Broaddus/Cavanaugh: Guyton choosing not to play

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I would question the source on this. Broaddus is reaching for clicks. A month ago he questioned whether Jerry wanted to sign Dak and CeeDee to extensions. Then the next week he said that Parsons might get traded. Broaddus is in the business of selling Cowboys content so he has to come up with something. I notice he does not say anything negative about his boy Zimmer. Guyton has a neck and shoulder injury. I would be careful with calling a NFL player soft who might be a hit away from neck surgery.
 

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Supposedly Guyton is soft and could play but is choosing not to. At the Senior Bowl he wanted to go home after getting beat and they had to beg him to stay.

2 first round picks in a row mentally weak. I’ve been McClays biggest advocate but it may be time to go.
Yes, McClay who executive directs the scouting department, vets the picks an in effect is the shadow GM.
 

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It was a "need" pick. He only had 70 snaps at LT in college. So, he had project written all over him. There were 7 or 8 OTs taken ahead of him in the first round. So, a lot of teams with a need passed on him. In a year where there weren't so many teams with a need for OT, he's probably not a first round pick. He never should have been thrown out there week 1. A smarter team would have resigned Tyron for a year and let the kid learn and get stronger.
 

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Another sissy.

He should start a pod casting.

Dallas is TEAM-SISSY

A team of sissies, led by a senile old liver spotted man, whose clothes smell of urine.
 

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It was a "need" pick. He only had 70 snaps at LT in college. So, he had project written all over him. There were 7 or 8 OTs taken ahead of him in the first round. So, a lot of teams with a need passed on him. In a year where there weren't so many teams with a need for OT, he's probably not a first round pick. He never should have been thrown out there week 1. A smarter team would have resigned Tyron for a year and let the kid learn and get stronger.
Do you know that Tyron would've signed a one year contract? You don't just offer a guy a contract and they have to sign it. Plus, knowing his injury history Guyton likely would've ended up starting at least 3 games. We aren't going anywhere this year. Give us the greatest starting LT of all-time and we still wouldn't be contending. Let him get some snaps, get some experience, have a full off-season with NFL level diet and workouts, and hopefully see your next all-pro LT for the next 10 years starting next season. Or just move him to RT. Richards isn't bad.
 

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Do you know that Tyron would've signed a one year contract? You don't just offer a guy a contract and they have to sign it. Plus, knowing his injury history Guyton likely would've ended up starting at least 3 games. We aren't going anywhere this year. Give us the greatest starting LT of all-time and we still wouldn't be contending. Let him get some snaps, get some experience, have a full off-season with NFL level diet and workouts, and hopefully see your next all-pro LT for the next 10 years starting next season. Or just move him to RT. Richards isn't bad.

His contract with the Jets is pretty much an one year deal. It just has void years to spread out the signing bonus for a cheaper 2024 cap hit.
 

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I watched a you tube video with David Irving. He spilled a lot of tea. About smoking weed and them using the suspensions to low ball him during contract year. He had better stats in 7 games than a lot of star D-Line players in the league had all year. Was playing for the contract for his family. He said SJ is a huge problem with lowballing and using anything he can to get players cheap. He just like Mazi didn’t like football but played for the money, Imagine if Irving wanted to play. And he did mention the fact that the year after he left they changed the weed policy for players.
 

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I will give him the benefit of the doubt to develop.

But I hated the player prior to the draft, I hated the pick and I still don’t like it. We were not in a position to draft a project OL player with the state of the OL.

Imagine guys like Mark Tuinei, Larry Allen, Erik Williams choosing not to play
unfortunately this is not today's NFL. This is one of the many reasons why I am growing bored with the NFL.
 

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I watched a you tube video with David Irving. He spilled a lot of tea. About smoking weed and them using the suspensions to low ball him during contract year. He had better stats in 7 games than a lot of star D-Line players in the league had all year. Was playing for the contract for his family. He said SJ is a huge problem with lowballing and using anything he can to get players cheap. He just like Mazi didn’t like football but played for the money, Imagine if Irving wanted to play. And he did mention the fact that the year after he left they changed the weed policy for players.
Irving is the type of guy that gets GMs fired. Guy flashes for 3-4 games like He's Reggie White, then you don't hear from him again for 2 months. He definitely would've been massively overpaid by some team if he hit free agency without the suspensions.
 

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Bryan is biting his lip. He wants so bad to talk about the real crux of it, which is a terrible culture of enabling. He knows where the bodies are buried. If we had a better foundation by which ti build our house, guyton would never be an issue. It would all stay hush hush. They would handle it internally.
 

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So, if we can't get them physically broken we are fine with mentally broken. Damn, you gotta admire their commitment to making sure they are broken in some way.
 

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Irving is the type of guy that gets GMs fired. Guy flashes for 3-4 games like He's Reggie White, then you don't hear from him again for 2 months. He definitely would've been massively overpaid by some team if he hit free agency without the suspensions.
I see why SJ did what he did in this case. Dude just didn't care. Bad team mate. What a shame. I never agree with sj, but this one wasn't on him. Irving deserved everything he got.
 

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Regardless of individual culpability, the "issues" surrounding this organization just further validates that there needs to be a complete change from top to bottom. Burn it down.
 

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I watched a you tube video with David Irving. He spilled a lot of tea. About smoking weed and them using the suspensions to low ball him during contract year. He had better stats in 7 games than a lot of star D-Line players in the league had all year. Was playing for the contract for his family. He said SJ is a huge problem with lowballing and using anything he can to get players cheap. He just like Mazi didn’t like football but played for the money, Imagine if Irving wanted to play. And he did mention the fact that the year after he left they changed the weed policy for players.
SJ gets a kudos from me on this one. What else should he have done? Irving even says it, he never wanted to play ball for the right reasons. That's a full stop. Any team with a player or players like this is DOOMED. culture matters. I think we may have a team chalk full of David Irving's, honestly.
 
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