Bob Sturm on Schoonmaker

[Stash]

I know Kellen did.....not sure what Mike or SHottenheimer is trying to do but I don't recall the Packers running a lot of 12 personnel. I don't think we know what the hell they want to do lol.

McCarthy has never run a lot of 12 personnel.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/2023/02/21/cowboys-mike-mccarthy-tight-end-usage-history/

 

[12+88=7]

Dont care the red flags were nothing

Other teams including Dallas who had the medical records thought otherwise.

 

[Jumbo075]

As a Michigan fan I like Schoomaker. I think he is solid. However, I am not sure he is much better than Ferguson or Hendershot so why waste the pick. I would have picked the Oline man from Florida

Because they need two starting tight ends in 12 personnel, and Schoonmaker and Ferguson will both start. There was a run on tight ends in the 2nd round, with 5 selected in the 2nd round. The Cowboys obviously were looking for a TE who is more than a receiver. Among the top 5 TE's picked (Kincaid, La Porta, Mayer, Musgrave and Schoonmaker, Schoonmaker may be the best blocker amoung all of them, who also has good potential as a receiver. Ferguson also was drafted last year in the 4th round (similar to Schultz) because he has both blocking and receiving ability. If the Cowboys want a more effective run game, then they NEED TE's that can block. Kincaid, La Porta and Musgrave are poor blockers at best, and more resemble large WR's.

As for skipping on Torrance at #58, they obviously have a plan at Left Guard, which many fans and pundits apparently don't believe. If you include Tyler Smith as an option at Left Guard, they currently have on their team players drafted in the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 7th rounds, plus an undrafted college FA they signed yesterday to compete for the starting LG spot. The Cowboys have drafted 5 Olinemen in the last 3 drafts, 6 in the last 4 drafts. They also landed RT Terence Steele as an undrafted player who became a full-time starter last year, and was playing above average as a right tackle, and was near elite in run blocking.

The Cowboys have already plucked 3 new starting Olinemen from the draft and college free agent ranks since 2020 - Tyler Smith, Tyler Biadasz, and Terence Steele. Biadasz made the Pro Bowl last year, Steele is an above average run blocking RT, and Tyler Smith surprised a lot of people with how well he played at LT last year. With the additional of Asim Richards in the 2023 draft, the Cowboys also have draft picks Josh Ball, Matt Farniok, and Matt Waletzdo from the last 2 drafts. They are obviously in the process of reloading their Oline, and have a plan to move on from future HOF OT Tyron Smith.

Fans and Pundits need to calm down about Oline, and get over their desire to find a Travis Kelce clone for the TE position. Schoonmaker, in combination with Ferguson from last year's draft, will be a more than adequate plan to replace Dalton Schultz (who wasn't exactly a Pro-Bowl player).

 

[Section446]

Waste of pick, doesn't help Dak at all.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Evey team in the league passed on Washington in the 2nd round. All of them and quite a few of them passed on him in the 3rd round as well. I suspect that they didn't pass on him because of nothing. It sounds like he has knee problems in both knees.

He had minor knee swelling. Idc his upside at least is crazy. Schoonbummmer is right now what he always will be. Another schultz just cheaper

 

[rambo2]

He had minor knee swelling. Idc his upside at least is crazy. Schoonbummmer is right now what he always will be. Another schultz just cheaper

We will see if you are right or if every team in the league was right.

 

[CCBoy]

25 isn’t old. 8)

As if about five years isn't long enough time to secure another tight end if need be...

 

[CCBoy]

We will see if you are right or if every team in the league was right.

I'll always side with a new Cowboys 'rook.'

 

[CowboyFrog]

He had minor knee swelling. Idc his upside at least is crazy. Schoonbummmer is right now what he always will be. Another schultz just cheaper

If he is Shultz in the passing game but blocks better thats a win..Shultz problem and why he isnt here is because his blocking was terrible, literally cost us points in several games.

 

[Ken]

2 problems

1. We are not talking Schoon vs Schultz. We are talking Schoon vs all the other players available at 58 like Torrance

2. If the best you can say about your rd 2 pick is “ not the worst pick ever” that tells hs we made a mistake

The Cowboys didn't like Torrence, and after watching him, I see why. He has cement blocks for shoes.

Not what they want at LG.

 

[Hennessy_King]

If he is Shultz in the passing game but blocks better thats a win..Shultz problem and why he isnt here is because his blocking was terrible, literally cost us points in several games.

We need playmakers on this offense we dont have any. This kid like schultz cant break a tackle to save their lives

 

[CowboyFrog]

We need playmakers on this offense we dont have any. This kid like schultz cant break a tackle to save their lives

you also need chain movers and redzone targets who can block...Lamb, TP, Cooks, Vaughn, Turpin lets see what MM can do with these playmakers before we go too nutz over the draft.

 

[Vintage]

Will Herandez was a Cowboyszone favorite too.

I'd love to revisit all of these guys we want and see how they faired in the league. They rarely do btw.

Don’t forget the slobbering over Warmack and Cooper.

 

[Hennessy_King]

you also need chain movers and redzone targets who can block...Lamb, TP, Cooks, Vaughn, Turpin lets see what MM can do with these playmakers before we go too nutz over the draft.

3 Out of the 5 have never done anything on offense for this team lol. Might as well throw tolbert in there too lol

 

[CowboyFrog]

3 Out of the 5 have never done anything on offense for this team lol. Might as well throw tolbert in there too lol

Cooks has done things he just got to this team, would i love a full stable of 5 all pro playmakers...sure, would i give the defense we are building up to get it..no

 

[quickccc]

As a Michigan fan I like Schoomaker. I think he is solid. However, I am not sure he is much better than Ferguson or Hendershot so why waste the pick. I would have picked the Oline man from Florida

Becuz it's obviously some concerns and skepticsm about Ferguson and Hendershot that the club was on sold on and made great attempts to upgrade thru the NFL draft.

 

[quickccc]

We just dunno about Scoon's projection and potential , McCarthy made comments that he has better athleticism and movement skills than what he is being given credit for.

I'd be interested to see his separation skills ..his run after catch skills, ...good that they like his blocking skills, but that's not what i draft a TE as early as the 2nd round in.
The impact TEs are the ones that impact the passing game and are difficult to cover,

Maybe he can quickly develop into a Mark Andrews- George Kittle type TE.
That's my biggest hope.

 

[CowboyFrog]

We just dunno about Scoon's projection and potential , McCarthy made comments that he has better athleticism and movement skills than what he is being given credit for.

I'd be interested to see his separation skills ..his run after catch skills, ...good that they like his blocking skills, but that's not what i draft a TE as early as the 2nd round in.
The impact TEs are the ones that impact the passing game and are difficult to cover,

Maybe he can quickly develop into a Mark Andrews- George Kittle type TE.
That's my biggest hope.

If he can become almost Kittle this offense is well improved.. that would make him the steal of the draft, would love to see this be the case!

 

[Jumbo075]

Becuz it's obviously some concerns and skepticsm about Ferguson and Hendershot that the club was on sold on and made great attempts to upgrade thru the NFL draft.

I disagree. For certain personnel groups, the Cowboys need two starting quality tight ends. I believe they have confidence in Ferguson, but needed another Ferguson type player to start in two tight-end sets. It is Hendershot and McKeon they lack confidence in, not Ferguson.

 

[Hennessy_King]

We just dunno about Scoon's projection and potential , McCarthy made comments that he has better athleticism and movement skills than what he is being given credit for.

I'd be interested to see his separation skills ..his run after catch skills, ...good that they like his blocking skills, but that's not what i draft a TE as early as the 2nd round in.
The impact TEs are the ones that impact the passing game and are difficult to cover,

Maybe he can quickly develop into a Mark Andrews- George Kittle type TE.
That's my biggest hope.

Go watch his college film it aint there. His athletic testing numbers do not match what he did on the field