Bledsoe or Quincy?

Hostile;1085891 said:
Come on Mash. Nad up and respond to my question.

what question....sorry.....msn ing.....

about Bledsoe getting bashed?

sure he is....the extent of QC.....

imho.....not even close
 
Mash;1085907 said:
what question....sorry.....msn ing.....

about Bledsoe getting bashed?

sure he is....the extent of QC.....

imho.....not even close


Who's on the team? Bledsoe or Crankcase?

:lmao:
 
Mash;1085907 said:
what question....sorry.....msn ing.....

about Bledsoe getting bashed?

sure he is....the extent of QC.....

imho.....not even close
Care to make a wager on the number of threads created since Sunday's game? I bet the number would shock you.

It's hardly silent support for the man. That was pure ridiculous.

Can you admit this or would you rather I shatter the illusion?
 
The question was asked, where is the criticism for Bledsoe like there was for Quincy? Quincy was a youngster, Bledsoe should know better.

I will never forget after we had just gone to the playoffs with Quincy, the following year Parcells brings in Testaverde and all Randy Shalloway could say was, Quincy was shaking in his boots. He said that Vinny was a real QB compared to Quincy, and oh by the way, how did that Vinny thing turn out Galloway?

We all knew the real reason Quincy was dragged through the mud playing for the Cowboys, but people won't admit it. The poster wasn't suggesting Quincy play for us now, he's just wondering why Bledsoe keeps being awarded excuses from folks like Mickey, yet Quincy was the devil and a bum and should be taken out back and shot.

Truth be told, Quincy never had a chance in this town with these fans. Unless Quincy came out and threw for 5000 yds 50 TDs and 3 INTs, he was going to be crucified.

Personally, I don't want the kid back. Maybe if he's cleaned up, 3rd string or perhaps 2nd string, but as far as I'm concerned, he blew it. But for once,would the media be willing to step up and say they had personal bias towards Quincy?

And I'll give credit to the board (atleast our board does tear into Bledsoe like they did Quincy) but not the media, and I amongst others wonder why they won't?
 
Clove;1085938 said:
The question was asked, where is the criticism for Bledsoe like there was for Quincy? Quincy was a youngster, Bledsoe should know better.

I will never forget after we had just gone to the playoffs with Quincy, the following year Parcells brings in Testaverde and all Randy Shalloway could say was, Quincy was shaking in his boots. He said that Vinny was a real QB compared to Quincy, and oh by the way, how did that Vinny thing turn out Galloway?

We all knew the real reason Quincy was dragged through the mud playing for the Cowboys, but people won't admit it. The poster wasn't suggesting Quincy play for us now, he's just wondering why Bledsoe keeps being awarded excuses from folks like Mickey, yet Quincy was the devil and a bum and should be taken out back and shot.

Truth be told, Quincy never had a chance in this town with these fans. Unless Quincy came out and threw for 5000 yds 50 TDs and 3 INTs, he was going to be crucified.

Personally, I don't want the kid back. Maybe if he's cleaned up, 3rd string or perhaps 2nd string, but as far as I'm concerned, he blew it. But for once,would the media be willing to step up and say they had personal bias towards Quincy?

And I'll give credit to the board (atleast our board does tear into Bledsoe like they did Quincy) but not the media, and I amongst others wonder why they won't?
I can show you articles written since Sunday calling for him to be benched.
 
Once again. Basic facts. With Quincy, who is not even an average QB, and that team in 2003 we scored 18 points a game. The next season with Vinny, who was worse than Quincy, we scored 18 points a game. Last year with Bledsoe and a slight talent infusion we score 20 points a game. This year with Bledsoe and another talent infusion we score about 28 points a game.

As bad as Bledsoe is playing right now, as bad as the OLine is playing, as bad as TO is playing, we are a MUCH better offense than at any time since the late 90's.

We won in 2003 because people didn't respect our offense which let our defense in its medicority be very good. It gave up 16 points a game, the following season 25 a game.

Quincy was NOT the reason that we made the playoffs that season. If you look at his stats we very likely made the playoffs in spite of the offense as a whole. Vinny was bad, but if the defense had been playing on the same level as the year before we would likely have made the playoffs again.
 
Hostile;1085954 said:
I can show you articles written since Sunday calling for him to be benched.
But they are not calling for his brains to be splattered across LBJ freeway in Dallas.

The guy couldn't throw a touch down without some smart arse saying, that pass was ugly or too high, or too much to the left. The guy was basically lynched here for going to the playoffs.

Although the media is calling for Romo, they are not treating Bledsoe like a serial killer, a bum, and worthless piece of cow terd.. You get the point.The key word is "Treatment". How one got treated over the other.
 
Honestly I've thought about this very question since the day we got rid of him and didnt' have his clearcut replacement. So freaking what about his "drug problem", the Dallas Cowboys are an institution, a family, and they should have all came to his aid like they have on so many other countless occasions throughout their history. But nobody did, because Bill had come in and turned this team into a total disarrayed packaged, and then only compounding matters by outright releasing one of few leaders this team still actually had. We were set back 3 years. And still doesn't excuse former Cowboys stepping in. Heck, TO is a Cowboy for 2 games and Deion's right by his side already. I don't care how good of friends they claim to be, I just don't see him putting in so much effort if it didn't have the Cowboy angel. After everything Q gave to this team for his 3 years hear, we just simply gave up on him to fast...as a football player, as a human being. Imagine had Bill not tried to make an example out of Q in order to regain control of a team he was quickly starting to lose. Imagine if we were now entering his 6th season as our starting qb. He's still better 3 years ago then anything we've had since.

Though now it's Romo's turn and as much as I want to hold my breath for awhile more on Bledsoe (sorry, deadslow), it's getting harder and harder to do so. He does good for one game and you forget. We have to break this cycle and start thinking about the future. That future is now, that future is Romo to TO.
 
Clove;1085963 said:
But they are not calling for his brains to be splattered across LBJ freeway in Dallas.

The guy couldn't throw a touch down without some smart arse saying, that pass was ugly or too high, or too much to the left. The guy was basically lynched here for going to the playoffs.

Although the media is calling for Romo, they are not treating Bledsoe like a serial killer, a bum, and worthless piece of cow terd.. You get the point.The key word is "Treatment". How one got treated over the other.
I would like to see an article calling for Q's brains to be splattered all over the LBJ Freeway.

I have a feeling none will be coming.
 
Clove;1085963 said:
But they are not calling for his brains to be splattered across LBJ freeway in Dallas.

The guy couldn't throw a touch down without some smart arse saying, that pass was ugly or too high, or too much to the left. The guy was basically lynched here for going to the playoffs.

Although the media is calling for Romo, they are not treating Bledsoe like a serial killer, a bum, and worthless piece of cow terd.. You get the point.The key word is "Treatment". How one got treated over the other.


Clove, you get treated like you want to be treated. Has Bledsoe come out proclaiming..."Did you watch the game, all the greats have a bad game"..."I am the leader of this team"...agruing with JJ on the sideline of the AZ game! Arguing with the freaking OWNER of the Cowboys!

Has Bledsoe been know to take drugs? Has he bailed on the teams he's played for?

Does Bledsoe moan and groan about competition at the QB position? Does Bledsoe demand to have interviews with female reporters only while he's naked?

Think what you want about QC...but, the guy was and still is, a mental midget...

But, he "could of been a contenda..."! However, the weak minded, cannot contend...in sports, or life...
 
sjordan6;1085492 said:
I am so sick and tired of the Mickey Spagnolas of the world who continue to make excuses for Deadslow and not fill up the tank of the same bus they used to drive Q-Car under.
It is amazing how just three seasons ago it was Mickey and friends who led the parade of critics of how limited Q was and how he wasnt ready.

Well in Q's third season (and parcells first) all he did was drive the bus to our first playoff game in years.

Q was not a first round draft choice, hadnt been to SBs, no Pro-Bowls, and was not on his way to the HOF!
He was thrown to the wolves as a rookie, had to learn a different offense with a different coordinator every season, and play for a lottery team with no proven weapons.

No, I am not apologizing for Q because he had his chance and made his mistakes and now he is paying for them by not being in the league.

But once, just once, I would like to hear Mickey and friends give an honest estimate of the limitations of Deadslow with the same venom they gave Q.

Let's evaluate this for a second.

Q-car didnt have nearly the weapons and talent that Deadslow has.

Q led his team to a 10-6 record (with a few loses that were real close, remember) without ever having a running game.

He had to make lemonade with the likes of a washed up emmitt or a leadfoot Hambrick.
He didnt have a receiver (TG was going thru his fragile 6 games and out stage and Galloway was no pro-bowler) and had to deal with a OL that changed weekly!
Talk about running for you life! Just think if Bledsoe( I mean Deadslow) had to play with that team and what the record would have been?

Sure, Q made his mistakes but he was in his third season for God sakes! And if you bite the bullet and admit it then you know he was actually getting better!
Now I am not apologizing for Q and saying he was the next troy but he drove the bus with the engine he was given.

And how many times did we hear parcell talk about how Q needs to learn this and he needs to do this better?

All the time! It was never good enough and he was constantly yelled at and his mistakes magnified.
And the Mickeys of the world sold their opinion to the masses. He cant do this and he cant do that.

But all he did was drive us to the playoffs with less talent, more scrutiny, more pressure, and less support.

He would have begged for a JJ or Barber that could gain a thousand yards.
Add TWO Pro-Bowl Receivers and a Pro-Bowl TE. Couple that with a OL that was serviceable.
Remember how Q was always running for his life and NEVER had time.
At least Deadslow has time to hold the ball too long.

Where r you Mickey to bash Deadslow like you did Q?

All he did was take us to the last playoff game.

Parcells, why not publicly call out Deadslow like you did Q?

No I am not saying Q was our savior.... but all he did was take us to our last playoff game with less talent and more pressure.

In his third year!

For once, just once, i want to hear an honest estimate of the Deadslow's limitations.

He is not accurate! He cant throw the deep ball! He holds the ball too long! He is very immobile! He takes too many sacks! Did I mention he is not accurate?

Sure Mickey he threw for over 3000 yards but how many yards and TDs did he leave on the field?

I know we had about 3-4 games where our kicker could have won the game but what how many times did his mistakes and "missed" opportunites" put us in that position?

Too often Deadslow is giving credit for bad throws that turn out to be great catches. TG has made him look good too many times for throws that were frankly badly thrown balls.

T.O. one TD catch for examply. TG washington td catch. TG titan td catch.

But then there are the "missed opportunities". Boy, and it is just way too many to count. T.O. has every right in the world to complain about his qb this time.
Deadslow either underthrows him (which I find so hard to understand with the speed of his receivers) or doesnt throw it.

Yes we have a very average OL that needs to play better. Not below but average. But they are not the ones throwing umpteenth ints.

Q would have tee teed on his self if he had this line with the weapons Deadslow has.

Now I will not stoop so low as to pull the race card but where are the Mickeys of the worlds and why hold a different standard for Deadslow than for Q?
If anything, he should be held to a higher standard!

And for all this talk about how Deadslow will retire if he is benched and replaced by ROMO.....

Peace! Holler! Get Gone! Bye!

I mean who cares if he wants to take his ball home if he can't play? This is a billion dollar business and a billion dollar team in net worth!

Fans pays hard earned money to watch winners and could care less if he decides to quit and take his millions and retire.
I wish I had your problem buddy!
The bottem line is he can no longer do the job and its about time that the Mickeys of the world not only admit it but write about it, just like you did to Q.

Remember all he did was take us to our last playoff game!

Its deja vue for you Deadslow and it high time you recognize that Romo is your Tom Brady with a little more spunk.

He's accurate (check out his college numbers), mobile (remember the pre-season play with the high snap), hungry,cocky, and ready to go!
All traits we as fans drool over.
How do you know he's ready until you play him? If Brady can come in as a sixth rounder and lead a team to a SB on the fly then why can't ROMO?
You kept him for a reason and the cowboys resigned for a reason.

What would you rather have? A young, mobile, cocky, accurate, and ready to play qb or a stiff, inaccurate, rattled, indecisive, veteran looking for that elusive championship?

Deadslow you are in the same boat as Kurt Warner and Evander Holyfield. Deadslow your time has passed!

NE knew it. Bills knew it! Now we know it!

And the Mickeys of the world know it too! They just won't say it.

Well Mickey I think it high time you be honest and keep it hundred with us all!

Start that engine! Fill up the tank! Put your seatbelt on (cause Jerry/Parcells will not like it). And drive that same bus you drove over Q over Deadslow.

Because even with all the tire marks you left on Q, all he did was drive us to the last playoff game we have been in!

let the debate begin!

I haven't even read one response to this thread, but the original question is that of a mental midget. To even suggest that a burn out drug addict that couldn't even manage to hold down a job that was 3rd on the depth chart in the CFL is a better QB than a guy that is in the top ten of all time in the NFL for passing yards is about as dumb of a question as you could ask. Idiocy has reached a whole level with this gem.

SS

:star:
 
I have a feelin other team's board have to be loving that we're questioning whether Bledsoe is better than Quincy. Talk about embarrassing.
 
peplaw06;1085995 said:
I have a feelin other team's board have to be loving that we're questioning whether Bledsoe is better than Quincy. Talk about embarrassing.
with the cowboys so far quincy was better
 
5Stars;1085989 said:
Clove, you get treated like you want to be treated. Has Bledsoe come out proclaiming..."Did you watch the game, all the greats have a bad game"..."I am the leader of this team"...agruing with JJ on the sideline of the AZ game! Arguing with the freaking OWNER of the Cowboys!

Has Bledsoe been know to take drugs? Has he bailed on the teams he's played for?

Does Bledsoe moan and groan about competition at the QB position? Does Bledsoe demand to have interviews with female reporters only while he's naked?

Think what you want about QC...but, the guy was and still is, a mental midget...

But, he "could of been a contenda..."! However, the weak minded, cannot contend...in sports, or life...
He was treated that way from day 1, no one knew how he would turn out, but the decisions were made about him before he made his first throw.
 
I actually felt safer when Quincy dropped back to pass than I do with Bledsoe. At least Quincy could escape the blitz occasionally
 
HeavyHitta31;1086008 said:
I actually felt safer when Quincy dropped back to pass than I do with Bledsoe. At least Quincy could escape the blitz occasionally

Only to drop the ball when he tried to throw it.
 
Yeagermeister;1086009 said:
Only to drop the ball when he tried to throw it.

They are still trying to fix the divits in Texas Stadium.....just from his dump off passes. ;)
 
Clove;1086000 said:
He was treated that way from day 1, no one knew how he would turn out, but the decisions were made about him before he made his first throw.

Really...from day one?

OK...if Parcells is sticking with Bledsoe during his hard times...but QC was better then Bledsoe, then why did Parcells get rid of QC?

I would think that if QC was as good as everyone says he is...

Then how come he is not in the NFL, today? Understand...?

If it started from day 1...
 
sjordan6;1085492 said:
it high time you recognize that Romo is your Tom Brady with a little more spunk.

From your keyboard to God's eyes, or something like that. But it's probably just wishful thinking.
 

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