Bradie James hit the nail on the head. We don't play rookies

[AbeBeta]

They play rookies.. it's a very simple philosophy.

If Jones took 20 carries - he'd probably fumble a few times. If Jones was left to pass block the entire game - Romo would probably be hurt by the 3rd quarter.

Listen, there's SOME things rookies excel at - there's A LOT more that they're horrible at. It's the nature of college football.. they play in one system their whole college career. In college, they didn't have to protect the QB. In college, they didn't have to carry it 25 times and be hit by 11 college "all-stars" the entire game. In college, they didn't have to identify that player, this player, and where the blitz pickup is. In college, every play wasn't a chess match. In the NFL - EVERY play is a chess match.

I think the way the Cowboys do it is great; put those guys in the game for what they're good for. Don't put a player in a situation where he is more than likely going to fail. Barber wasn't great at blitz pickup his rookie year. Romo wasn't good at reading the blitz pickup his rookie year. With years of coaching - watching film - and practice - they "get it".

When they "get it" - they play full time. Everyone on this team is an athlete - do they have "it" is the question.

Who is talking about Jones? Jones plays when he is healthy. I think folks are looking at this years top draft pick, a guy like Mike Hamlin who looked good in camp, and asking why we aren't seeing them. It isn't like we have some amazing depth at their positions.

Rookies get better by playing. There is no way in hell a guy is going to improve by simply watching film and practicing. You need full speed play against opponent when it counts.

 

[Doomsday101]

Who is talking about Jones? Jones plays when he is healthy. I think folks are looking at this years top draft pick, a guy like Mike Hamlin who looked good in camp, and asking why we aren't seeing them. It isn't like we have some amazing depth at their positions.

Rookies get better by playing. There is no way in hell a guy is going to improve by simply watching film and practicing. You need full speed play against opponent when it counts.

Sure if you are doing enough in practice and showing you can do the job if you can't get it right on the practice field why would you think they would when it is the real deal. I like seeing guys get time but this is not pre-season Dallas can't afford to risk games so some rookie can play.

If the coaches feel comfortable putting them in then they will if they don’t then they will not do it. Just as people hollered about Parcells he was not going to throw guys out there if he did not feel they were ready to do the job.

 

[Galian Beast]

If Roy Williams didnt get hurt, Miles Austin probably never starts...

 

[Doomsday101]

If Roy Williams didnt get hurt, Miles Austin probably never starts...

If Dallas did not believe in Austin they would not have put a 2nd rd tender on him to prevent him from leaving via FA. Yes RW getting hurt gave Miles a big oppertunity and he made the most of that oppertunity in putting up over 200 yards did you really think Miles would put that type of number up? Are coaches leery about putting unproven player on the field yes they are it is their jobs on the line it is easy for a fan to say I want to see this guy play you have nothing to lose the coach if they put a guy out who they don't feel is ready has a lot to lose.

 

[BAT]

It's not an excuse lol. BWill and V got DESTROYED by 2nd and 3rd teamers against the run. I mean blown out, turned completely around destroyed. They made Carpenter look like Dat.
Sometimes it takes time and there's no rush so....?



Sorry not JWill, BWill. :

Not that I agree w/the Wade hater, but when has Jason Williams played any defensive snaps this season?

 

[JBond]

Who is talking about Jones? Jones plays when he is healthy. I think folks are looking at this years top draft pick, a guy like Mike Hamlin who looked good in camp, and asking why we aren't seeing them. It isn't like we have some amazing depth at their positions.

Rookies get better by playing. There is no way in hell a guy is going to improve by simply watching film and practicing. You need full speed play against opponent when it counts.

So coach, how much playing time has Hamlin earned? How many snaps should he get? Please explain in detail what he has done to earn that playing time.

Coach, do you always believe in giving playing time based on draft position? If so why are Romo and Austin starting?

 

[The Realist]

Who is talking about Jones? Jones plays when he is healthy. I think folks are looking at this years top draft pick, a guy like Mike Hamlin who looked good in camp, and asking why we aren't seeing them. It isn't like we have some amazing depth at their positions.

Rookies get better by playing. There is no way in hell a guy is going to improve by simply watching film and practicing. You need full speed play against opponent when it counts.

Mike Hamlin was not a top pick and he has been injured.

Romo played lights out when he came in for Bledsoe w/o ever facing live bullets "when it counts".

Austin, Choice, KO have looked great being thrust into action.

Go back to 90's and a lot of guys didn't start or even see the field right away....Woodson, Flo, LA....

 

[TD-33]

Not that I agree w/the Wade hater, but when has Jason Williams played any defensive snaps this season?

He has been injured

 

[Alexander]

It is hard to argue with what this team is doing.

Actually, just because we find ourselves in a nice position at this stage in the season doesn't mean what we are doing is completely flawless and the results are proven.

In a league where you have to evaluate players quickly to see if you want to keep them or let them go FA, you need to be willing to play rookies. Plain and simple.

This.

Bradie was actually implying that it's tough for rookies to earn playing time because the veterans on the team are so good.

My point to that philosophy is if they are so good, why haven't we been winning playoff games the last three years?

To me, the explanation is a complete copout from an organization and staff that either is incapable of fostering competition or simply is afraid of mistakes to the point they restrict opportunities. You can look around the league and find dozens of examples where young players are contributing in their first year.

The Colts, an undefeated team with a rookie head coach no less, have had eight rookies or second year players either start or log significant time.

When you draft lower tier players (and we loaded up on them) and that is the draft philosophy, even those who were talented are mired down until coaching or management deems they are "ready" to break into this ultra-talented team that apparently we are just set at across the board. If you draft for backups, and those players never see time, how are you to evaluate? Practices and camp?

In other words, competition isn't as important to this organization as players occupying niches and "roles". We even drafted that way in April.

That's one reason we have players like Doug Free who are now in their third year and we know nothing about them. That's another reason why we might have players like Martellus Bennett play out their rookie deals and leave before they had a chance to prove their value.

 

[AbeBeta]

Mike Hamlin was not a top pick and he has been injured.

Romo played lights out when he came in for Bledsoe w/o ever facing live bullets "when it counts".

Austin, Choice, KO have looked great being thrust into action.

Go back to 90's and a lot of guys didn't start or even see the field right away....Woodson, Flo, LA....

This year's top pick = Jason Williams. He is who I was talking about along with Hamlin - he's the other guy standing on the sidelines in street clothes.

Your Romo comparison is silly as we all know you pretty much can only play 1 QB in a game. That isn't a rotation position.

Woodson, Flo, and LA didn't see action right away? Again, OL isn't a rotation position, so it is a silly statement. Woodson was active in every game in his rookie season. So it is clear that he DID see action right away.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Actually, just because we find ourselves in a nice position at this stage in the season doesn't mean what we are doing is completely flawless and the results are proven.

it doesn't matter if we're doing great or bad

the same theme is that the coaches know more than we do, so they are always right...in every way

I heard the same crap last year, and we weren't exactly a beacon of a tight, well oiled machine

 

[AbeBeta]

So coach, how much playing time has Hamlin earned? How many snaps should he get? Please explain in detail what he has done to earn that playing time.

Coach, do you always believe in giving playing time based on draft position? If so why are Romo and Austin starting?

Where did I say someone should play based on draft position? I simply noted that our top pick isn't seeing the field. Nice display of reading comprehension. You wanna try vocab next?

I said we need to work these guys into the lineup - particularly Hamlin since before his injury it looked as if he was going to be a solid contributor. Similarly with Williams there were numerous reports that the "light had gone on" for him prior to his injury. Clearly CJ, Octavein, or even Jr. Savaii might do with a little sittin'

 

[JBond]

Where did I say someone should play based on draft position? I simply noted that our top pick isn't seeing the field. Nice display of reading comprehension. You wanna try vocab next?

I said we need to work these guys into the lineup - particularly Hamlin since before his injury it looked as if he was going to be a solid contributor. Similarly with Williams there were numerous reports that the "light had gone on" for him prior to his injury. Clearly CJ, Octavein, or even Jr. Savaii might do with a little sittin'

So how much time should he get coach? You want to play a guy based on draft position. You have mentioned it twice now. Maybe the real coaches know what they are doing. Pretty sure the vets do not share your opinion.

Why is so hard for some people to understand we have excellent players starting. Those who want to risk loses on unproven rookies are out of touch.

 

[Doomsday101]

it doesn't matter if we're doing great or bad

the same theme is that the coaches know more than we do, so they are always right...in every way

I heard the same crap last year, and we weren't exactly a beacon of a tight, well oiled machine

No one said they are always right they just have more infomation about the player. You see him sunday they see all of them through out the week and on sunday. Who would you think is in a better position of knowing the positives and negitives of any given player? You see Butler in on a passing situation what does he look like when he has gaurds pulling? how does he look when he has to drop back into coverages? He made a big play in a situation where Philly was forced to throw the ball and hopefully he will see more time but coming in the game in situations and taking on a bigger role is not the same.

 

[Doomsday101]

Where did I say someone should play based on draft position? I simply noted that our top pick isn't seeing the field. Nice display of reading comprehension. You wanna try vocab next?

I said we need to work these guys into the lineup - particularly Hamlin since before his injury it looked as if he was going to be a solid contributor. Similarly with Williams there were numerous reports that the "light had gone on" for him prior to his injury. Clearly CJ, Octavein, or even Jr. Savaii might do with a little sittin'

I simply noted that our top pick isn't seeing the field
Sure he is his name is Spencer a 1st rd selection.

 

[AbeBeta]

So how much time should he get coach? You want to play a guy based on draft position. You have mentioned it twice now. Maybe the real coaches know what they are doing. Pretty sure the vets do not share your opinion.

Why is so hard for some people to understand we have excellent players starting. Those who want to risk loses on unproven rookies are out of touch.

Since you can't read, let me repeat

Where did I say someone should play based on draft position? I simply noted that our top pick isn't seeing the field.

I also noted that Mike Hamlin wasn't playing. It was a freaking list of who wasn't playing that you decided to read something more into.

Next up.... When did I say these guys should start? Ummm, never.

So basically your argument here is that guys shouldn't start automatically b/c of their draft position. Are you actually arguing with me? B/c I never argued either of those points.

 

[AbeBeta]

I simply noted that our top pick isn't seeing the field
Sure he is his name is Spencer a 1st rd selection.

Huh? Spencer was our top pick in the 2009 draft?

 

[Doomsday101]

Huh? Spencer was our top pick in the 2009 draft?

Spencer started off by seeing some action and the more he knew the better prepaird he was the more time he got now he is the starting OLB. Point is you earn the playing time and part of earning it is knowing the job and how to do the job not just rush a passer but everything that goes with it.

 

[AbeBeta]

Spencer started off by seeing some action and the more he knew the better prepaird he was the more time he got now he is the starting OLB. Point is you earn the playing time and part of earning it is knowing the job and how to do the job not just rush a passer but everything that goes with it.

But he actually SAW action - the guys I'm talking about appear to have lost a chance at PT because of injury.

 

[Doomsday101]

But he actually SAW action - the guys I'm talking about appear to have lost a chance at PT because of injury.

If a player is showing enough to the coaches they will get opportunities just as Ogletree is seeing opportunities because he did wow them during the practice and they feel the packages he is in on are things they feel he can handle. Wade is not the only coach who does this most coaches are not going to throw players in unless they feel confident that player will do the job they are asking.