BR: Garrett isn't coaching for his job (speculation)

[BigD5]

I think there are 20-25 coaches in the NFL today that would have already won the division under the exact same circumstances if they were the coach of the Cowboys right now

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

No, he had a MUCH better team, and an owner that let him pick his own staff, and run things the way he saw fit, at least for a time. Give him this team, then much like his time with the Dolphins, he doesn't win anything.

We have a much better team than the one Jimmy took over in 1989. That team was awful.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I'm more worried about Romo's decline (maybe this back thing has been going on longer than we know)and Jerry's shocking ability to screw up areas of the team (this year it's the defense)

 

[Novacek84]

We have a much better team than the one Jimmy took over in 1989. That team was awful.

I'm pretty sure if Jimmy had this team this awful NFC East would have been wrapped up in Chicago on Dec. 9 and we'd be resting guys this last game. Probably 15-20 other coaches could have made that happen too, but not Garrett!

 

[visionary]

Listening to JJ talk about Orton, saying "we spent a lot of money several years ago for just this circumstance...and signed Kyle Orton for over 10 million dollars (emphasized) three years ago, just for this very occasion." So, one thing is apparent. Jerry has lost all sense of time. As for Orton, I think he's got a lot of pressure on him ,which is a bit unfair, but Jerry is right. They did give him a lot of money to be a backup.

this is classic jerry thinking
he confuses player talent with the amount of money he paid to the player

news flash to jerry: even though you over-paid for mediocre players they are still mediocre players. they will not suddenly start performing at a pro bowl level just because you were stupid enough to over-pay for their services

 

[visionary]

What are you talking about?

Garrett had a 26-3 halftime lead against the Packers and ran the ball what? 5 times in the 2nd half? The Packers ran the ball twice as much as the Cowboys did and they were behind?

Garrett had a successful running game going in that game and abandoned it. You don't think that shold be questioned? You think Garrett handled that game correctly? Everything was done the way it should have been? If you think that, I can't help you.

Garrett was responsible for that loss. The fact that this is his 4th year at the HC position and still makes these mindless errors tells me that he is not capable of managing a game properly. End of story.

great post

heck, GB, the team down by 23 points ran it more in the second half than we did

completely crazy that fans actually find a way to excuse this HC

 

[Picksix]

Well, that's the point. Jimmy would be a guy that would come here and improve the entire organization because he actually knows what he is doing. He might not win with this current group but he'd weed out the deadwood.

Well, I think Garrett's done a good job of that during his time. I agree that Jimmy would be better, sure. I just don't think he'd be much more successful.

 

[khiladi]

In all honesty, Jason has had 2 seasons in a row where our team has been desimated by injuries. He probably deserves one more season.

No he doesn't... The portion of the team where he has control over has been just fine. He's gotten enough excuses.

 

[Picksix]

We have a much better team than the one Jimmy took over in 1989. That team was awful.

Yeah, and we have a much better record than that team did, too. If you mean that Jimmy was able to take a terrible team and make them champions in a short time, I see the point, but Jimmy was also blessed with a boatload of draft picks (and he'll be the first to tell you he missed as often as he hit), and no salary cap to deal with.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

We'll have more injuries next year. Jerry loves drafting players with injury problems.

 

[visionary]

Don't worry. We know you'll continue to stand out in the storm and curse the rain enough for all of us.

at least he (and others of us) will not be standing out in the storm trying to convince everyone the sun is out

 

[wileedog]

Yeah, and we have a much better record than that team did, too. If you mean that Jimmy was able to take a terrible team and make them champions in a short time, I see the point, but Jimmy was also blessed with a boatload of draft picks (and he'll be the first to tell you he missed as often as he hit), and no salary cap to deal with.

He was also blessed with, at the time, a non-meddling GM/Owner.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Yeah, and we have a much better record than that team did, too. If you mean that Jimmy was able to take a terrible team and make them champions in a short time, I see the point, but Jimmy was also blessed with a boatload of draft picks (and he'll be the first to tell you he missed as often as he hit), and no salary cap to deal with.

I could see the improvement on that team during Jimmy's second year . Every season we had improvement. I see nothing with this team. If anything the defense is worse than last year. The coaching blunders remain the same.

 

[khiladi]

I'm not saying Garrett's a top 10 coach. We all know he's been afraid to stop Romo from checking out of runs over and over. But I just don't see the magic coach available unless it's David Shaw at Stanford

Please prove that "we all know", considering Garrett's track record has always been not to run the ball, even when Romo had 'no power'.

 

[visionary]

That's a valid point.

And if he (Garrett) were fired after Sunday... I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. I can see the justification either way. I don't think it's cut & dry.

Regardless of the record. I think Wade was a car-wreck as a HC. His success was achieved off of a roster built by Parcells.

But worse, this team quit on Phillips. Not just once, but several times, like the "We Quit" game to close out the 2008 season.

Loses are one thing, but when the whole team quits, that's something else entirely.

I've never seen the team quit under Garrett... That I'll give him credit for.

maybe you missed the NO game

 

[visionary]

Yeah.

What's the other choice?

Fetal position.

so because we dont have a choice we cant have an opinion?

 

[BoysFan4ever]

heck, GB, the team down by 23 points ran it more in the second half than we did

completely crazy that fans actually find a way to excuse this HC[/quote]


There were various articles posted on here quoting Packer players that they could not believe the Cowboys got away from the run the second half.

They basically said THANKS FOR BEING SO STUPID. The Cowboys handed that game to them on a silver platter. Worse coaching job you'll see this year & probably many more.

 

[khiladi]

I'm going to see how this team reacts without Romo, if down, to see who this team 'believes' in to lead them to victory...

 

[visionary]

Yeah, and we have a much better record than that team did, too. If you mean that Jimmy was able to take a terrible team and make them champions in a short time, I see the point, but Jimmy was also blessed with a boatload of draft picks (and he'll be the first to tell you he missed as often as he hit), and no salary cap to deal with.

the problem is that Garrett groupies cant have it both ways

if he has significant input into roster and coaching hires then he is responsible for the debacle we are seeing for the last 3 years

if he does not have input that any self respecting HC would have and is neutered by jerry and is his lap dog, should he not have the back bone and self respect to resign?

 

[cowboyschmps3]

You believe Jerry!? I don't lol