate when the day before they were touting previous findings as 100% accurate...

The bottom line is that none of us know the truth, we only speculate as we weren't there...

They funny thing is that BOTH sides rely on faith... one side embraces it, the other side criticizes it... but it is faith nonetheless...

Faith is wrongly accused of being overtly religious, but it isn't... it's very similar to trust...

I think the only criticism is regarding faith in beliefs that aren't substantiated by observable or calculable facts.

 

[Ultimategamer5567]

Funny that any religious discussions are against the rules, but a Mod posts a story related to the Big Bang, which is a topic that almost always brings apon religious discussion and arguments.

I guess it can work as long as they always have a set of eyes hawking this thread, but it's still pretty risky.

 

[jwitten82]

Did you do the research yourself?

Or are you going by faith that these faceless scientist are telling you the truth?

The evidence is there for us to see.For example, if you want evidence for evolution just go to a museum and they have transistional fossils for you to see.

 

[jobberone]

fascinating theory. Difficult to wrap your brain around the idea of course. Vaguely similar to the multiverse theory, except with all the multiverses existing simultaneously within one...well whatever. I wonder if the building blocks they are talking about are strings, or something else.

That's an excellent question. When you know let me in and we'll share the Nobel prize.

 

[trickblue]

Pluto is still in our solar system, it's a dwarf planet.

Reclassified in 2006 as is only one of several large bodies in the Kuiper (sp) Belt. So they were wrong...

You are avoiding the pig picture by arguing semantics. So you aren't religious... who cares... but to pretend you have all of the answers via science is a foolish path to meander... NO ONE has all of the answers...

Just admit you are a man of faith, my friend, and we can move forward...

 

[masomenos]

Science is not an "Exact Science" so to speak when it comes to history... heck, Pluto was in our Solar System until 2006...

Pluto is still in the Solar System.

Regardless, it's a bad example because it's simply a matter of taxonomy; it's not as if astronomers said, "Hey, that thing we call Pluto? Yeah...so...we were wrong about it existing".

 

[YosemiteSam]

Did you do the research yourself?

Or are you going by faith that these faceless scientist are telling you the truth?

Scientist pretty much patrol themselves. If someone says something that can't be verified, other scientists will not just call him out, but ridicule them to the point that some are forced to step down.

Ask Antonio Ereditato about it.

If you are caught lying in the world of Science, your career would be over. Truth is what they are searching for. That is why they are scientist.

 

[jwitten82]

Reclassified in 2006 as is only one of several large bodies in the Kuiper (sp) Belt. So they were wrong...

You are avoiding the pig picture by arguing semantics. So you aren't religious... who cares... but to pretend you have all of the answers via science is a foolish path to meander... NO ONE has all of the answers...

Just admit you are a man of faith, my friend, and we can move forward...

I never said I had all the answers. I admit that there are things that we do not know.

 

[trickblue]

I think the only criticism is regarding faith in beliefs that aren't substantiated by observable or calculable facts.

I can understand that, but how many years have we been looking for the so-called "Missing Link"?

I'm not suggesting it doesn't exist, but up until this point the scientific world asks us to have faith that it exists...

I'm not taking one side or the other, I'm playing Devil's Advocate to those that claim absolute truth, absolutely...

 

[jwitten82]

I can understand that, but how many years have we been looking for the so-called "Missing Link"?

I'm not suggesting it doesn't exist, but up until this point the scientific world asks us to have faith that it exists...

I'm not taking one side or the other, I'm playing Devil's Advocate to those that claim absolute truth, absolutely...

They have found transistional fossils.
http://www.livescience.com/3306-fossils-reveal-truth-darwin-theory.html

 

[zrinkill]

Scientist pretty much patrol themselves. If someone says something that can't be verified, other scientists will not just call him out, but ridicule them to the point that some are forced to step down.

Ask Antonio Ereditato about it.

If you are caught lying in the world of Science, your career would be over.

So you have faith that scientist police themselves.

I am glad you believe that.