Brady Suspension is On!

[Yakuza Rich]

A multi-billion dollar business and the pack of lawyers it hires I'm sure can seem to be bullish at times, but in this case I'm of the opinion Brady needs to take his medicine and let this thing die.

Has nothing to do with being bullies...when your LEGAL claims is that they are bullies...that's just silly.




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[Yakuza Rich]

I love how they say Goodell shouldn't be the arbitrator when that is the most important part of his job

It is like saying Brady shouldn't throw the ball

I don't think he should be the sole arbitrator. But, it doesn't matter what I think or what Brady thinks or DeMaurice Smith thinks.

It's in the CBA that he is the person that decides the punishment. And that they have limits on the punishment.

He has decided that Brady should be punished for breaking the rules and gave him a 4-game suspension which is within the CBA guidelines for a 1st time offender.






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[dogunwo]

Fans should want the NFL to win this one, not because of whether or not Brady is guilty (he is), but more to teach the NFLPA about collective bargaining. They gave this power to Goodell. Negotiate it out next time.

 

[Nightman]

Fans should want the NFL to win this one, not because of whether or not Brady is guilty (he is), but more to teach the NFLPA about collective bargaining. They gave this power to Goodell. Negotiate it out next time.

Exactly, respect the CBA. The fans should want these issues to be settled and not having every player run to Federal Court when something doesn't go their way.

 

[JoeKing]

Has nothing to do with being bullies...when your LEGAL claims is that they are bullies...that's just silly.




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In this case the CBA does not favor union. I think he was making a general statement about the NFL being bullies, not a legal claim.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Brady will play this whole season.

 

[JoeKing]

At this point, this is about the relationship between the league and the union, not so much the facts in the deflate-gate case. Either the commish had the right to hand down punishment in accordance with the CBA or he did not. That relationship seems to be deteriorating... evident when the league tries to manipulate information from other investigations involving these two parties... i.e. the CTE investigation.

We should get a decision before the season starts. I believe the commish was clearly within his CBA given authority to hand down the 4 game suspension.

 

[DandyDon52]

The problem I have with this whole thing, is the NFL should have investigated
all the nfl teams and see what all the teams were doing with the balls, and checked
the patriots longer to see and gather evidence on just what they were doing with
the balls.
As it was they checked one game, and did not check any of the other teams,
and so it was not fair to just look at the patriots, and just one game.

Then they levy a harsh penalty after a really sloppy and short investigation, that
only checked the patriots.

Had they done it right, there might have been other teams doing similar things,
and they could have got more and better evidence of the patriots, so there would
be no doubt, and then penalize them and maybe other teams as well.

As it is the patriots were fined, and did lose a 1st round pick, and I think that was
enough considering how the investigation was so one sided and poorly done.

I think it has become personal against brady, and I dont see where he should be
singled out in first place, he is not in charge of the team, even if he was a instigator
of deflating the balls.

 

[Nightman]

Brady will play this whole season.

It is an 8 in 27000 chance his appeal is even heard

 

[big dog cowboy]

I think it has become personal against brady, and I dont see where he should be singled out in first place

It isn't becoming personal against Brady. He isn't being singled out. All this would have went away if Brady had cooperated. This is all on Brady for the actions he took. The league asked for his phone and he destroyed it.

 

[jimmy40]

should have been a $25,000.00 fine, end of story.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He should have taken his medicine like everybody else.

 

[jimmy40]

He should have taken his medicine like everybody else.

which would have been a $25,000.00 fine if it was anyone else.. Good Lord, less time was spent investigating Watergate.

 

[speedkilz88]

The problem I have with this whole thing, is the NFL should have investigated
all the nfl teams and see what all the teams were doing with the balls, and checked
the patriots longer to see and gather evidence on just what they were doing with
the balls.
As it was they checked one game, and did not check any of the other teams,
and so it was not fair to just look at the patriots, and just one game.

Then they levy a harsh penalty after a really sloppy and short investigation, that
only checked the patriots.

Had they done it right, there might have been other teams doing similar things,
and they could have got more and better evidence of the patriots, so there would
be no doubt, and then penalize them and maybe other teams as well.

As it is the patriots were fined, and did lose a 1st round pick, and I think that was
enough considering how the investigation was so one sided and poorly done.

I think it has become personal against brady, and I dont see where he should be
singled out in first place, he is not in charge of the team, even if he was a instigator
of deflating the balls.

You have a misunderstanding of what happened. The refs always check the balls before a game. The Patriots have been accused of doing this for years by other teams including earlier in the season that they were caught. The league basically looked the other way for some time but finally put out a warning that is was against the rules. Brady still had did it done and the refs finally re-checked the balls after the game because they caught on that one of the staff took the balls without permission after the pre-game check and disappeared into a bathroom before he returned them to the field.

 

[dogunwo]

It isn't becoming personal against Brady. He isn't being singled out. All this would have went away if Brady had cooperated. This is all on Brady for the actions he took. The league asked for his phone and he destroyed it.

I dont even mind as much Brady refusing to give up his phone. The NFL proved that they cannot control the private information leaks. But in his refusal, he should have been ready to accept whatever punishment was doled out. I think Brady's "legacy" would have been better protected, if he just came out publicly and said he wasn't comfortable giving up his phone because of all the personal information in his life, especially private things, like pictures between he and his wife.

Brady appears to be guilty as sin, and looks like he is going to get punished anyway as he should, but he could have stopped the NFL from bullying him and trying to set some ridiculous precedent about giving up your personal phone. The whole "destroyed his phone" thing just makes it look worse.

 

[cowboyblue22]

i agree I don't think he misses a games this season

 

[Nightman]

should have been a $25,000.00 fine, end of story.

He intentionally cheated the rules in the AFCCG and got caught red-handed...... 4 games is getting off lightly.....he just has the money to keep dragging it out

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Fans should want the NFL to win this one, not because of whether or not Brady is guilty (he is), but more to teach the NFLPA about collective bargaining. They gave this power to Goodell. Negotiate it out next time.

people say this as though they didn't try. If I recall correctly, owners said this was a deal breaker on their end.

 

[dogberry]

Steve McIntyre has submitted an article to the Journal of Sports Analytics about "a previously unnoticed scientific error in the technical analysis included in the Wells Report on Deflategate."

The article and comments is at his website: Climate Audit.

 

[Nightman]

Steve McIntyre has submitted an article to the Journal of Sports Analytics about "a previously unnoticed scientific error in the technical analysis included in the Wells Report on Deflategate."

The article and comments is at his website: Climate Audit.

How come the Pats didn't record and track the effects of the IGL on footballs this season

It seems like a perfect way to make their case, unless it all based on BS

All these papers but no one shows real life data that backs up the NE balls being the only balls that were drastically deflated, well outside the projections of the IGL