Big failure by the GM

CouchCoach said:
I don't know why he wouldn't, it's a business and he already knows the offense and players. I don't think he wanted to leave but they weren't going to pay him and Dalton wasn't the reason they had a crummy season and he knows that.
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Good points. I tend to agree that it was a numbers game.
 
Rockport said:
They should’ve brought in a QB back when FA began. Now they’ll have to make a trade or pick up someone after the last cuts. Hence the title of this thread.
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They were gonna but were hamstringed by having to pay someone else's salary. We've put our eggs all into one basket so we now get to live with the consequences of that.





P.S. The first sentence was me being snarky. I have no proof but it made me chuckle typing it!!
 
plasticman said:
What they should have done is draft quarterbacks every 3 years in rounds 2 and 3, perhaps 4 if it's a steal.

This gives the team an acceptable level of talent, an inexpensive contract, legitimate competition, future contract leverage, a potential high trade value, and a player that knows the team and system. After 3 years, they could trade him or keep him as the backup.

Getting a legitimate free agent backup is expensive, he would have to learn the system, and he would have limited value. Anyway, there really isn't anyone available that would actually make a difference.

Drafting a QB in the 2nd or 3rd every 3 years isn't going to dilute their talent when you consider the quality of a lot of the guys drafted in those rounds.

As it stands, it's Dak or bust. If he goes down, season over.
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so that means every 2 or 3 years you recyle a back up QB.....that's waste of draft pick. just in case we had diggs, gallimore, mcgovern, pollard, gallup over the past few years in 2nd and 3rd round. players who are expected to be cornerstones on the team....but I get your point, at some point you have to draft higher than a 5th or 7th round pick. I just think every 2 or 3 years is a bit over the top.......
 
rocyaice said:
Gilbert looked good to me. Didn’t think Rush looked terrible. The Nooch was rough but he was playing with not a full deck.


I always wonder this every year…how much do you gauge in how a QB looks if he’s out there with practice squad level completion around him! How good is he suppose to look?
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Gilbert played ok as long as they weren't in the redzone (and ok is a little generous), but Rush and 'Nooch played crappy, and do not belong in the NFL. Their level of play and comprehension based on players around them and the speed of the game was poor.
Narrow it down even more Rush carried himself a little better at the NFL level but his targets always seems to be those 2 or 3 yard dumpoffs. Nooch - just bad, he has a long way to go to even hope to play in NFL
 
CouchCoach said:
I don't know why he wouldn't, it's a business and he already knows the offense and players. I don't think he wanted to leave but they weren't going to pay him and Dalton wasn't the reason they had a crummy season and he knows that.
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With talk that Dalton is the starter in Chicago and the 1st round commitment to Fields, I do not see the Bears releasing/trading Dalton but rather if anyone goes it would be Foles. That said Dalton would cost the Bears $5.5M if released/traded (salary cap hit V. dead money) and Foles would cost the Bears $7.6M (also Dalton signed a 1-year deal whereas Foles has 2 years remaining) so ultimately the Bears need to decide how much they commit to the QB position and who between Dalton and Foles provides them with the better quality option to pair with Fields.
 
How many defenses in preseason look like they had a defined game plan. Blitzes? Come on. Is Tomlin trying to score points with his GM?
 
Rockport said:
The QB play last night was nothing less than atrocious. How the team could be this far in to training camp with these backup QB’s and think that they could play is mind boggling. They’ve seen them every OTA, mini-camp and every day in training camp. Really disappointed they haven’t gotten a decent backup from day one so that he could get acclimated with the offense. They better get off their rear ends fast and bring someone in because if Dak goes down for a few games, we ain’t winning squat.
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Troll
 
USArmyVet said:
With talk that Dalton is the starter in Chicago and the 1st round commitment to Fields, I do not see the Bears releasing/trading Dalton but rather if anyone goes it would be Foles. That said Dalton would cost the Bears $5.5M if released/traded (salary cap hit V. dead money) and Foles would cost the Bears $7.6M (also Dalton signed a 1-year deal whereas Foles has 2 years remaining) so ultimately the Bears need to decide how much they commit to the QB position and who between Dalton and Foles provides them with the better quality option to pair with Fields.
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Foles is not that bad either. Either one would be an improvement. If Dallas does not make a move, they are asking for trouble.
 
I think we have to consider thats it’s actually an easier path in public opinion for our dysfunctional ownership to concede the season if Prescott goes down than bringing in a named veteran who could have some success in his absence which could create drama and a QB controversy they’d hate to have especially after just signing a 4 year 160 million deal.
 
Diehardblues said:
I think we have to consider thats it’s actually an easier path in public opinion for our dysfunctional ownership to concede the season if Prescott goes down than bringing in a named veteran who could have some success in his absence which could create drama and a QB controversy they’d hate to have especially after just signing a 4 year 160 million deal.
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Long history of that, yes?
 
Pantone282C said:
Foles is not that bad either. Either one would be an improvement. If Dallas does not make a move, they are asking for trouble.
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He isn't but besides the magical run in 2017 Foles really hasn't done anything in his career. Despite being a few years younger than Dalton, when you look at their career stats Dalton is actually the better rusher and passer and recently had time in the Dallas system. I doubt the Bears release him as a roster cut but if they did Dallas would be wise to contact him immediately.
 
Rockport said:
The QB play last night was nothing less than atrocious. How the team could be this far in to training camp with these backup QB’s and think that they could play is mind boggling. They’ve seen them every OTA, mini-camp and every day in training camp. Really disappointed they haven’t gotten a decent backup from day one so that he could get acclimated with the offense. They better get off their rear ends fast and bring someone in because if Dak goes down for a few games, we ain’t winning squat.
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So, you think that qbs are easily acquired? That's mind boggling.
 
Rockport said:
The QB play last night was nothing less than atrocious. How the team could be this far in to training camp with these backup QB’s and think that they could play is mind boggling. They’ve seen them every OTA, mini-camp and every day in training camp. Really disappointed they haven’t gotten a decent backup from day one so that he could get acclimated with the offense. They better get off their rear ends fast and bring someone in because if Dak goes down for a few games, we ain’t winning squat.
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This be truth.
 
Risen Star said:
Yes, Gilbert is fine. The other two don't belong in the NFL.

It's a little alarming that DiNucci was a pet cat for a supposed QB guru like McCarthy. I try to give the benefit of the doubt scouting players. We all miss a lot but I just don't see any traits in him that would make anyone believe he could potentially be an NFL QB.
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Nooch was a 7th round dart throw. Not alarming in the least.
 
CouchCoach said:
Might not have to trade, CHI has one QB too many and Fields is a job saver so he stays, they may have to bring Dalton back, He's better than what they have now. These guys would be backups at Home Depot.
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Trading a late round pick for a vet insurance policy is not a bad thing if we wanted to go in that direction. I think cap space is more the FO concern. So mich already tied up in Dak— they ride or die with him
 
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