Bring back Watkins...

[Mr Cowboy]

We sign an alcoholic, over the hill, friend of Bill, who was cut mid-season from the lowly Texans, hasn't played a down of football in over a year and we are surprised he plays poorly?!

Cut the bum and play a combination of Davis and Watkins.

I could go for a combo of Watkins and Davis...............

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Coleman was an awful player last year who was fired by the Texans. We got him off the scrap heap for minimum wage. How could we have expected him to be any good for us?

And Davis' hitting and aggressiveness is great, but that horrendous angle he took on Portis' TD run was as bad as anything Watkins has done on a pass. I still can't figure out what the hell he thought he was seeing on that play.

Bottom line, we've gone one more year of ignoring a postion we knew we had big problems at. I just don't understand it.

You're damn right it was.

And the other doofus safety blew the Cooley TD.

Watkins at least was taking decent angles and caused a couple turnovers.

 

[dbair1967]

Coleman was an awful player last year who was fired by the Texans. We got him off the scrap heap for minimum wage. How could we have expected him to be any good for us?

And Davis' hitting and aggressiveness is great, but that horrendous angle he took on Portis' TD run was as bad as anything Watkins has done on a pass. I still can't figure out what the hell he thought he was seeing on that play.

Bottom line, we've gone one more year of ignoring a postion we knew we had big problems at. I just don't understand it.

I suspect some of it will be fixed with the players already here, once BP and Zimnutz are gone

David

 

[superpunk]

You're damn right it was.

And the other doofus safety blew the Cooley TD.

Watkins at least was taking decent angles and caused a couple turnovers.

They've all played like ***. There's no sugar coating it.

 

[Screw The Hall]

I like starting Davis right now but having Watkins back him up. If Coleman struggles at S during the game then you have a wasted active spot on your roster. If Watkins does he's still a potentially dynamic player on ST's so you get some usuage out of him anyway.

In his starts PW seemed like he had stagefright in his first go round on the big stage. But there has to be some happy medium between starting the youngster before he's ready and letting him rot on the bench w/o seeing the field at all. Having him back up Davis is just that.

 

[Future]

We got burned by 2 deep passes. One on the Randle El pass on another that was called back because of that hold they called on the TE. Not including the TD pass to Cooley which BP said was not Henry's responsibility.

My question would be this. The middle of the field was open all day for Brunnell. I don't remember that being a problem all year. Would Watkins have done better in that area? I don't know but just a question because we got eaten alive deep (20-30 yrds) middle.

those are my thoughts....

 

[Eddie]

Romo sat and learned for 4 years. Watkins can sit and learn the NFL game before STARTING again.

I agree. Let Watkins sit and learn alittle. He already cost us 2 games. He'll be a good FS next year. This year, he simply needs to relax, and learn the game.

 

[Seven]

I say keep the kid playing. Take our lumps now and have a better player for it next year. He is not any worse than Davis and Coleman combined. Play him. We can't have the cake and eat it too. Now's the time.

 

[Stautner]

Did you see the Portis run, or the Cooley TD. Whose fault was that. How about the ong pass by ARE?

Davis and Coleman can't takle anyone or take bad angles. They haven't been beaten deep like Watkins was because they haven't thrown deep on them. But the middle was wide open all day long on Sunday. Plus, Watknis is a much better specail teams player than Coleman.

You're going to blame a safety for not stopping the run? Maybe Davis didn't take the best angle or play it as well as he could have, but his first responsibility was pass coverage - he had to recover from that and then try to recover and do his best in the open field against a very good RB.

The run is primarily the responsibility of the D-line and LB's, not the FS - to blame Davis for that run shows a lack of understanding about defenses.

 

[Jon88]

Kudos to the coaching staff for relying on a drunk, a target, and a raw beanpole to fill our most glaring need on defense. Great planning.

That's funny. And it's also true.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You're going to blame a safety for not stopping the run? Maybe Davis didn't take the best angle or play it as well as he could have, but his first responsibility was pass coverage - he had to recover from that and then try to recover and do his best in the open field against a very good RB.

The run is primarily the responsibility of the D-line and LB's, not the FS - to blame Davis for that run shows a lack of understanding about defenses.

What? It was a simple sweep. You think the safety has no responsibility to make a tackle in that situation?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You're going to blame a safety for not stopping the run? Maybe Davis didn't take the best angle or play it as well as he could have, but his first responsibility was pass coverage - he had to recover from that and then try to recover and do his best in the open field against a very good RB.

The run is primarily the responsibility of the D-line and LB's, not the FS - to blame Davis for that run shows a lack of understanding about defenses.

I agree that Davis' first responsibility is pass coverage but that attempt on Portis was just horrid... absolutely horrid. Not only did he take the wrong angle but he wiped out another Cowboy on the play. And he does bare a measure of responsibility on that play. Sometimes Davis runs around out there like he doesn't have a clue.

 

[Seven]

You're going to blame a safety for not stopping the run? Maybe Davis didn't take the best angle or play it as well as he could have, but his first responsibility was pass coverage - he had to recover from that and then try to recover and do his best in the open field against a very good RB.

The run is primarily the responsibility of the D-line and LB's, not the FS - to blame Davis for that run shows a lack of understanding about defenses.

Stay focused. He said Davis takes bad angles. Recovery or not, a bad angle is a bad angle. And yes, one could blame the safety for not stopping the run, especially when it breaks past the secondary. Hence, the bad angle reference.

 

[Stautner]

What? It was a simple sweep. You think the safety has no responsibility to make a tackle in that situation?

This is the kind of posting that just grates on people.

WHERE DID I SAY THE SAFETY HAD NO RESPONSIBILITY?

I merely said it was wrong to blame him - stopping that play is a secondary responsibility for him, but a primary responsiblity for the LB's and D-line.

Comparing Davis' responsibility on that run to Watkins getting burned deep multiple times - which is his primary responsibility to prevent - is an incredibly bogus attempt at logic.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Stay focused. He said Davis takes bad angles. Recovery or not, a bad angle is a bad angle. And yes, one could blame the safety for not stopping the run, especially when it breaks past the secondary. Hence, the bad angle reference.

+7 for using the term "Hence".

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Roy Williams, Keith Davis and Marcus Coleman cost us the game Sunday, so what's the difference and they are NOT rookies, like I said with the Drew Bledsoe situation I'll stomach a rookie making the mistakes but not a veteran!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

This is the kind of posting that just grates on people.

WHERE DID I SAY THE SAFETY HAD NO RESPONSIBILITY?

I merely said it was wrong to blame him - stopping that play is a secondary responsibility for him, but a primary responsiblity for the LB's and D-line.

Comparing Davis' responsibility on that run to Watkins getting burned deep multiple times - which is his primary responsibility to prevent - is an incredibly bogus attempt at logic.

I just know our FS's gave up one passing TD this pass weekend and contributed mightly to the Portis run... not too mention (as someone else pointed out) the middle of the field was constantly available to the skins.

Watkins may not be the answer but Davis and Coleman aren't any better IMHO.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

This is the kind of posting that just grates on people.

WHERE DID I SAY THE SAFETY HAD NO RESPONSIBILITY?

I merely said it was wrong to blame him - stopping that play is a secondary responsibility for him, but a primary responsiblity for the LB's and D-line.

Comparing Davis' responsibility on that run to Watkins getting burned deep multiple times - which is his primary responsibility to prevent - is an incredibly bogus attempt at logic.

Sorry, you're right. You didn't say NO responsibility.

I'm just saying that if Portis had made a great play to shake Davis, that would be one thing. But Davis ran to... Nowhere. He wasn't even close to touching Portis on that play.

And I bet Parcells would give him a good amount of the blame on that play, too.

 

[aikemirv]

Roy Williams, Keith Davis and Marcus Coleman cost us the game Sunday, so what's the difference and they are NOT rookies, like I said with the Drew Bledsoe situation I'll stomach a rookie making the mistakes but not a veteran!

Lets replace TO with Hurd while we are at it because he is the one that really COSTS us the game!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Sorry, you're right. You didn't say NO responsibility.

I'm just saying that if Portis had made a great play to shake Davis, that would be one thing. But Davis ran to... Nowhere. He wasn't even close to touching Portis on that play.

And I bet Parcells would give him a good amount of the blame on that play, too.

Like I said before his reaction to that play was horrid. After starting how many games? he still shows no "feel" for the position. I'll take the rook and the challenges he presented.

It sounded in the press conference that Parcells was going to give him another shot at some point anyhow.