Both Kowalski and Arkin looking good?

[Risen Star]

That's funny, I don't recall Church or Beasley doing much of anything last year. Certainly not enough to think they are anything more than average players.

They aren't even considered average players outside of this fan base.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

HAHA That's funny you think I haven't been a Cowboys fan for long, seeing that I am 30 and been a Cowboys fan my whole life. You know before the 90's dynasty. Besides who are you to say who is and isn't a fan, I never said the OL has been great. I said I cheer for everybody on the team to be great. Get your head out your..... and stop acting like every fan has to be debby downer like you. If your not happy RG3 hype is going on over there in Washington and would be glad for you to jump on their bandwagon. For me its like this, new season, new coaches, new players. Last I checked every team starts at 0-0 and untill the final whistle blows in the Superbowl this season we do not know who will be the Champion. Nobody knows, Cleveland Browns could be Superbowl Champs thats what this league is now. A chance to go from worst to best and a matter of one season. Can't stand wannabe fans like you, always got to cry and complain about everything, its Jerrys fault, Romo's fault yadda yadda. I hear it all the time from you "realist" fans that are not being real at all because we have a decent team that can compete with any team in the league and thats being real

 

[Irvin88_4life]

obviously you have not been a fan for long.

Considering how many years the O line has truly been at best mediocre and mostly bad. But then some like to live in a fantasy world where as Dandy Don once said
"If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we would all have a Merry Christmas"

That post I just wrote for some reason didn't have you reply but it was meant for you and any other fan that is "real"

 

[Kaiser]

He worked for the team last year and told us how good Leary was looking. How did that pan out when the games started? A team starving for even functional interior line play and Leary never even got a sniff of playing time.

Saying someone looks good for an undrafted rookie is a lot different than saying they should be starting as a rookie. An UFDA making the team like Leary or Beasley did is a bonus. Someone could have made the same comments about Romo or Austin after their first year and that would have been shortsighted also.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

OL are vital. Ts, Gs, C. To downplay their importance makes it hard for me to take anything you say seriously. I'd trade an entire secondary for two great Gs.

This team isn't a contender for one reason and one reason alone. They lose the line of scrimmage consistently on both sides of the ball. Until that changes, they will never win.

It seems you don't understand the importance of a good secondary. There is a reason teams draft several corners a draft. And typically you'll see teams drafting for their secondary in the early rounds before they address their OL. There is a reason for that too.

OL is important, but secondary is equally, if not more important in today's passing league.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Of course positive reports this time of year should be tempered. Negative, too. The point is its silly to be antagonistic about them appearing .

That's interesting since only yesterday I read an unnamed someone's antagonistic post about a negative camp report.!

I agree it's early and everyone should temper their hopes and fears with regard to camp reports, especially since both lines are questionable and any one on one battles between them leave the "winners" somewhat suspect as well. I do like hearing the positive technical report from Nate, it has a litlle merit to it, IMO.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

..and what do you see?

I see a lot better player with potential than most see. I saw a guy taken out of position, put at center, and do pretty well. He has a great head for the game. He's the type of player who catches on quickly to his assignments. He has good form and technique. Is he a little weak? Yes, you can see that too. But I also see a guy who can get passed that by training and putting on some weight. I see a young guy with a lot of potential who needed a few years to get stronger, just what our scouts said. He has had that time now. Before that time, Dallas fans what him to develop now now now! It doesn't work like that. It takes time, and Arkin is no exception. He looked OK last year. I expect him to look better this year. Given what the scouts had already said last year, I don't get why fans and the Broaduss' of the world are so down on him. It's like they can't read or something.

 

[Ren]

Sure there is a reason to dismiss and it's just what I stated. We hear this every year about multiple players and they never do anything in the regular season. It's great to hear good reports but I now dismiss them all until I see it on the field. They will never again get my hopes up until I see it on Sundays for real. That's when I'll start believing and get excited.

You need some perspective, good for Arkin doesn't mean he's gonna step inn and start or even contribute on Sundays this season. What it does mean is that someone we thought was completely useless and hopeless might have some potential after all. How is that a bad thing?

 

[CoCo]

I am no pessimist but I have no problem with any fan who reserves judgment on our O-line until they see them in regular season action.

Regarding Broaddus, I listen/read him along with everyone else I can to get Cowboys info. I think he has some interest is seeing what Kowalski can become but he is certainly not proclaiming him starting material at this point. And from all I've read he has simply said that Arkin has looked ok at times. More precisely, Kowalski & Arkin as the G's right now have had a few good moments but its offered with a sizeable grain of salt - again less so with Kowalski.

Regarding Leary in 2012, I certainly don't recall Broaddus pumping Leary's play. I suspect he was pumping his potential but the kid got overwhelmed and couldn't contribute. I think its a bit slanted to suggest Broaddus was way out in left field on Leary last year. In the same manner, if Arkin gets cut, don't claim Broaddus was way off in his positive comments. He's making some observations but he's been anything but over the top on any of these guys in the 2103 camp.

 

[DanTanna]

Same crap players will get us the same crap results. No amount of spinning and "reporting" will change their talent level.

 

[burmafrd]

HAHA That's funny you think I haven't been a Cowboys fan for long, seeing that I am 30 and been a Cowboys fan my whole life. You know before the 90's dynasty. Besides who are you to say who is and isn't a fan, I never said the OL has been great. I said I cheer for everybody on the team to be great. Get your head out your..... and stop acting like every fan has to be debby downer like you. If your not happy RG3 hype is going on over there in Washington and would be glad for you to jump on their bandwagon. For me its like this, new season, new coaches, new players. Last I checked every team starts at 0-0 and untill the final whistle blows in the Superbowl this season we do not know who will be the Champion. Nobody knows, Cleveland Browns could be Superbowl Champs thats what this league is now. A chance to go from worst to best and a matter of one season. Can't stand wannabe fans like you, always got to cry and complain about everything, its Jerrys fault, Romo's fault yadda yadda. I hear it all the time from you "realist" fans that are not being real at all because we have a decent team that can compete with any team in the league and thats being real

well I have been a fan for about twice as long as you have and have seen it all. And frankly you sound like someone that when the facts do not add up the way you want them you ignore them.

Fact is that this team has been horrible at developing O linemen. Since the 90's frankly. But then again you seem to have trouble with reality.

 

[burmafrd]

It seems you don't understand the importance of a good secondary. There is a reason teams draft several corners a draft. And typically you'll see teams drafting for their secondary in the early rounds before they address their OL. There is a reason for that too.

OL is important, but secondary is equally, if not more important in today's passing league.

wow. just wow. But then not surprising. Spent a 1st and traded up and spent a lot of money on the secondary last year. Guess what? Same record as the year before.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

wow. just wow. But then not surprising. Spent a 1st and traded up and spent a lot of money on the secondary last year. Guess what? Same record as the year before.

It seems you have more confidence in JG's play calling and game management than I do.

 

[CoCo]

It seems you have more confidence in JG's play calling and game management than I do.

To be fair, EVERYONE has more confidence in Garrett than you do. (NTTAWWT)

 

[RoyTheHammer]

That's funny, I don't recall Church or Beasley doing much of anything last year. Certainly not enough to think they are anything more than average players.

Church didn't do anything.. he was hurt all year.

Beasley however played very well in the limited oppertunity he got, imo. You could tell he had a good rapport with Tony and got us some clutch first downs along the way. I think he could develop into a big part of this offense if we stick with him and let him continue to develop.

 

[Risen Star]

wow. just wow. But then not surprising. Spent a 1st and traded up and spent a lot of money on the secondary last year. Guess what? Same record as the year before.

They could do it every year and nothing will change. They don't matter when you can't win at the line of scrimmage.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

It seems you don't understand the importance of a good secondary. There is a reason teams draft several corners a draft. And typically you'll see teams drafting for their secondary in the early rounds before they address their OL. There is a reason for that too.

OL is important, but secondary is equally, if not more important in today's passing league.

What?

 

[5Stars]

What?

Risen Star wants 12 linemen on the team on both defense and offense. The other players are irrelevant.

Could you imagine? An oline man at QB, one a running back, 5 on the oline, a couple receiving, etc. Same on defense, the d line, an dlineman playing the CB spots, one playing safety, one playing mlb, one playing...well you get the picture.

Essentially, Risen Star want a rugby team instead of a football team.

 

[gimmesix]

we have heard this before and in the end it meant nothing. Arkin was supposedly looking good at camp last year. NADA

Of course, it didn't help his development that Dallas tried to move him to center last year to cover for all the injuries.

I'm not convinced on him making the team this year, but Dallas needs to give him every opportunity to prove himself by keeping him at guard. Fortunately, we seem to have four healthy centers right now.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

OL are vital. Ts, Gs, C. To downplay their importance makes it hard for me to take anything you say seriously. I'd trade an entire secondary for two great Gs.

This team isn't a contender for one reason and one reason alone. They lose the line of scrimmage consistently on both sides of the ball. Until that changes, they will never win.

You know you could just make the above your sig and post pictures of foam fingers and mascots. No one could tell the difference.