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Chuck 54

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Facts. When any team rushes for 200 yards in the NFL, the winning percentage is 88%.
The Cardinals rushed for 222 yards and a 7.4 yards per carry average. Most of their runs went outside the tackles. We already know that DLaw received one of the higher grades on the defense, so what does that tell you about Parsons side of the defense?

At crunch time, the defense busted a coverage and gave up a third of the Cardinals total passing yards on one play, followed by a passing TD that put the game mostly out of reach due to the time left.

We were down by 2 TDs on our final drive that started on our own 25. 12 plays later, we are on the Arizona 5 with almost no chance to win without recovering an onside kick. For some reason, we run the ball twice and are further back than we were. On third down, Dak makes a throw that was intercepted, good coverage, but a desperation throw. I would argue he should have thrown it away and tried again on fourth down, but this game was lost way before this. Due to the OL, Mike called a much too conservative game. One would expect that if we were leading, but we were trailing the entire game.

Our offense starting field positions were 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 16, 36, 25. After an 80 yard drive and a chance to cut the lead to 5 points, we went for it on 4th and 3 instead of taking the FG.

I find it shocking that so many are blaming anyone or any unit for this loss other than Dan Quinn and the defense.
The Cardinals scored on all 5 possessions in the first half without any help from a turnover. Rushing for 222 yards made life pretty darn easy for the Cardinals and their QB. The defense forced only one 3 and out, followed by a game changing punt return by Turpin that was called back by a holding 10 yards from the line of scrimmage before Turpin even fielded the punt 52 yards away.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but most of it should be on the defense.
 

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Facts. When any team rushes for 200 yards in the NFL, the winning percentage is 88%.
The Cardinals rushed for 222 yards and a 7.4 yards per carry average. Most of their runs went outside the tackles. We already know that DLaw received one of the higher grades on the defense, so what does that tell you about Parsons side of the defense?

At crunch time, the defense busted a coverage and gave up a third of the Cardinals total passing yards on one play, followed by a passing TD that put the game mostly out of reach due to the time left.

We were down by 2 TDs on our final drive that started on our own 25. 12 plays later, we are on the Arizona 5 with almost no chance to win without recovering an onside kick. For some reason, we run the ball twice and are further back than we were. On third down, Dak makes a throw that was intercepted, good coverage, but a desperation throw. I would argue he should have thrown it away and tried again on fourth down, but this game was lost way before this. Due to the OL, Mike called a much too conservative game. One would expect that if we were leading, but we were trailing the entire game.

Our offense starting field positions were 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 16, 36, 25. After an 80 yard drive and a chance to cut the lead to 5 points, we went for it on 4th and 3 instead of taking the FG.

I find it shocking that so many are blaming anyone or any unit for this loss other than Dan Quinn and the defense.
The Cardinals scored on all 5 possessions in the first half without any help from a turnover. Rushing for 222 yards made life pretty darn easy for the Cardinals and their QB. The defense forced only one 3 and out, followed by a game changing punt return by Turpin that was called back by a holding 10 yards from the line of scrimmage before Turpin even fielded the punt 52 yards away.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but most of it should be on the defense.
Could not agree more.
 

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Facts. When any team rushes for 200 yards in the NFL, the winning percentage is 88%.
The Cardinals rushed for 222 yards and a 7.4 yards per carry average. Most of their runs went outside the tackles. We already know that DLaw received one of the higher grades on the defense, so what does that tell you about Parsons side of the defense?

At crunch time, the defense busted a coverage and gave up a third of the Cardinals total passing yards on one play, followed by a passing TD that put the game mostly out of reach due to the time left.

We were down by 2 TDs on our final drive that started on our own 25. 12 plays later, we are on the Arizona 5 with almost no chance to win without recovering an onside kick. For some reason, we run the ball twice and are further back than we were. On third down, Dak makes a throw that was intercepted, good coverage, but a desperation throw. I would argue he should have thrown it away and tried again on fourth down, but this game was lost way before this. Due to the OL, Mike called a much too conservative game. One would expect that if we were leading, but we were trailing the entire game.

Our offense starting field positions were 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 16, 36, 25. After an 80 yard drive and a chance to cut the lead to 5 points, we went for it on 4th and 3 instead of taking the FG.

I find it shocking that so many are blaming anyone or any unit for this loss other than Dan Quinn and the defense.
The Cardinals scored on all 5 possessions in the first half without any help from a turnover. Rushing for 222 yards made life pretty darn easy for the Cardinals and their QB. The defense forced only one 3 and out, followed by a game changing punt return by Turpin that was called back by a holding 10 yards from the line of scrimmage before Turpin even fielded the punt 52 yards away.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but most of it should be on the defense.
Yep I totally agree 80% is on the defense and the game plan and the execution on the defense... 10% on penalties and the other ten percents on the rest of the team in the offense for not being able to score more but they were missing 3 Pro Bowl offensive lineman on the road with the defense doing absolutely nothing.
 

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Facts. When any team rushes for 200 yards in the NFL, the winning percentage is 88%.
The Cardinals rushed for 222 yards and a 7.4 yards per carry average. Most of their runs went outside the tackles. We already know that DLaw received one of the higher grades on the defense, so what does that tell you about Parsons side of the defense?

At crunch time, the defense busted a coverage and gave up a third of the Cardinals total passing yards on one play, followed by a passing TD that put the game mostly out of reach due to the time left.

We were down by 2 TDs on our final drive that started on our own 25. 12 plays later, we are on the Arizona 5 with almost no chance to win without recovering an onside kick. For some reason, we run the ball twice and are further back than we were. On third down, Dak makes a throw that was intercepted, good coverage, but a desperation throw. I would argue he should have thrown it away and tried again on fourth down, but this game was lost way before this. Due to the OL, Mike called a much too conservative game. One would expect that if we were leading, but we were trailing the entire game.

Our offense starting field positions were 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 16, 36, 25. After an 80 yard drive and a chance to cut the lead to 5 points, we went for it on 4th and 3 instead of taking the FG.

I find it shocking that so many are blaming anyone or any unit for this loss other than Dan Quinn and the defense.
The Cardinals scored on all 5 possessions in the first half without any help from a turnover. Rushing for 222 yards made life pretty darn easy for the Cardinals and their QB. The defense forced only one 3 and out, followed by a game changing punt return by Turpin that was called back by a holding 10 yards from the line of scrimmage before Turpin even fielded the punt 52 yards away.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but most of it should be on the defense.
Let’s keep finding excuses for the elephant in the room. 8 years running.
 

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Facts. When any team rushes for 200 yards in the NFL, the winning percentage is 88%.
The Cardinals rushed for 222 yards and a 7.4 yards per carry average. Most of their runs went outside the tackles. We already know that DLaw received one of the higher grades on the defense, so what does that tell you about Parsons side of the defense?

At crunch time, the defense busted a coverage and gave up a third of the Cardinals total passing yards on one play, followed by a passing TD that put the game mostly out of reach due to the time left.

We were down by 2 TDs on our final drive that started on our own 25. 12 plays later, we are on the Arizona 5 with almost no chance to win without recovering an onside kick. For some reason, we run the ball twice and are further back than we were. On third down, Dak makes a throw that was intercepted, good coverage, but a desperation throw. I would argue he should have thrown it away and tried again on fourth down, but this game was lost way before this. Due to the OL, Mike called a much too conservative game. One would expect that if we were leading, but we were trailing the entire game.

Our offense starting field positions were 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 25, 16, 36, 25. After an 80 yard drive and a chance to cut the lead to 5 points, we went for it on 4th and 3 instead of taking the FG.

I find it shocking that so many are blaming anyone or any unit for this loss other than Dan Quinn and the defense.
The Cardinals scored on all 5 possessions in the first half without any help from a turnover. Rushing for 222 yards made life pretty darn easy for the Cardinals and their QB. The defense forced only one 3 and out, followed by a game changing punt return by Turpin that was called back by a holding 10 yards from the line of scrimmage before Turpin even fielded the punt 52 yards away.
There’s plenty of blame to go around, but most of it should be on the defense.
Yup.
 

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This board just looks for reasons to blame the QB independent of any other factors.

Bad as the defense was, you should still score more than 28 against Arizona. I agree but 3 of the oline starters were out. Thats got to hurt.
 

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You can play the blame game if you want to but the fact is this team has characteristics that it can't overcome the first glaring problem is that we can't stop the run.
The second glaring problem is between the coaching staff and the skill position players we are unable to put the ball in the end zone after getting to the red zone.

We have these problems whether we have injured players or not.
Not sure if we don't have the talent to fix these problems or if the coaching staff is unable to fix them but mark my words we are going nowhere in the playoffs not being able to stop the run and having to kick field goals in the red zone continually
 

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Let’s keep finding excuses for the elephant in the room. 8 years running.
I think at this point everyone knows what DAk. Is capable of doing and what he is not capable of doing.
When he is playing with a lead and the defense is unleashing its pass rush with no mercy life is really good and we look invincible.

But when the defense gets punched in the mouth because it can't stop the run he's playing from behind without the protection he's used to and his teammates are playing less than perfect he's not the guy that's going to rise above all adversity and lift the whole team when everybody else isn't doing their jobs.
I expect him to struggle in these situations and hope that his teammates understand the gravity of putting him in this type of scenario.
Just flat out not a recipe for winning games Dak needs people to do their job to be successful
 

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The Eagles have won 3 games this year and Hurts, the guy they anointed last year has yet to play a decent game. He has thrown 3 INTs and lost 1 fumble in 3 games. His rating is lower than Dak's at 89, and he has been sacked 8 times compared to Dak's 3, 2 of which were against the Cardinals with the banged up Cowboys OL.

The Eagles won because they run the football and stop the run. They have only 6 sacks compared to Dallas's 12. But the Eagles give up 3.0 yards per carry. Dallas gives up 5.3 yards per carry. The Eagles have given up 145 yards in 3 games while Dallas has given up 394 yards.

The QB is front and center when a team loses because he is responsible for every offensive play. But football still comes down to running and stopping the run. Dallas failed to stop the run and gave up 115 yards on 3 running plays Sunday. They gave up almost 200 yards on 4 plays. You cannot win playing that poorly on defense.
 

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The Eagles have won 3 games this year and Hurts, the guy they anointed last year has yet to play a decent game. He has thrown 3 INTs and lost 1 fumble in 3 games. His rating is lower than Dak's at 89, and he has been sacked 8 times compared to Dak's 3, 2 of which were against the Cardinals with the banged up Cowboys OL.

The Eagles won because they run the football and stop the run. They have only 6 sacks compared to Dallas's 12. But the Eagles give up 3.0 yards per carry. Dallas gives up 5.3 yards per carry. The Eagles have given up 145 yards in 3 games while Dallas has given up 394 yards.

The QB is front and center when a team loses because he is responsible for every offensive play. But football still comes down to running and stopping the run. Dallas failed to stop the run and gave up 115 yards on 3 running plays Sunday. They gave up almost 200 yards on 4 plays. You cannot win playing that poorly on defense.
The Eagles run the football because teams are terrified of AJ Brown and Devonta Smith. Don't get it twisted, they are a pass-first team.

They haven't played a team that can run the ball.
 

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Have to wonder at the so called ratings of Lawrence being so high when so much of the yardage we gave up was outside the tackles.

But leaving that aside it is clear that our problems with Run D have not been solved. and it will continue to haunt us no matter what football morons claim as regards running the football being meaningless.

So that is problem 1

Problem 1A is red zone offense. Those desperately trying to excuse our abysmal stats in that area can go jump in a piranha infested river.

IF we do not substantially improve in both areas we are going to end this season like all the rest for the last 27 years.
 
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