BR: Garrett isn't coaching for his job (speculation)

[MichaelWinicki]

maybe you missed the NO game

Nope.

I saw a defense that qualified as one of the worst in the history of the NFL.

Lack of talent does not equal "quit".

 

[MichaelWinicki]

so because we dont have a choice we cant have an opinion?

Sure you can have an opinion. Doesn't mean yours is right or mine is wrong or visa versa. I don't get too bent out of shape on someone's opinion.

 

[visionary]

Nope.

I saw a defense that qualified as one of the worst in the history of the NFL.

Lack of talent does not equal "quit".

perhaps we saw 2 different games
that team quit that day

 

[MichaelWinicki]

perhaps we saw 2 different games
that team quit that day

Nope. I didn't see it that way.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

perhaps we saw 2 different games
that team quit that day

The Ticket and even the Cowboys Official Postgame Show said they saw quit.

But some people must protect the one supposed feather in Garrett's sad cap.

 

[DallasDomination]

That doesnt mean JG won't look to replace the defensive coordinator and make some other changes. Plus Jason Garrett has done ok drafting. Any good organization doesn't change coaches every 2-3.

 

[visionary]

Sure you can have an opinion. Doesn't mean yours is right or mine is wrong or visa versa. I don't get too bent out of shape on someone's opinion.

i never said that, if you have a different opinion that is fine

here is what you posted

"MichaelWinicki said: ↑
Yeah.

What's the other choice?

Fetal position."

basically saying that there is no point

 

[links18]

In all honesty, Jason has had 2 seasons in a row where our team has been desimated by injuries. He probably deserves one more season.

And then when its three seasons and then four seasons of injuries what then? Injuries are the reality in today's NFL. If you don't have a plan to survive injuries, you really don't have a plan at all.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

That doesnt mean JG won't look to replace the defensive coordinator and make some other changes. Plus Jason Garrett has done ok drafting. Any good organization doesn't change coaches every 2-3.

Great. Another defensive Coordinator move. That will be 3 in 3 years. I agree he should be gone but what makes you think that will make any difference if indeed Garrett had any imput in the Kiffen hire?

 

[Doomsay]

Mediocre organizations (and fans) always believe they are a coach away. Or a free agent away or an Orton away.

JG is not coaching for his job. Nor should he be.

Garrett should have been coaching for his job from day one, the guy hasn't remotely earned his office.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I don't know if I can take another year of all this stacking and processing.

Today's NFL isn't how it was a decade ago, you don't need 3 full offseasons to rebuild.

Garrett was totally out of excuses, one game away from being the offensive coordinator in Cincinatti (if he was that lucky) or something, then this happens with Romo's back. Unbelievable.

 

[visionary]

The Ticket and even the Cowboys Official Postgame Show said they saw quit.

But some people must protect the one supposed feather in Garrett's sad cap.

we all saw it
some choose to ignore the obvious

 

[DallasDomination]

I don't know if I can take another year of all this stacking and processing.

Today's NFL isn't how it was a decade ago, you don't need 3 full offseasons to rebuild.

Garrett was totally out of excuses, one game away from being the offensive coordinator in Cincinatti (if he was that lucky) or something, then this happens with Romo's back. Unbelievable.

I like how you sent Garrett to Cincinnati with all the other Cowboys castoffs lol.

 

[khiladi]

Romo is the reason this team doesn't quit. Even the HC believes in him. He just throws him under the bus when they lose.

 

[Idgit]

I had the same question. What do you mean we can't question game management? If there's anything we don't see, it's the weekly preparation. But we can all see the mismanagement of time outs, challenge flags, and other end-of-game situations.

Through last season, anyway, we were literally the most effective team in the league when it came to using challenges effectively. That doesn't stop our fans from considering it a weakness for some reason. There's a limit to how objective fans are willing to be when their team isn't winning enough games. This is a good example of that.

 

[Picksix]

I could see the improvement on that team during Jimmy's second year . Every season we had improvement. I see nothing with this team. If anything the defense is worse than last year. The coaching blunders remain the same.

Yes, but again, that was a much different situation, with a much different culture. The defense may be worse, but has Garrett been able to pick his own defensive coordinator? No, I think that was Jerry's call. And it would have been hard not to have improved from that 1-15 season.

 

[Picksix]

the problem is that Garrett groupies cant have it both ways

if he has significant input into roster and coaching hires then he is responsible for the debacle we are seeing for the last 3 years

if he does not have input that any self respecting HC would have and is neutered by jerry and is his lap dog, should he not have the back bone and self respect to resign?

I can't argue either of those points. And yeah, you could have put me in the "Garrett Groupie" category before this year. But my faith has dissolved. I admit that when I heard the news about Romo yesterday, the thought that this would give Jerry an excuse to keep Garrett went through my mind. My point is, though, we make such a big deal about getting rid of Garrett, I think with the false premise that the next guy, whoever he may be, will be better, and run a more successful team. I don't buy into that. If you were to ask me whether I think Garrett has been a success or a faliure to this point, I'd have to go with failure. However, I think every bit as much, he's been put in a position to fail, and I have a hard time seeing any coach overcoming that. I would love to think that a guy like Gruden, or Wisenhunt, or Lovie, could be significantly more successful in this environment. I just think that Jerry has become the next Al Davis, and that's too much to overcome.

 

[visionary]

I can't argue either of those points. And yeah, you could have put me in the "Garrett Groupie" category before this year. But my faith has dissolved. I admit that when I heard the news about Romo yesterday, the thought that this would give Jerry an excuse to keep Garrett went through my mind. My point is, though, we make such a big deal about getting rid of Garrett, I think with the false premise that the next guy, whoever he may be, will be better, and run a more successful team. I don't buy into that. If you were to ask me whether I think Garrett has been a success or a faliure to this point, I'd have to go with failure. However, I think every bit as much, he's been put in a position to fail, and I have a hard time seeing any coach overcoming that. I would love to think that a guy like Gruden, or Wisenhunt, or Lovie, could be significantly more successful in this environment. I just think that Jerry has become the next Al Davis, and that's too much to overcome.

all we fans want (you and me included) is an organization that is making smart decisions and making progress to put a legitimate contender on the field

unfortunately we are seeing no signs of it

 

[Idgit]

I can't argue either of those points. And yeah, you could have put me in the "Garrett Groupie" category before this year. But my faith has dissolved. I admit that when I heard the news about Romo yesterday, the thought that this would give Jerry an excuse to keep Garrett went through my mind. My point is, though, we make such a big deal about getting rid of Garrett, I think with the false premise that the next guy, whoever he may be, will be better, and run a more successful team. I don't buy into that. If you were to ask me whether I think Garrett has been a success or a faliure to this point, I'd have to go with failure. However, I think every bit as much, he's been put in a position to fail, and I have a hard time seeing any coach overcoming that. I would love to think that a guy like Gruden, or Wisenhunt, or Lovie, could be significantly more successful in this environment. I just think that Jerry has become the next Al Davis, and that's too much to overcome.

Well, you can argue that the last three years haven't actually been a debacle at all. That's a strong emotional overreaction in itself.

I'd say we've underperformed each if those seasons, in part due to coaching but mostly for other reasons that have been beyond the head coach's control.

 

[NJ22]

I hate Jerry

He really is a piece of garbage. I think this may be the first time since he has been at the helm where the fan backlash if really does decide to keep losing will be felt in his wallet. I am done with them until there is a change. It's the only card we have to play. Let the other losers celebrate 8-8 every year, just so Jerry can be Comfortable with his adopted son as head coach. That is all this is about. Jerry being comfortable. Parcell's turned around a crap 5-11 team and Jerry could not care less about that, he was "uncomfortable" and he could not take that so he forced T.O on him and that was the beginning of the end.