Bledsoe or Roethlisberger?

[iceberg]

I might have to put you on my ignore list if you don't stop fishing iceberg....I don't want to have to do that though because it's kind of immature.

I understand if you don't like my sig, but the dwarf business is a bit much.

well then we agree - the dwarf business is a bit much with or without the smiley worshipers surrounding it.

 

[Gibbs II]

Ben has more of the "intangibles" that has been ruining parts of Bledsoe's career, and I think is smarter as a player.

 

[jrumann59]

Ben has more of the "intangibles" that has been ruining parts of Bledsoe's career, and I think is smarter as a player.

What that Ben is a little more mobile. The only thing ben has in his career that bledsoe didn't is a good O-Line, good defense, a couple of solid receivers, oh and the team isn't built around him. The steelers do not expect ben to win games and they do not put ben into situations to lose games. Been is doing what everyone expected of QC, ben is on a better team. Bledsoe has a stonger arm, more accuracy but he isn't mobile, he is the prototypical drop back and throw QB

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No, Cowboy fans will generally bash any QB and player who is not a Cowboy. Once they become a Cowboy, they're untouchable.

so is it safe to say you're not a Cowboy fan then?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This whole thread is short-bus eligible.

And the people that has said they would prefer Bledsoe?

You have some serious issues.

it's all about personal preference, if you want the better passer, you would tend to take Bledsoe, if you like the young, mobile QB capable of great improversation, you'd take Ben

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Ben has more of the "intangibles" that has been ruining parts of Bledsoe's career, and I think is smarter as a player.

Ben is definitely not smarter as a player, Blesdoe just holds onto the ball for too long, and for good reason, when he has time, he can wing it with the best of them, which time he didn't have much last year, and esp. after Flozell went down, I'll admit what seperates Ben from Bledsoe is his ability to get rid of the ball quickly, but that just means he's doing what the coaches ask him to, while Bledsoe holds onto the ball because he's waiting for a big play, doesn't mean Ben is smarter

give Bledsoe as good of protection as BEn has had

 

[Galian Beast]

Bledsoe is a much better quarterback than Roethlisberger.

Big Ben, averaged only 22 attempts per game last year... He is the quintecential system quarterback.

 

[Zaxor]

Joey harrington could have won a SB with the steelers Oline last year.

and Bledsoe would have lost it for them...your point was?

 

[Jarv]

What that Ben is a little more mobile. The only thing ben has in his career that bledsoe didn't is a good O-Line, good defense, a couple of solid receivers, oh and the team isn't built around him. The steelers do not expect ben to win games and they do not put ben into situations to lose games. Been is doing what everyone expected of QC, ben is on a better team. Bledsoe has a stonger arm, more accuracy but he isn't mobile, he is the prototypical drop back and throw QB

A little more mobile ???...lol.

Bledsoe reminds me of a mature Hutch. No pocket presense and a fumbling machine.

I'd choose Ben anyday and twice on Sundays over Bledsoe.

 

[Doomsday101]

Roethlisberger: He led his team to the league's best record as a rookie and won it in his second year. Forget all this talk about potential (of which he obviously has an abundance), Roethlisberger's the more effective player and has already led his team to a Superbowl victory (something Bledsoe hasn't done.) Superbowl victories and strong play are the measuring sticks (Dilfer can only lay claim to the former; Bledsoe, at times, to the latter.) I use this same barometer in claiming that Troy Aikman was a better QB than Brett Favre or Steve Young.

He is also playing on a team that had a lot more overall talent than Dallas. I don't know how Ben would have faired had he gone to a bottom dweller in the league but when you’re on a team that is not asking you to put the ball up 30 times a game and can rely on a running attack and a stellar defense it is a big help. I think your measuring stick is way off base the team around the QB matters in the QB's success and the teams success. I take nothing away from Ben but he has not been in the same situation that Troy was in or the situation Favre was in when they 1st entered the league.

 

[iceberg]

I might have to put you on my ignore list if you don't stop fishing iceberg....I don't want to have to do that though because it's kind of immature.

I understand if you don't like my sig, but the dwarf business is a bit much.

figured as much - you LOVE to fish around saying stupid stuff for reactions but hate it when done in return to you.

deal with it.

 

[gbrittain]

Nice logic. :abuseme:

Why thank you...it is nice logic isn't it.

Ben R is not the reason they won the Superbowl, but he certainly was the missing piece to the puzzle.

There is no denying that with Ben R as the starter to include the playoffs, he is 31-4 as a starter.

In the 7 games that Ben R has not played, Pittsburgh is 4-3. Now 4-3 is a respectable record with your starting QB not playing, but not quite up to the 4 losses in 31 starts that Pittsburgh is with Ben R at the helm.

You want to make fun of my logic, be my guest. I bet you there is not a single player that Pittsburgh would trade Ben R for straight up.

You can not say that about to many players in the league.

 

[PacoReloaded]

Sorry Drew, but I would rather have Big Ben

Exactly. It's not even close. Big Ben hands down.

 

[txlonghorn14]

big ben. hands down. could you freakin imagine big ben and T.O.????? Good Lord, they would be unstoppable.

 

[theogt]

big ben. hands down. could you freakin imagine big ben and T.O.????? Good Lord, they would be unstoppable.

Kinda like how Hines Wards numbers have been spectacular since Ben stepped in?

 

[ravidubey]

Roethlisberger: He led his team to the league's best record as a rookie and won it in his second year. Forget all this talk about potential (of which he obviously has an abundance), Roethlisberger's the more effective player and has already led his team to a Superbowl victory (something Bledsoe hasn't done.) Superbowl victories and strong play are the measuring sticks (Dilfer can only lay claim to the former; Bledsoe, at times, to the latter.) I use this same barometer in claiming that Troy Aikman was a better QB than Brett Favre or Steve Young.

Troy was incredible; at the same time Bledsoe has never enjoyed the kinds of pass-blocking and run support both Ben and Troy had. Troy is way better and more talented than Ben, but of course Ben is ahead of Troy at similar points in their careers because of the team around him.

Still, I think had Ben faced a real defensive team like New England or even San Diego instead of Indy and Denver he would have lost in he playoffs. Pittsburgh's OL just manhandled the Colts and Broncos.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

He was down by 3 scores in the 2nd half....how else do you expect to get back in a the biggest game of the year unless you put it in the air?

Also 2 of the Int's were deflected by the intended receivers.....Drew did what he could, but fell short against a powerhouse packers team.

Sounds like you need a cryin towel.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Sounds like you need a cryin towel.

And big bucket along with it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

it's all about personal preference, if you want the better passer, you would tend to take Bledsoe, if you like the young, mobile QB capable of great improversation, you'd take Ben

Hmm...

Better passer?

Last time I looked Big Ben had better "passer" ratings.

 

[juck]

and Bledsoe would have lost it for them...your point was?

Why do u think this?Bledsoe would have chewed up the seahawks with that kind of protection.My point is Ben is a game manager pure and simple,not a stellar QB.