Bledsoe or Quincy?

eduncan22;1086222 said:
Gotta admit...Carter wasnt that bad in 2003.

yeah, he was

let me know if I need to remind you just how lousy he was

and he's still unemployed

David
 
Fernando Fernandez;1086182 said:
If you are IMPLYING that I think Bledsoe or anybody else has a drug addiction problem, you are wrong.

You don't know - I don't know - dale don't know, etc.

But to assume Bledsoe or anyone else could NOT be drug addicts is the ultimate in naivety. I am just surprised that someone like yourself and dale, both of whom I consider to possess a high degree of intelligence, would go that route.

Oh come on. People make those types of judgments all the time. Most people I meet I'm going to assume right off the bat that they aren't drug addicts. If I see evidence contrary to that assumption, I will adjust my assumption accordingly.

Not saying I'd act on any assumption, but that assumption is made all the time. Why do you say so many people would be surprised by the people you say have drug addictions?? Because most people make that assumption.

It's done in every day scenarios and there's nothing wrong with that. If I go in for a job interview and I'm not sniffing with watery eyes or jittery and am generally well behaved, well mannered, and can form a coherent sentence, chances are the interviewer is going to assume I'm not a drug user. Then they may give me a standard piss test as part of their procedure. If the test comes back negative, I imagine they will be surprised. Why would they be surprised?? Because they assumed from my actions that I wasn't on drugs.
 
Fernando Fernandez;1086182 said:
If you are IMPLYING that I think Bledsoe or anybody else has a drug addiction problem, you are wrong.

You don't know - I don't know - dale don't know, etc.

But to assume Bledsoe or anyone else could NOT be drug addicts is the ultimate in naivety. I am just surprised that someone like yourself and dale, both of whom I consider to possess a high degree of intelligence, would go that route.
Nice try at a guilt trip, but no sale. You're skirting a line that I won't cross over. The specific reason is because I am intelligent. I'm not saying that to sound arrogant, so if I do, I apologize. I don't point the finger of judgment at someone and pronounce a stigma upon them that hasn't even got a shred of circumstantial evidence, much less empirical evidence. I simply won't do it.
 
I would sew Quincy's feet onto Drew and trade out their wrists for the quick release but i would keep Drew's rocket arm and tough as nails rawhide exterior i would then implant the heart of a lion, the reflexes of a mongoose and the brain of Roger Staubach into the head of Bledsoe and Frankenberry will have offically been born to be placed behind center.
 
Hostile;1086431 said:
Nice try at a guilt trip, but no sale. You're skirting a line that I won't cross over. The specific reason is because I am intelligent. I'm not saying that to sound arrogant, so if I do, I apologize. I don't point the finger of judgment at someone and pronounce a stigma upon them that hasn't even got a shred of circumstantial evidence, much less empirical evidence. I simply won't do it.


Wow that is pretty smart :)
 
look I will reply to the first post... I also think Mick is soft shoeing Bledsoe...

so who would I rather have...sux-sucky or sucky-sux... neither is my answer if forced to take one...neither would play qb I would use bledsoe as the kicking tee and Q would be filling gatoraid cups...

and that is the truth according to the book of Zaxor
 
Aikbach;1086518 said:
I would sew Quincy's feet onto Drew and trade out their wrists for the quick release but i would keep Drew's rocket arm and tough as nails rawhide exterior i would then implant the heart of a lion, the reflexes of a mongoose and the brain of Roger Staubach into the head of Bledsoe and Frankenberry will have offically been born to be placed behind center.


phew one is like a crow the other an albatross mix them together and all you get is a polecat (skunk)
 
Zaxor;1086528 said:
look I will reply to the first post... I also think Mick is soft shoeing Bledsoe...

so who would I rather have...sux-sucky or sucky-sux... neither is my answer if forced to take one...neither would play qb I would use bledsoe as the kicking tee and Q would be filling gatoraid cups...

and that is the truth according to the book of Zaxor
:thumbup: Fact still remains, we've had one QB get us in the playoffs since Aikman. I hope that changes this year, but I doubt it if mr Bledsoe keeps up this scared-feet tapping -fling it up underthrowing - interception addiction - choke in big game play.
 
Clove;1086530 said:
:thumbup: Fact still remains, we've had one QB get us in the playoffs since Aikman. I hope that changes this year, but I doubt it if mr Bledsoe keeps up this scared-feet tapping -fling it up underthrowing - interception addiction - choke in big game play.

It ain't gonna change..he is what he is...but I truly believe neither would ever get us to where we want to go
 
Q. Carter hands down you said it best he led us to our first playoff game in years and after he got cut it went downhill with over the hill QBs, i wished QC could keep his nose out of the coke and in the huddle
 
sjordan6;1085492 said:
I am so sick and tired of the Mickey Spagnolas of the world who continue to make excuses for Deadslow and not fill up the tank of the same bus they used to drive Q-Car under.
It is amazing how just three seasons ago it was Mickey and friends who led the parade of critics of how limited Q was and how he wasnt ready.

Well in Q's third season (and parcells first) all he did was drive the bus to our first playoff game in years.

Q was not a first round draft choice, hadnt been to SBs, no Pro-Bowls, and was not on his way to the HOF!
He was thrown to the wolves as a rookie, had to learn a different offense with a different coordinator every season, and play for a lottery team with no proven weapons.

No, I am not apologizing for Q because he had his chance and made his mistakes and now he is paying for them by not being in the league.

But once, just once, I would like to hear Mickey and friends give an honest estimate of the limitations of Deadslow with the same venom they gave Q.

Let's evaluate this for a second.

Q-car didnt have nearly the weapons and talent that Deadslow has.

Q led his team to a 10-6 record (with a few loses that were real close, remember) without ever having a running game.

He had to make lemonade with the likes of a washed up emmitt or a leadfoot Hambrick.
He didnt have a receiver (TG was going thru his fragile 6 games and out stage and Galloway was no pro-bowler) and had to deal with a OL that changed weekly!
Talk about running for you life! Just think if Bledsoe( I mean Deadslow) had to play with that team and what the record would have been?

Sure, Q made his mistakes but he was in his third season for God sakes! And if you bite the bullet and admit it then you know he was actually getting better!
Now I am not apologizing for Q and saying he was the next troy but he drove the bus with the engine he was given.

And how many times did we hear parcell talk about how Q needs to learn this and he needs to do this better?

All the time! It was never good enough and he was constantly yelled at and his mistakes magnified.
And the Mickeys of the world sold their opinion to the masses. He cant do this and he cant do that.

But all he did was drive us to the playoffs with less talent, more scrutiny, more pressure, and less support.

He would have begged for a JJ or Barber that could gain a thousand yards.
Add TWO Pro-Bowl Receivers and a Pro-Bowl TE. Couple that with a OL that was serviceable.
Remember how Q was always running for his life and NEVER had time.
At least Deadslow has time to hold the ball too long.

Where r you Mickey to bash Deadslow like you did Q?

All he did was take us to the last playoff game.

Parcells, why not publicly call out Deadslow like you did Q?

No I am not saying Q was our savior.... but all he did was take us to our last playoff game with less talent and more pressure.

In his third year!

For once, just once, i want to hear an honest estimate of the Deadslow's limitations.

He is not accurate! He cant throw the deep ball! He holds the ball too long! He is very immobile! He takes too many sacks! Did I mention he is not accurate?

Sure Mickey he threw for over 3000 yards but how many yards and TDs did he leave on the field?

I know we had about 3-4 games where our kicker could have won the game but what how many times did his mistakes and "missed" opportunites" put us in that position?

Too often Deadslow is giving credit for bad throws that turn out to be great catches. TG has made him look good too many times for throws that were frankly badly thrown balls.

T.O. one TD catch for examply. TG washington td catch. TG titan td catch.

But then there are the "missed opportunities". Boy, and it is just way too many to count. T.O. has every right in the world to complain about his qb this time.
Deadslow either underthrows him (which I find so hard to understand with the speed of his receivers) or doesnt throw it.

Yes we have a very average OL that needs to play better. Not below but average. But they are not the ones throwing umpteenth ints.

Q would have tee teed on his self if he had this line with the weapons Deadslow has.

Now I will not stoop so low as to pull the race card but where are the Mickeys of the worlds and why hold a different standard for Deadslow than for Q?
If anything, he should be held to a higher standard!

And for all this talk about how Deadslow will retire if he is benched and replaced by ROMO.....

Peace! Holler! Get Gone! Bye!

I mean who cares if he wants to take his ball home if he can't play? This is a billion dollar business and a billion dollar team in net worth!

Fans pays hard earned money to watch winners and could care less if he decides to quit and take his millions and retire.
I wish I had your problem buddy!
The bottem line is he can no longer do the job and its about time that the Mickeys of the world not only admit it but write about it, just like you did to Q.

Remember all he did was take us to our last playoff game!

Its deja vue for you Deadslow and it high time you recognize that Romo is your Tom Brady with a little more spunk.

He's accurate (check out his college numbers), mobile (remember the pre-season play with the high snap), hungry,cocky, and ready to go!
All traits we as fans drool over.
How do you know he's ready until you play him? If Brady can come in as a sixth rounder and lead a team to a SB on the fly then why can't ROMO?
You kept him for a reason and the cowboys resigned for a reason.

What would you rather have? A young, mobile, cocky, accurate, and ready to play qb or a stiff, inaccurate, rattled, indecisive, veteran looking for that elusive championship?

Deadslow you are in the same boat as Kurt Warner and Evander Holyfield. Deadslow your time has passed!

NE knew it. Bills knew it! Now we know it!

And the Mickeys of the world know it too! They just won't say it.

Well Mickey I think it high time you be honest and keep it hundred with us all!

Start that engine! Fill up the tank! Put your seatbelt on (cause Jerry/Parcells will not like it). And drive that same bus you drove over Q over Deadslow.

Because even with all the tire marks you left on Q, all he did was drive us to the last playoff game we have been in!

let the debate begin!

No person drove a bus over QC, except the lack of talent QC displayed himself

40% of QC's OL went to the pro-bowl.

QC's running game finished that season rated higher in the league than the passing game did that season.

QC exhibited no grasp of the pro game at any time of his career.

QC DID display a total lack of NFL-level talent for 3 years at Dallas

QC was dragged into the playoffs in 2003 by the #1 ranked defense and an easy-as-pie first half of the season schedule.

The answer to your question is easy, Drew Bledsoe.

Let it go dude.

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HeavyHitta31;1086008 said:
I actually felt safer when Quincy dropped back to pass than I do with Bledsoe. At least Quincy could escape the blitz occasionally

Quincy was usually fine, until he threw the ball

David
 
If I had my way I would take someone else.

However if the choice is Drew or Q.

Give me Drew everyday of the week.

Can't trust a player like Q because you never know when he is going to do something to get him suspended.

He was given an chance that few would ever have and HE ruined it.

And seeing as he is still unemployed and could not even make it on a CFL team that is all I need to know.
 
eduncan22;1086544 said:
Q Carter had a great 2003 season, the best the Boys have had for years.

21 INTs and 17 TDs=a sucky season and a total meltdown when we played any team that was not crippled by injuries or suspensions. The first 6 games of the season, every team was crippled, badly, by injuries/suspensions.

QC sucked then, he sucks now, and he will suck at any franchise stupid enough to sign him in the future. He should not have been allowed to put on an NFL team's jersey.
 
I am no big Bledsoe fan at all, but this is easy Bledsoe over Quincy and day and everyday.
 
I would take Bledsoe to QB my team and QC if I needed a bag of weed.
 

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