Brandon Moore news?

[FLCowboyFan]

Anyone heard if we are interested in signing Moore? I'd really like to see us add to the OL through free agency!

 

[speedkilz88]

Please sir I want some Moore.​

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

I am thinking we'll hear who the Cowboys are eyeing & bringing in for visits come Monday.

 

[FLCowboyFan]

That would be great to hear

 

[gimmesix]

I am thinking we'll hear who the Cowboys are eyeing & bringing in for visits come Monday.

They're going to bring in Moore, Andre Smith, Israel Idonije, Richard Seymour, Laurent Robinson and Steven Jackson, even though he already signed with Atlanta.

 

[Titleist]

I really hope we don't sign Moore because if we do then JJ will use that as an excuse to not upgrade the OL during the draft. Haven't we learned from Bernie and Livings that bringing in average vets doesn't work?

 

[Wood]

I really hope we don't sign Moore because if we do then JJ will use that as an excuse to not upgrade the OL during the draft. Haven't we learned from Bernie and Livings that bringing in average vets doesn't work?

I like Moore alot more than I liked Bernie & Livings. Dallas looks like they need atleast two new starters on OL and maybe three. If they get one starter in draft...that is good. Rest need to come from FA.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

I really hope we don't sign Moore because if we do then JJ will use that as an excuse to not upgrade the OL during the draft. Haven't we learned from Bernie and Livings that bringing in average vets doesn't work?

Moore is an above average vet, so he doesn't fit your Bernie/Livings bill, yes he will be 33 headed into the season, but a 2 year deal might be enough to sign him

 

[Idgit]

I really hope we don't sign Moore because if we do then JJ will use that as an excuse to not upgrade the OL during the draft. Haven't we learned from Bernie and Livings that bringing in average vets doesn't work?

I know it goes against prevailing chat room wisdom, but--other than early in the year and after Mack's surgery--the problems last season with the OL weren't really related to the OGs, anyway.

Moore'd be an upgrade. And he's got history with Callahan. He makes too much sense not to bring in, especially if Livings' contract restructure was never filed. We're still going to need to either restructure Free dramatically, or find a swing OT--at the very least--in the draft. The chances are very good we'll pick up an OL relatively early this year, no matter what.

 

[JonJon]

They're going to bring in Moore, Andre Smith, Israel Idonije, Richard Seymour, Laurent Robinson and Steven Jackson, even though he already signed with Atlanta.

:laugh1:

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I know it goes against prevailing chat room wisdom, but--other than early in the year and after Mack's surgery--the problems last season with the OL weren't really related to the OGs, anyway.

Moore'd be an upgrade. And he's got history with Callahan. He makes too much sense not to bring in, especially if Livings' contract restructure was never filed. We're still going to need to either restructure Free dramatically, or find a swing OT--at the very least--in the draft. The chances are very good we'll pick up an OL relatively early this year, no matter what.

Agreed, Cook was awful and RT ranged from pretty bad to downright awful. Smith at best was average due to inconsistency.

 

[Idgit]

Agreed, Cook was awful and RT ranged from pretty bad to downright awful. Smith at best was average due to inconsistency.

It'd be easier to fix if the problem was just upgrading OG. Costa's still a question mark at OC for both injury and the quality of his play, and a swing OT--even one to develop for a year or so--is not going to be all that easy to find if we don't take one in the first. And I think it'd be a mistake to take the 4th best tackle at 18 in the first round.

On the roster, we've got Cook who can play outside at RT in a pinch, and then either a hole or a restructured Doug Free out there (assuming he doesn't win the job outright) backing up a questionable starter.

Whereas, at OG, you can get a quality starter familiar with the system as a street FA and have a really good shot at one of the top two OGs in the class in the first. You can still find a possible upgrade at the position in the second. Do that, and you can move Bernadeau to OC permanently and have Leary and, if you don't cut him, Livings still available to hold down one of those two slots for you.

Granted, we'd be doing it with an injury replacement, and by elevating a RT already on the roster, but we can readily replace 4 of 5 starters on the OL this offseason while only adding one rookie unfamiliar with the other players and the system. Adding veteran depth at OC and RG in the process. Not too shabby with limited cap space available.

 

[gimmesix]

I really hope we don't sign Moore because if we do then JJ will use that as an excuse to not upgrade the OL during the draft. Haven't we learned from Bernie and Livings that bringing in average vets doesn't work?

For what it's worth, I read that Moore was rated the fifth-best guard in the league by PFF last year. There's no guarantee a first-rounder will even rate as a guard.

 

[rojan]

Anyone know the PFF ratings for Moore, Berny, and Livings?

 

[Idgit]

For what it's worth, I read that Moore was rated the fifth-best guard in the league by PFF last year. There's no guarantee a first-rounder will even rate as a guard.

Anyone know the PFF ratings for Moore, Berny, and Livings?

Don't know about the other two, but I heard somewhere that Moore was rated 5th.

 

[Wolf2k5]

Please sir I want some Moore.​

You sir have won at interneting

 

[rojan]

Anyone know the PFF ratings for Moore, Berny, and Livings?

Just to update my findings, PFF had him ranked as the top G/C free agent. Here is what they had to say:

1. Brandon Moore

2012 Grade: +21.3
2012 Snaps: 1,087

Summary: Don’t let one of the league’s most infamous fumbles, which happened to involve Moore’s buttocks, distort your view. He was one of the best interior linemen in the league and part of a New York Jets offensive line that surprisingly ranked near the top of the league. His +21.3 grade ranked fourth among guards, and, as Moore mentioned to our own Sam Monson, his goal was to finish the season on a strong note — which he did with nine straight positive grades to top off 2012.

Success is nothing new for Moore who has now posted a positive grade every year since PFF’s inception in 2008. His +12.8 run blocking grade will be attractive to any team looking to move the ball on the ground, though he’s also more than capable in pass protection. He graded at +5.6 as a pass blocker with a Pass Blocking Efficiency (PBE) of 97.2 that ranked 18th among all guards. Moore’s all-around game has him as our top interior lineman heading into free agency.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/bl...013-free-agents-offensive-guards-and-centers/

 

[NJ22]

A guy that has been to pro bowls is not the same as 2 guys that have been absolute garbage their whole careers. But I do agree, that should not exclude us from drafting a lineman or 2 in the first 5 rounds.

I really hope we don't sign Moore because if we do then JJ will use that as an excuse to not upgrade the OL during the draft. Haven't we learned from Bernie and Livings that bringing in average vets doesn't work?

 

[Hoofbite]

A guy that has been to pro bowls is not the same as 2 guys that have been absolute garbage their whole careers. But I do agree, that should not exclude us from drafting a lineman or 2 in the first 5 rounds.

Agree.

Moore would be a very good short term solution but that's it. Dallas still needs to invest in the OL no matter what through the draft.

 

[dantheman41]

Agreed, Cook was awful and RT ranged from pretty bad to downright awful. Smith at best was average due to inconsistency.

Huh? Cook was awful? I watched almost every game on the coaches film and I didn't get that sense at all. He RARELY gave up even a pressure. Was excellent in pass protection. Not great in getting good push in run game though