Bledsoe over the last 4 games

[LaTunaNostra]

Bigneil, we get it, you think Bledsoe's the greatest QB to ever play the game. Yes, you have a crush on him and hope he bears your children (you'll learn the physical impossibilities of this when you're a little older and pops gives you the birds-n-bees speech, so I'll leave that to him) but please do us a favor and stop comparing him to Dallas Icons who've actually had success when it mattered.

haha!

He must have pulled the same thing in Billsland with Jim Kelly..has to be a reason theblackbear was so hot on his trail. :laugh2:

 

[Cbz40]

Troy had 69 TDs39 INT 12536 yards in those 4 years. That's 16 TDs 10 INTs, 3159 yards per year.

In Drew's best 4 year period 96-99, he had:

1996 28 14 4087
1997 27 15 3706
1998 20 14 3633
1999 19 21 3981
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------94 TDs 64 INT 15407 yards

That's 24 TDs 16 INT 3851 yards per year.

50% more TDs 22% less yards. That's supposed to be WAY better?

He also had Emmitt running for the all time rushing record......That eats up a few passing yards.

 

[Hostile]

Troy had 69 TDs39 INT 12536 yards in those 4 years. That's 16 TDs 10 INTs, 3159 yards per year.

In Drew's best 4 year period 96-99, he had:

1996 28 14 4087
1997 27 15 3706
1998 20 14 3633
1999 19 21 3981
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------94 TDs 64 INT 15407 yards

That's 24 TDs 16 INT 3851 yards per year.

50% more TDs 22% less yards. That's supposed to be WAY better?

How many Super Bowl wins in his best 4 years?

Troy's got 3 in his best 4 years.

 

[rcaldw]

Troy had 69 TDs39 INT 12536 yards in those 4 years. That's 16 TDs 10 INTs, 3159 yards per year.

In Drew's best 4 year period 96-99, he had:

1996 28 14 4087
1997 27 15 3706
1998 20 14 3633
1999 19 21 3981
-----------
------94 TDs 64 INT 15407 yards

That's 24 TDs 16 INT 3851 yards per year.

50% more TDs 22% less yards. That's supposed to be WAY better?

Whoa there partner. You just changed the rules. You tried to compare the last 4 games of Bledsoe to Aikman's career numbers. I was saying, that if you are trying to say that Bledsoe hasn't been off a bit the last 4 games, compare his numbers to when Aikman was clicking and we were going to Super Bowls. We are talking about Bledsoe's last 4 games aren't we?

 

[mr.jameswoods]

Hey Big_neil

This was ballsy of you to post this and I agree with your logic. But the others have a point too. Aikman was utlimately a winner and had 3 rings to boot. And you have to remember, Aikman was no fan favorite until he won his first Superbowl. It's revisionist history at best when some people are posting that back then Aikman was loved by all. Puhlease, he was lambasted until 1992. Hell, even in the 1991 season, many people were arguing that Beurlein was the better QB or that Steve Walsh shouldn't have been traded.

Drew will get the Aikman comparisons once he wins a Superbowl with Dallas.

 

[Hostile]

Hey Big_neil

This was ballsy of you to post this and I agree with your logic. But the others have a point too. Aikman was utlimately a winner and had 3 rings to boot. And you have to remember, Aikman was no fan favorite until he won his first Superbowl. It's revisionist history at best when some people are posting that back then Aikman was loved by all. Puhlease, he was lambasted until 1992. Hell, even in the 1991 season, many people were arguing that Beurlein was the better QB or that Steve Walsh shouldn't have been traded.

Drew will get the Aikman comparisons once he wins a Superbowl with Dallas.

Not by me. I believed in him when he wasn't even drafted yet.

 

[Trip]

I wasn't ready to scrap the number one overall pick in the draft after 1.5 seasons, for Steve Beurlein. Or Steve Walsh. I just wasn't.

Call it revisionist history if you want, but I wasn't and neither was anyone I knew.

 

[mr.jameswoods]

I wasn't ready to scrap the number one overall pick in the draft after 1.5 seasons, for Steve Beurlein. Or Steve Walsh. I just wasn't.

Call it revisionist history if you want, but I wasn't and neither was anyone I knew.

Maybe none of the people you knew thought that way but by the looks and sounds of thousands of fans booing Aikman in Texas Stadium during those years, I wouldn't say your friends represented the majority. Having patience in a player is one thing but to suggest that most fans always believed in Troy and thought he would be special is far fetched. Even Aikman himself would confirm what I just wrote. Troy endured a lot of crap and it's unfair to him and his memory to suggest that fans always backed him which was not the case.

 

[Trip]

What's far fetched is to think the majority, as you hint, wanted Beulein or Walsh instead of Aikman.

Booing the product on the field when you're 1-15 is one thing. Not having a clue about the direction the team is going is another.

 

[Nors]

I was always in Aikman camp but JJohnson was right there with Walsh/Beurlein....

End of day he made right call

 

[Cowboy4ever]

You can compare numbers all you want, the bottom line is, Troy won Superbowls, Bledsoe hasn't. I hope he can , but he hasn't shown that he can play well against good teams. He dont react good when things aren't going his way and the d is getting a little pressure on him. So until Drew b shows he can perform against the best D's we face,, he is NO TROY, no comparrison.

 

[big_neil]

Whoa there partner. You just changed the rules. You tried to compare the last 4 games of Bledsoe to Aikman's career numbers.

Actually no, even in his SB years and his prime, Aikman averaged less than 200 yards per game and 1 TD per game.

Which for Drew is a slump. At least give Drew a full season with Dallas before criticizing him for never winning a SB in Dallas.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Actually no, even in his SB years and his prime, Aikman averaged less than 200 yards per game and 1 TD per game.

Which for Drew is a slump. At least give Drew a full season with Dallas before criticizing him for never winning a SB in Dallas.

You'll need to get out your Jr. Drew's Cluesolver club decoder ring to understand this. Set your ring to backwards - eosdelB si on namkiA.

 

[Zaxor]

okay since you brought it up

Troy 1st SB

INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS Rushing Dallas No. Yds. LG TD
Aikman 3 28 19 0
Passing Dallas Att. Comp. Yds. TD Int.
Aikman 30 22 273 4 0

Bledsoe's 1st SB

INDIVIDUAL STATISTICS Rushing New England No. Yds. LG TD
Bledsoe 1 1 1 0
Passing New England Att. Comp. Yds. TD Int.
Bledsoe 48 25 253 2 4

so Troy threw 4 TD's no int's for 273 yrds in 30 attempts
Bledsoe 2 TD's 4(FOUR) ints for 253 yrds in 48 attempts

and you don't want to even go to the 2nd SB's

 

[Zaxor]

Actually no, even in his SB years and his prime, Aikman averaged less than 200 yards per game and 1 TD per game.

Which for Drew is a slump. At least give Drew a full season with Dallas before criticizing him for never winning a SB in Dallas.

I just looked at Aikmans 1992 stats and Bledsoes 1996 stats...Troy had better comp %, TD Ratio, Yards per Pass, heck just about everything except passing attempts and yards...which maybe I should explain to you...if Troy throws Once for 70 yards it is better than...Bledsoe throwing 70 times for 1 yard each



Passing Stats Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sack/Lost Rating
Troy Aikman 473 302 3445 63.8 7.3 23 4.9 14 3.0 87 23/112 89.5


Passing Stats Player Att Comp Yds Comp % Yds/Att TD TD % INT INT % Long Sack/Lost Rating
Drew Bledsoe 623 373 4086 59.9 6.6 27 4.3 15 2.4 84 30/190 83.7


http://www.superbowl.com/history/stats/teams/NE/1996

http://www.superbowl.com/history/stats/teams/DAL/1992

 

[burmafrd]

150 passes more for a season on a team nowhere near as good. SOme of the posters here want to forget that Bledsoe NEVER had anywhere near the TEAM Aikman did.
Troy did not have to pass all that much. Also, he had better WR's and TE's mostly then Bledsoe did. BLedsoe did not have Emmitt Smith in the backfield or our O line.
True- it was a SB season for the Pats- but they just did not have the TEAM we did.

 

[kojak]

Look I have supported Bledsoe since he was brought in. But there is no way you can compare Bledsoe to Aikman. Aikman by far the better QB with rings to prove it.

Stats don't mean squat here. Go ask Dan Marino(who holds alot of NFL qb records) if he would trade his stats in for just one ring. I bet you he would.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

150 passes more for a season on a team nowhere near as good. SOme of the posters here want to forget that Bledsoe NEVER had anywhere near the TEAM Aikman did.
Troy did not have to pass all that much. Also, he had better WR's and TE's mostly then Bledsoe did. BLedsoe did not have Emmitt Smith in the backfield or our O line.
True- it was a SB season for the Pats- but they just did not have the TEAM we did.

OMG!

Burmafrd if you couldn't look at a tape of any Aikman game during his prime and any game of Bledsoe during his prime and not come away feeling that Aikman was the better QB... well I don't know what to tell you.

Here is how I break down the two QB's:

Arm Strength- Bledsoe, Drew throws a much better deep ball than Troy ever did. I think when it came to medium routes they were much closer.

Accuracy- Aikman, from short routes up those of about 20 yards. Bledsoe outside that range.

Reading defenses- Aikman. Not only did he read them better he was faster doing it.

Setting up in the pocket- Aikman. Troy set up light years faster than Drew.

Mobility- Aikman. Slight edge there.

Pocket courage- Both about the same.

Athletically they are very similar. Mentally Troy was one of the brightest QB's to ever play the game while Drew always seemed to hang more on his physical attributes while his mental part of the game never really progressed IMO.

 

[Doomsday101]

Look I have supported Bledsoe since he was brought in. But there is no way you can compare Bledsoe to Aikman. Aikman by far the better QB with rings to prove it.

Stats don't mean squat here. Go ask Dan Marino(who holds alot of NFL qb records) if he would trade his stats in for just one ring. I bet you he would.

I agree. This is also a different team. As for the rings that is a team achievement not a QB achievement. Had Marino had the defense and running game the Cowboys had who is to say he would not have had 3 rings or more. The fact that guys Marino and Fouts are in the HOF despite not having a SB title says a lot about how great they were.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Everyone wants to keep whining about Bledsoe over the last 4 games, but here are the numbers:

61/95 (64%) 662 yards 3 TD 3 INT 7 YPA 81.1 Rating.

3 Wins 1 Loss

Those numbers are remarkably similar to Troy Aikman's career statistics (61% 1 TD per game, 7 YPA 81 Rating).

Here ya go bud. Rules to being a Cowboys fan:

#1 No coach will ever be better than Tom Landry.
#2 No quarterback will ever be better than Roger Staubach or Troy Aikman.
#3 No running back will ever be better than Emmitt Smith.

Learn to except those basic testaments of faith and you'll live longer.