Bledsoe or McNabb?

[ABQCOWBOY]

Again, you take the shrinking violet that wilts under pressure. We'll take the guy that stood in when every game came down to the wire last year.

McNabb does a nice job front-running with a 3 TD lead.

And an even better job of curling up into the fetal positon when the chips are down.

He can have whatever regular season numbers you want, but when the games really count, he sucks.

As I said earlier, McNabb would not be my first choice, by any means. If the choice were strickly between the two, then I would take McNappie.

 

[Stash]

As I said earlier, McNabb would not be my first choice, by any means. If the choice were strickly between the two, then I would take McNappie.

OK, we'll just agree to diagree then.

I would not want anyone so completely devoid of leadership skills leading my favorite team.

 

[Longboysfan]

For the type of offense we run Beldsoe.
For the WC offense McNabb.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You were the one who insinuated that there were players on Buffalo who were happy to see Drew leave.

Think the onus is on you to prove that one.

No, the proof is out there. I am not inclinded to step and fetch this as I know why it is being asked and by whom.

If you or anybody choose not to believe what I'm saying is true, that is up to you. I know that my original statment is factual.

That is all that matters.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

OK, we'll just agree to diagree then.

I would not want anyone so completely devoid of leadership skills leading my favorite team.

Fair enough.

 

[Alexander]

Do your own homework, then we can talk about the rest.

You made the statement.

I am prepared to defend mine.

Are you?

 

[wileedog]

No, the proof is out there. I am not inclinded to step and fetch this as I know why it is being asked and by whom.

If you or anybody choose not to believe what I'm saying is true, that is up to you. I know that my original statment is factual.

That is all that matters.

*shrug* I have no idea if its true. I have never heard one thing or another about it.

But if you want to use it to back up your argument, then you need to prove it.

Until then, I'll happily go along my way assuming most of the players were probably pretty pissed that management decided to toss the season away before it ever started by handing the job to Losman.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Sure but IMO, the better supporting cast offensively has been in Dallas, the last few years.

really? even on the Oline? and McNabb had TO for a year and a half

there's an argument for both Qbs, neither have much separation between each other

 

[Bob Sacamano]

this is what separates Bledsoe from MCNabb as a leader IMO, winning or losing, McNabb has this goofy smile on his face, and is constantly joking on the sidelines; however, when winning, and winning big, you see Bledsoe get after Key and get into a shouting match for giving the other team points

 

[Alexander]

*shrug* I have no idea if its true. I have never heard one thing or another about it.

But if you want to use it to back up your argument, then you need to prove it.

Until then, I'll happily go along my way assuming most of the players were probably pretty pissed that management decided to toss the season away before it ever started by handing the job to Losman.

Precisely. I'll gladly accept that statement if it were demonstrated with facts.

Like you, that's the first I had heard about any of the players being disenchanted. And if so, that's great and knowledge has been served. In fact, just the names of a few of the players would suffice.

But it's much easier to say "go find it" than back up a statement you made that may not have anything to back it up.

But again, it's a "fact", and "that's all that matters".

If so, show the facts. And you'll get a big fat "Ooops, so sorry, you were right" from me.

 

[Givincer]

Bledsoe played those teams in the Super Bowl? Your point was McNabb choked in the Super Bowl. Okay, that's fine, Bledsoe has a history of choking in the playoffs.

Bledsoe has won 2 AFC championship games in 2 tries, McNabb has won 1 NFC championship games in 4 tries.

The question was, "What pressure has Bledsoe handled?" So in turn I pointed to the number of games he lead the team on game winning drives, just last year.

 

[WV Cowboy]

There are a lot of QB's that I would take over McNabb, but that's just me.

I just don't like him much, ... don't like his leadership skills, don't like his arrogant attitude, he handled the TO situation like a school-girl, choked in the big game.

The QB has to be looked upon as "The Man", ... I don't see him that way.

He is a good athlete though.

 

[Alexander]

There are a lot of QB's that I would take over McNabb, but that's just me.

I just don't like him much, ... don't like his leadership skills, don't like his arrogant attitude, he handled the TO situation like a school-girl, choked in the big game.

The QB has to be looked upon as "The Man", ... I don't see him that way.

He is a good athlete though.

Agreed on all points.

 

[Da Hammer]

I chose McFlabb because he would obviously be better long term and with our O-Line we need a QB that can move around a bit and then get the ball to the open guy. Bledsoe has to have a very good O-Line to succeed while McFlabb can get the job done with a good O-line.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You made the statement.

I am prepared to defend mine.

Are you?

Absolutly, just as soon as you do your own homework. I know the statement is a factual one. So do you Alexander. You were here when we had all the discussion on Bledsoe leaving Buffalo. You threw that out knowing what I said was true.

The point remains that none of that has anything to do with which QB is superior. I will stipulate that the original question was, who would you want? That is fine and Stash actually pointed that out, to which I agreed with him. That was how the question was ment to be asked.

Having said that, my point was that McNabb is the better QB at this point in there careers.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

*shrug* I have no idea if its true. I have never heard one thing or another about it.

But if you want to use it to back up your argument, then you need to prove it.

Until then, I'll happily go along my way assuming most of the players were probably pretty pissed that management decided to toss the season away before it ever started by handing the job to Losman.

No Wileedog, I don't. As I said earlier, I know that it is true. Having said that, it is irrelivant, as I have said repeatedly. It is not supporting anything that has to do with my "argument". What difference as to who is the better QB? It is a point that has no bearing.

However, should somebody want to research it, a good place to start is with some of the OLs. That is where I first heard it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

really? even on the Oline? and McNabb had TO for a year and a half

there's an argument for both Qbs, neither have much separation between each other

Oh yes. McNabb had TO for a year and a half but really not much else. I do believe that we had the better of the skilled position players on offense. I suppose it is debatable but I do believe we have had more talent offensively.

 

[Alexander]

You threw that out knowing what I said was true.

Actually, no.

I honestly cannot recall. And if I forgot, my mistake. I am not riding to Bledsoe's defense. I just honestly cannot remember the detractors and those that hated him and were glad he was gone. I vaguely recall something about Lee Evans being happy because Bledsoe didn't look his way often. But that's about it and it's a far cry from being elated he was gone because of a geniune dislike. Again, if I forgot someone else, fair enough.

The point remains that none of that has anything to do with which QB is superior. I will stipulate that the original question was, who would you want? That is fine and Stash actually pointed that out, to which I agreed with him. That was how the question was ment to be asked.

Leadership matters to me. It is in that regard that I think Bledsoe makes it a more difficult decision, because McNabb outclasses him in most other categories, save the deep pass.

 

[Alexander]

However, should somebody want to research it, a good place to start is with some of the OLs. That is where I first heard it.

The OL like who?

The ones who all got released or were allowed to leave?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Actually, no.

I honestly cannot recall. And if I forgot, my mistake. I am not riding to Bledsoe's defense. I just honestly cannot remember the detractors and those that hated him and were glad he was gone. I vaguely recall something about Lee Evans being happy because Bledsoe didn't look his way often. But that's about it and it's a far cry from being elated he was gone because of a geniune dislike. Again, if I forgot someone else, fair enough.



Leadership matters to me. It is in that regard that I think Bledsoe makes it a more difficult decision, because McNabb outclasses him in most other categories, save the deep pass.

As I recall, members of the OL and I believe Travis Henry both made comments about Bledsoe. There are always going to be some who don't like the QB on any team so I don't see it as a huge point one way or the other. I am not trying to muddy the water because I don't believe this point to be relivant. It does not support who is better, one way or the other.