Bledsoe over the last 4 games

[Hostile]

You are the worst enemy Drew Bledsoe could ever have on this board.

You got that right.

Echoes of The Major but not as much fun.

 

[Nors]

Bledsoe's 94.4 Passing rating to date is fine - 14 TD's and only 7 Inters.

When its all said and done he'll have 3500 - 4000 yards

He needs to win a SB - clearly to be in the Aikman class.

 

[big_neil]

Now Carson Palmer. There is someone who is having a much better year than Drew.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I'm just pointing out the facts ma'am. Drew has an 81 rating the last 4 games, and that is Troy's career rating. And he's winning 75% of his games. So he's not that bad is he? You want to worship Troy and criticize Drew for having the same numbers? Point is, Drew in the first few games put up better numbers than Troy normally did, Troy was never on a 4000 yard pace for 9 games. Now we criticize Drew for being more like Troy.

Anyone can pull statistics from an arbitrary period or use slanted criteria to bolster any argument.

Here's an example - Bledsoe's statistics against division leading opponents (one could argue the merit of this particular random criteria by pointing out potential playoff opponents) -- a less than staggering 13-24 for 112 with 1 TD and a game losing INT.

Or even averaging a feeble 13 points per game against NFC opponents with a .500 record or better (again, potential playoff opponents) with a 1-2 record.

 

[Hostile]

Now Carson Palmer. There is someone who is having a much better year than Drew.

You place way too much emphasis on stats. The game is so much more than numbers.

Shame.

 

[Nors]

Winning Super Bowls gives QB's too much love sometimes.

Roger
Danny White
Aikman have eerily similar stats but are perceived differently. I Think Roger wins in all three era's. I'm not so sure on Aikman.
Would Danny White have won Super Bowls in 90's with that team?

Good stuff - I think Danny gets a bad knock sometimes.

 

[Cbz40]

That's BS. Troy was never 10-0. You were a crummy 6-10 team until Drew got here. Now you want to use perfection as your standard and imagine Troy was here (and that he was under 30 when he started to suck).

Troy's play began to deteriorate after several concussions which cut his career short.......and in his last season he probably had the most inefficient OL going through the motions of protecting him in Cowboy History.

Troy was not know for his scrambling ability but for his accuracy and his ability to win Championships. In my opinion he never sucked....

 

[jimmy40]

Troy was a hero, and I never said Drew was better. I just use Troy as the standard of perfection and remind you that he too was not perfect. He threw interceptions. He had games with 110 yards 0 TDs (and won a Super Bowl that year). And he kept them winning, as Drew has. And remember, we're comparing Drew at age 33 to Troy at age 27. Otherwise Drew has 4500 yards and 28 TDs per season.

How did Bledsoe do in that Super Bowl that he actually got to play in? 4,5,6 interceptions? What was it? I lost count.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

You got that right.

Echoes of The Major but not as much fun.

Yeah, he was wacky, but his long-winded diatribes were amusing.

I came in on the Tuna bandwagon, but I can't imagine having the nerve to show up on this board and make comparisons between Bill and Tom Landry, or even Jimmy Johnson. Comparisons between players and coaches should be made, but forgetting (or deliberately overlooking) what a coach or player meant to a particular fanbase is flat out rude. But then Pats fans are not exactly known as the sharpest knives in the drawer.

The mentality that can never see beyond stats, and minimizes intangibles, renders debates moot. Anyone who observed Aikman's accuracy and wasn't amazed by it is jaded, or intentionally obtuse. The 'great team around him' crap is just that - funny how it doesn't get pulled out for Joe Montana.

There is never going to be an accurate basis of comparison between Aikman and Bledsoe. But one could speculate about how good Bledsoe would look on that very same "great team". Since timing and intermediate range accuracy made that O hum, I suspect there is no way Drew could have driven that bus like Troy did.

Btw, there aren't many common coaching denominators between the two, but I can think of one - Ernie Zampese. Perhaps Big Neil will enlighten us about how Drew looked in THAT timing O... but more likely he'll be as familar with it as he was with Kevin Gilbride's.

 

[rcaldw]

Listen,

When you site career statistics and then compare that to a pedestrian 4 game span, just remember that Aikman's career statistics include a 1-15 rookie season and a 7-9 2nd season. It also includes his last season which statistically was way out of line with his prime. Why don't you look at Troy's 92,93,94 and 95 stats?

1992 DAL 16 302 473 63.8 3445 7.3 23 87 14 89.5
1993 DAL 14 271 392 69.1 3100 7.9 15 80 6 99.0
1994 DAL 14 233 361 64.5 2676 7.4 13 90 12 84.9
1995 DAL 16 280 432 64.8 3304 7.6 16 50 7 93.6

Now, I'm not downing Bledsoe. I'm not a Bledsoe fan, but you have to give a guy props when he deserves it. Bledsoe has produced this year and anyone who says differently is just not being objective. I still don't think he has the stuff to lead us to a Super Bowl win.

Btw, anyone who compares Danny White to Troy Aikman didn't watch either one of them enough, in my humble opinion. Danny was not a bad QB, in fact, at times a pretty good one, but he wasn't Aikman.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Btw, there aren't many common coaching denominators between the two, but I can think of one - Ernie Zampese. Perhaps Big Neil will enlighten us about how Drew looked in THAT timing O... but more likely he'll be as familar with it as he was with Kevin Gilbride's.

Eeeewwww!!!!

 

[big_neil]

How did Bledsoe do in that Super Bowl that he actually got to play in? 4,5,6 interceptions? What was it? I lost count.

Here was the scoring:

1) Favre throws a TD on his first play from scrimmage
2) Bledsoe leads them on a TD drive
3) Bledsoe leads them on another TD drive (2 passing TDs in the first quarter).
4) Desmond Howard returns one
5) Desmond Howard returns another one

Then Bledsoe had 4 INTs and couldn't catch up, but what do you have to lose in the Super Bowl? You throw it up there. Green Bay was a 14 point favorite and won 35-21. Brady won his first Super Bowl 20-17, and that featured a TD return by Ty Law on the Defense and a last second FG.

The Pats defense in 1996 was not good enough.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Anyone (and you did not have to be a Cowboys fan) who watched Aikman play was awed by his QB I & I. He was masterful in reading and reacting, quick thinking and sure, he was just a field general par excellance..seldom rattled and with tremendous whole field vision.

 

[rcaldw]

Here was the scoring:

1) Favre throws a TD on his first play from scrimmage
2) Bledsoe leads them on a TD drive
3) Bledsoe leads them on another TD drive (2 passing TDs in the first quarter).
4) Desmond Howard returns one
5) Desmond Howard returns another one

Then Bledsoe had 4 INTs and couldn't catch up, but what do you have to lose in the Super Bowl? You throw it up there. Green Bay was a 14 point favorite and won 35-21. Brady won his first Super Bowl 20-17, and that featured a TD return by Ty Law on the Defense and a last second FG.

The Pats defense in 1996 was not good enough.

4 interceptions is 4 interceptions, and that never helps your team win.

 

[Nors]

I'm a huge Aikman fan

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Bigneil, we get it, you think Bledsoe's the greatest QB to ever play the game. Yes, you have a crush on him and hope he bears your children (you'll learn the physical impossibilities of this when you're a little older and pops gives you the birds-n-bees speech, so I'll leave that to him) but please do us a favor and stop comparing him to Dallas Icons who've actually had success when it mattered.

 

[big_neil]

Listen,

Why don't you look at Troy's 92,93,94 and 95 stats?

Troy had 69 TDs39 INT 12536 yards in those 4 years. That's 16 TDs 10 INTs, 3159 yards per year.

In Drew's best 4 year period 96-99, he had:

1996 28 14 4087
1997 27 15 3706
1998 20 14 3633
1999 19 21 3981
-----------
------94 TDs 64 INT 15407 yards

That's 24 TDs 16 INT 3851 yards per year.

50% more TDs 22% less yards. That's supposed to be WAY better?

 

[Trip]

I like the Elway comparison for Bledsoe. Not the same type of QB's for sure, but looking at the numbers, I'm hoping Bledsoe is entering that final stretch where Elway became more efficient and won a couple of titles. Bledsoe has so much damn talent throwing the football, hopefully he can keep it together.

 

[big_neil]

22% more yards for Drew rather. And yes Elway only had a 79 career rating. Drew could be 78 by the end of this season.

 

[Hostile]

Yeah, he was wacky, but his long-winded diatribes were amusing.

I came in on the Tuna bandwagon, but I can't imagine having the nerve to show up on this board and make comparisons between Bill and Tom Landry, or even Jimmy Johnson. Comparisons between players and coaches should be made, but forgetting (or deliberately overlooking) what a coach or player meant to a particular fanbase is flat out rude. But then Pats fans are not exactly known as the sharpest knives in the drawer.

The mentality that can never see beyond stats, and minimizes intangibles, renders debates moot. Anyone who observed Aikman's accuracy and wasn't amazed by it is jaded, or intentionally obtuse. The 'great team around him' crap is just that - funny how it doesn't get pulled out for Joe Montana.

There is never going to be an accurate basis of comparison between Aikman and Bledsoe. But one could speculate about how good Bledsoe would look on that very same "great team". Since timing and intermediate range accuracy made that O hum, I suspect there is no way Drew could have driven that bus like Troy did.

Btw, there aren't many common coaching denominators between the two, but I can think of one - Ernie Zampese. Perhaps Big Neil will enlighten us about how Drew looked in THAT timing O... but more likely he'll be as familar with it as he was with Kevin Gilbride's.

Great post. Too bad someone will ignore it.