BR: Tony Romo Has Not Only Been the Best Version of Himself, He Might Be the NFL MVP

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Smart and productive football. The only thing that makes me hesitate when reading "best season ever, etc." is that he doesn't have the same arm strength and negates the team from going deep. That shows his intelligence and decision making has had to improve to compensate. But that aspect has hindered the offense's potential as well = no deep balls. The stats are amazing but that aspect (deep ball) is not available as well. All centered on execution to get down the field in stages. Almost too much pressure for him to be productive on every snap.
 
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Smart and productive football. The only thing that makes me hesitate when reading "best season ever, etc." is that he doesn't have the same arm strength and negates the team from going deep. That shows his intelligence and decision making has had to improve to compensate. But that aspect has been heavily compensated for as well = no deep balls and reliance on the running game.

Remember that touchdown pass to Williams, when Romo escaped from a sure J.J. Watt sack? Romo threw that ball 62 yards in the air. When Romo is healthy and has a decent range of motion, he has the same arm strength. Romo hasn't been healthy.
 

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Remember that touchdown pass to Williams, when Romo escaped from a sure J.J. Watt sack? Romo threw that ball 62 yards in the air. When Romo is healthy and has a decent range of motion, he has the same arm strength. Romo hasn't been healthy.

I agree in that I don't think he is healthy. This was more of a "is having his best season" but imagine if he wasn't short handed type of thing. Team would be lost without him throughout his career. Saved many faces and jobs;) I do think you will see a Romo similar to Peyton in that his arm strength is hit and miss from here on out.
 
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You're certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong. Romo, as he has been for the last eight years or so, is the MVP of this team.

The team has ran the ball more THIS year than it probably has the last 3 (8-8) Seasons combined. Now of course that is over the top as it would not be more than those combined but it is far superior number than the previous 3 years. For the previous three seasons we have heard how the running game was a priority but it would always get scrapped after a game or two and it was on the QB to throw the ball and avoid the sack due to shotty oline work.

This year is different. They have made an effort to improve the line the last few years and they went into the season not only saying they were going to run the ball more, they went into the season proving they were going the run the ball more by doing it.

Running the ball more with improved oline play in both the run game AND the passing game is the difference between 8-8 and a winning season.

So..you are entitled to your opinion as well...even if it is wrong. Romo was the MVP for the last few years....he is not the mvp THIS year.
 

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You usually decide who really is MVP (of team or league) based on who you can least do without.
For Dallas, the answer to that is easy....it's Romo.
Murray might be considered by some to be the most outstanding player this year, but the team MVP is for sure Romo.
 

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You usually decide who really is MVP (of team or league) based on who you can least do without.
For Dallas, the answer to that is easy....it's Romo.
I don't know, we'd be pretty screwed if Ladouceur went down.
 
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The team has ran the ball more THIS year than it probably has the last 3 (8-8) Seasons combined. Now of course that is over the top as it would not be more than those combined but it is far superior number than the previous 3 years. For the previous three seasons we have heard how the running game was a priority but it would always get scrapped after a game or two and it was on the QB to throw the ball and avoid the sack due to shotty oline work.

This year is different. They have made an effort to improve the line the last few years and they went into the season not only saying they were going to run the ball more, they went into the season proving they were going the run the ball more by doing it.

Running the ball more with improved oline play in both the run game AND the passing game is the difference between 8-8 and a winning season.

So..you are entitled to your opinion as well...even if it is wrong. Romo was the MVP for the last few years....he is not the mvp THIS year.

So he's not an MVP when Romo is slinging it around, piling up huge numbers and being the main driver of 8-8 seasons even though he has 4 win talent around him.

And he's not an MVP when they finally put some decent talent around him that leads to double digits wins and a possible division win.

Gotcha.

I guess there are no scenarios in which Romo is MVP material.

And his QB rating is right with the assumed winner, Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers would be the first to tell you his game is helped by the running of Eddy Lacy, by the way.

Rodgers will win the MVP, not Romo. But it's based on a false narrative.

Don't get me wrong, Rodgers is better than Romo. But based on this year, theres not too much difference between the 2, IMO.
 
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I just fail to understand why Rodgers is having an MVP season, but not Romo. Just based on this year alone, not career-wise.
 

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I said 4 week ago that Romo can change national perception with last 3 games of year. From what I saw against Philly he looks to have urgency. Every time I have confidence in Romo he lays eggs...so I will stay neutral.
 
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I said 4 week ago that Romo can change national perception with last 3 games of year. From what I saw against Philly he looks to have urgency. Every time I have confidence in Romo he lays eggs...so I will stay neutral.

Well against Buffalo with the game on the line and a change to drive down the field for the winning score, Aaron Rodgers promptly fumbles into his own end zone for a safety, which ended the game.

But nobody talks about that. It's only about Romo who lays the eggs.

And I'm not trashing Rodgers. If I was starting a team from scratch, the first guy I'd take is Rodgers. I'm just saying that this year, and this year alone, I don't see why one is the slam dunk MVP and the other shouldn't be considered.
 

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Also keep in mind 3 of those INT's came against San Fran right? He wasn't even healthy for that first game.
 

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Romo has not been "healthy" in the four loses we have. In every other game we are winning by an astounding 10.1 points per game.

In today's NFL which is still a 3 point league that's impressive.
 

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Well against Buffalo with the game on the line and a change to drive down the field for the winning score, Aaron Rodgers promptly fumbles into his own end zone for a safety, which ended the game.

But nobody talks about that. It's only about Romo who lays the eggs.

And I'm not trashing Rodgers. If I was starting a team from scratch, the first guy I'd take is Rodgers. I'm just saying that this year, and this year alone, I don't see why one is the slam dunk MVP and the other shouldn't be considered.

Yeah, I'm a Rodgers fan too.

However, with his team trailing late in the 4th quarter and needing to retake the lead, Romo has had far more success than Rodgers in achieving that goal. The nation would be shocked to know this, but it is true.
 
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Yeah, I'm a Rodgers fan too.

However, with his team trailing late in the 4th quarter and needing to retake the lead, Romo has had far more success than Rodgers in achieving that goal. The nation would be shocked to know this, but it is true.

I wish Percy was around with those numbers. He has shown them before.
 

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No knock on Romo he's had a terrific season but Murray has clearly been the Cowboys MVP and has a decent shot at the league MVP if the Cowboys make the playoffs. It's been the running game that's taken a load off Romo's shoulders that's contributed to the season he's had. Coming off back surgery and being limited all summer and suffering another injury to his back in week 8 he wouldn't have been as consistent this season had he had to attempt as many passes as he did in previous seasons. After 13 games this season he's attempted only 381 passes which is a career low after 13 games. Last season where he also missed a game he attempted 535 passes in 15 games.

In 2012 he attempted 648 passes. Many felt his poor performance on Thanksgiving was due to him being tired from a real short week. It's very unlikely he would have been as effective this season without the great year Murray has had. Romo's had 8 int's this season which is only one off his career low after 13 games. His 11 turnovers is a career low after 13 games played. His 110.4 passer rating blows away his career best after 13 games and his efficiency this season can all be attributed to the running game led by Murray.

It's always been Romo's having to carry the offense ever since he became the starting QB in 06 and it's led to some meltdown performances and a lot of turnovers. We've said for years he needs a running which is a QB's best friend. He's had only 2 poor games this season and it was a result of the Cowboys getting way behind and Romo having to press and do too much.
 

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So he's not an MVP when Romo is slinging it around, piling up huge numbers and being the main driver of 8-8 seasons even though he has 4 win talent around him.

And he's not an MVP when they finally put some decent talent around him that leads to double digits wins and a possible division win.

Gotcha.

I guess there are no scenarios in which Romo is MVP material.

And his QB rating is right with the assumed winner, Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers would be the first to tell you his game is helped by the running of Eddy Lacy, by the way.

Rodgers will win the MVP, not Romo. But it's based on a false narrative.

Don't get me wrong, Rodgers is better than Romo. But based on this year, theres not too much difference between the 2, IMO.

Actually NO...You DON'T got me.

You already made your argument in your head and read what you wanted to read because if you read what I said you would in NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM come to the conclusion that I thought he was not MVP material when we were 8-8 and he was the main driver with no running game or good offensive line play...I pretty much said the opposite.

That he was the MVP of the team back at that time, not now.

So...again...you don't get what I am saying and basically making up an argument where you are arguing with imaginary people saying things in your head. :cool:

I will also say...I did not say that Rodgers will or should win the MVP nor would I argue that he should. So that is not an argument I have made...you might have had it with others...not with me.
 
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