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[TheMarathonContinues]

Both Lawrence and Herbert are very strong quarterbacks and winners.

Andy Reid is the determining factor in Kansas City.

Maybe. I think Mahomes could win with a lot of guys. Not sure he could've won with Jason Garrett though.

 

[Creeper]

You’re not going to make a very good case for moving on from a QB who’s leading you to the playoffs. No team moves on from a QB that’s leading them to the playoffs. They move on from QBs that aren’t leading them to the playoffs. Making it seem like Dak is on par with Trent Dilfer is laughable! Hopefully you didn’t waste this much time on your previous posts, trying to make a case for moving on from him.

The Rams moved on from Goff after he took them to a Super Bowl. Not opining on the move either way but one team moved on from their QB, then won a Super Bowl 3 years later.

 

[KJJ]

The Rams moved on from Goff after he took them to a Super Bowl. Not opining on the move either way but one team moved on from their QB, then won a Super Bowl 3 years later.

They moved on because he began to decline. He was terrible in the Super Bowl, and after they paid him his numbers began to decline. I’ve already gone through it. They gave up two first round picks to get rid of him and get Stafford.

 

[CCBoy]

Maybe. I think Mahomes could win with a lot of guys. Not sure he could've won with Jason Garrett though.

According to Bill Parcells, three factors are crucial for building a winning football team: acquiring talented players, molding them into great shape, and choosing the best 53 to utilize their strengths.

If any of three things failed, Bill Parcells was convinced that trouble was on the horizon. Soon, the answers will reveal themselves.

https://thelandryhat.com/posts/dallas-cowboys-mailbag-training-camp-pollard-waletzko

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The Rams moved on from Goff after he took them to a Super Bowl. Not opining on the move either way but one team moved on from their QB, then won a Super Bowl 3 years later.

Yeah but that same quarterback led the league in interceptions and won a SB. Think that Aaron Donald guy was a big reason they won to. As well as Odell and Kupp.

 

[DandyDon52]

Hard to take this post serious when you don't even know how long Dak has been in the league.....

You lose all credibility when you intentionally misconstrue the amount of years a player has been on your team.

This is going to be Dak's 8th season (7th playing due to injuries), not 9th.

that is trivial, ever consider it was a typo? 8 or 9, about the same, it has been a long time, close to a decade.
What the op said makes sense, whether you agree with it or not.

 

[DandyDon52]

In Jerry Jones' 34-year opinion, the starting quarterback should be retained if-and-until he acquires a successor via the draft or free agency that he supports 100%. Of course, the starting quarterback can choose to retire (Troy Aikman) or <expletive> up (Quincy Carter), creating an opportunity for another quarterback to possibly upset Jones' 100% support standard.

Jerry is still using the triplet formula, for getting to a SB.
dak is his Aikman
elliot was his emmitt, he was forced to go with pollard, and wont even sign him lol
Lamb is his Irvin
parsons is his Haley

In jerrys mind that makes a SB team.
He lucked out with quinn, the defense, and parsons.

But his current triplet's are not as good as the 90's version.

and yeah jerry imo is terrified to look for another qb, because the jones boys suck at that, so if he gets one he likes he keeps him as long as possible.
I think if dak had been a bust , he would still be rolling romo out there.

 

[GINeric]

Some perspective here. Our QB hasn't even made the NFCCG after how many years in the league as a starter, let alone the Super Bowl. And it wasn't Hurts (second full year as a starter) who choked away a 10-point lead at the half.

Dak played 6 healthy years.

In that same time frame, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Matthew Stafford, and a host of other good to great quarterbacks didn't make it to the championship game.... in the same amount of playing time.

So what should I take from their inability to do the same?? Let the spin job begin!!

(Insert excuses for those quarterbacks here)

 

[America's Cowboy]

that is trivial, ever consider it was a typo? 8 or 9, about the same, it has been a long time, close to a decade.
What the op said makes sense, whether you agree with it or not.

No, only for Dak haters is 7 years a long time. Not even close to a decade. Y'all never complained about Romo starting 10 straight years. Y'all even wanted him to continue, so we don't want to hear it about Dak.

 

[plasticman]

I would suggest that, before moving on, they find a reasonable alternative.

Or should we go back to the era of Drew Henson, Chad Hutchinson, and Clint Stoerner?

We can't limit comparisons only to Hall of Fame Cowboys quarterbacks. They have had their share of bottom dwellers.

 

[GINeric]

Drew Brees and Tom Brady do not get to be mentioned with reference to Dak Prescott. Completely different talent levels and style of play.

Drew Brees was a very good quarterback, but that doesn't put him on some unreachable tier. How long did it take him to win a Superbowl again??

If he was THAT great, he would have won before he did correct? Now Brees shouldn't be mentioned with reference to Brady.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

that is trivial, ever consider it was a typo? 8 or 9, about the same, it has been a long time, close to a decade.
What the op said makes sense, whether you agree with it or not.

It wasn't a typo.

It doesn't make sense it makes sense to you because you agree with it.

If you want agree that in order for us to win we need to limit teams to 6 points or less then have at it. Its silly and just another bash Dak thread we have plenty of.

At some point I hope we can get a more original approach but that would take too much work I guess.

 

[Whirlwin]

You're not going to make a very good case for staying with a QB and paying him $50M+ a year who most don't think will win you a super bowl either.

Most don’t even understand the game. They just watch it. Usually while gabbing and drinking.

 

[GINeric]

No, only for Dak haters is 7 years a long time. Not even close to a decade. Y'all never complained about Romo starting 10 straight years. Y'all even wanted him to continue, so we don't want to hear it about Dak.

I love making those haters spin. They say Dak hasn't done this or that in 6 healthy years of playing.

I mention another group of quarterbacks that didn't do the same this or that in the same amount of playing years and those quarterbacks are better than Dak.


All of a sudden they go into SPINNNNN MODE!!! They open up the "closet of excuses" and bring out tons of excuses as to why these other good to great quarterbacks didn't do this or that in the SAME EXACT time frame as Dak played.

 

[Blitzen]

Drew Brees was a very good quarterback, but that doesn't put him on some unreachable tier. How long did it take him to win a Superbowl again??

If he was THAT great, he would have won before he did correct? Now Brees shouldn't be mentioned with reference to Brady.

They each got to the conference championship game by their 6th season (5 years as a starter for Brees).

My stance has to do with roster construction. Both of those starters fulfill the minimum requirement I set forth for extending a QB in the current landscape. They play very different styles and have vastly differing levels of talent. Dak should not be mentioned with them when doing comparisons. Brees and Manning are hall of fame QB’s based on their level of play and accolades. Compare Dak with guys like Cousins who has similar regular season stats-if Dak can start producing in the divisional round and push the team to a conference title game and then a SB, I would be okay changing my stance.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I love making those haters spin. They say Dak hasn't done this or that in 6 healthy years of playing.

I mention another group of quarterbacks that didn't do the same this or that in the same amount of playing years and those quarterbacks are better than Dak.


All of a sudden they go into SPINNNNN MODE!!! They open up the "closet of excuses" and bring out tons of excuses as to why these other good to great quarterbacks didn't do this or that in the SAME EXACT time frame as Dak played.

Hypocrisy never looks good.

 

[Blitzen]

It wasn't a typo.

It doesn't make sense it makes sense to you because you agree with it.

If you want agree that in order for us to win we need to limit teams to 6 points or less then have at it. Its silly and just another bash Dak thread we have plenty of.

At some point I hope we can get a more original approach but that would take too much work I guess.

The 6 point thing burns a bunch of you guys-I get that you guys wuv Dak. He means nothing to me other than he plays QB for the team I cheer for. And the 6 points was in regards to facing the top defenses in the playoffs. In 2022, the team had 7 points before a fourth quarter turnover led them to their second TD. This season, they scored 9 points prior to the 4th quarter. That’s where my 6 points comes from.

My original post just has to do with roster construction. The rest of the Dak defense posts are about telling everyone how you stand pat, if the current squad can make the playoffs. I disagree and point to all time history in the league to establish my point.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Jerry is still using the triplet formula, for getting to a SB.
dak is his Aikman
elliot was his emmitt, he was forced to go with pollard, and wont even sign him lol
Lamb is his Irvin
parsons is his Haley

In jerrys mind that makes a SB team.
He lucked out with quinn, the defense, and parsons.

But his current triplet's are not as good as the 90's version.

and yeah jerry imo is terrified to look for another qb, because the jones boys suck at that, so if he gets one he likes he keeps him as long as possible.
I think if dak had been a bust , he would still be rolling romo out there.

Jerry is an egomaniac wannabee GM(Just because he played college ball) who reduced our team to the level of the Lions, Browns, etc.
We are bigger fools thinking that this clown show will ever win another SB with Jones as GM.
Home-town tickets holder know it better than most that's why our home games are like away games.
Why not sell the tickets and make a profit as the only reason to go to a Cowboys game is to watch our team sputter against a real defense or to boo the offense who can't score points till the 4th Q.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Most don’t even understand the game. They just watch it. Usually while gabbing and drinking.

We will come to you for guidance and advice.....

 

[GINeric]

They each got to the conference championship game by their 6th season (5 years as a starter for Brees).

My stance has to do with roster construction. Both of those starters fulfill the minimum requirement I set forth for extending a QB in the current landscape. They play very different styles and have vastly differing levels of talent. Dak should not be mentioned with them when doing comparisons. Brees and Manning are hall of fame QB’s based on their level of play and accolades. Compare Dak with guys like Cousins who has similar regular season stats-if Dak can start producing in the divisional round and push the team to a conference title game and then a SB, I would be okay changing my stance.

Well I certainly stand to be corrected. With that said, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees were great quarterbacks, no question. I was thinking, who had better offensive coordinators in their first few seasons Manning and Brees, or Dak.

Dak hast to improve tremendously to fully win me over, but the dude can play.

Just imagine if Dak had a real NFL quality offensive coordinator the last couple years he was maturing into the position. It probably would have helped the whole team if we weren't in the top 3 of penalties the last couple of years as well.0