Broaddus/Cavanaugh: Guyton choosing not to play

[Kingofholland]

I know sometimes there is a massive raw talent that jumps out, but if the talent possesses any sign of laziness/poor work ethic, or interest in football in general those types of players usually don't work out.

It's concerning if this story is true about Guyton, but he has atleast showed some improvement and flashed at times. So I wouldn't label him a bust yet.

 

[cowboyjf]

I really like where we are right now as a franchise.

Jerry - is that you?

 

[Creeper]

When teams are down the rumor mill churns faster. Broaddus has been wrong about a lot of things so I am not buying this story just yet.

In the meantime, Asim Richards played the entire game against the Eagles, I couldn't watch the game here in NJ but from what I saw on Red Zone and CBS late in the game I didn't see him mess up badly.

Are PFF grades out? How did he do?

 

[McKDaddy]

I see why SJ did what he did in this case. Dude just didn't care. Bad team mate. What a shame. I never agree with sj, but this one wasn't on him. Irving deserved everything he got.

yeah, every organization has the right & responsibility to protect itself from players who may not be fully committed. on the other hand, even players like Irving must look at the organization handing out contracts to the Jaylon's of the world and think at least I'm healthy & can make a difference when I want to. would it really kill ya to give me a mid level pay rate?

 

[atlantacowboy]

Do you know that Tyron would've signed a one year contract? You don't just offer a guy a contract and they have to sign it. Plus, knowing his injury history Guyton likely would've ended up starting at least 3 games. We aren't going anywhere this year. Give us the greatest starting LT of all-time and we still wouldn't be contending. Let him get some snaps, get some experience, have a full off-season with NFL level diet and workouts, and hopefully see your next all-pro LT for the next 10 years starting next season. Or just move him to RT. Richards isn't bad.

He signed one with the Jets. Why wouldn't he have signed one with us? We didn't even try. Keeping Tyron on an incentive laiden contract (like the one he signed in NY) would have made a lot of sense for a lot of reasons. Those games Tyron couldn't go would be perfect situations for Guyton to get in the game and get some experience. The guy had 70 snaps in college at LT. He's not ready and now we learn he's soft between the ears? Tyron may have made mistakes his rookie year but he was tough as nails. Not sure Guyton is cut from that cloth.

 

[Rayman70]

Next vid Bryan Broaddus does Maybe he can hold up a sign that says help me. Lol. Poor guy has such a painful grimace on his face you can tell their are things happening in this organization, structure-wise, that he cannot endorse but badly wants to talk about, but can't. He's a good dude, imperfect, but the genuine article, love or hate him.

 

[Rayman70]

yeah, every organization has the right & responsibility to protect itself from players who may not be fully committed. on the other hand, even players like Irving must look at the organization handing out contracts to the Jaylon's of the world and think at least I'm healthy & can make a difference when I want to. would it really kill ya to give me a mid level pay rate?

Anybody in their right mind would never pay an employee but the bare minimum they can get away with if their performance level doesn't cancel out the misgivings of said employee. He got what he earned. Can't stand the Jones clowns, but here I agree. Can't reward a bad employee by not reprimanding them when they continually screw up. Irving showed not one iota of remorse if memory serves.

 

[Coogiguy03]

That is a beyond stupid idea.

same as you waking up everyday and drinking iced coffee

 

[blueblood70]

Supposedly Guyton is soft and could play but is choosing not to. At the Senior Bowl he wanted to go home after getting beat and they had to beg him to stay.

2 first round picks in a row mentally weak. I’ve been McClays biggest advocate but it may be time to go.

Actually that's not soft I'm sorry you guys are just picking on the wrong people and by the way do you believe these guys know the truth if he's borderline and feels like he can't perform his best and by the way he's not having a good season maybe he needs to take a step back he is injured he tried to come back and he couldn't play through it he's definitely injured but why would you expect a guy to play if he feels like he can hurt the team and himself more you're calling him soft how about you get your **** on the field you can't even survive a workout with these guys I don't think he saw I think he's doing the right thing why risk further injury and getting more hurt and not able perform up to the level you need to.. And by the way players don't get to choose whether they play or not if he's injured enough that he has a choice that means he's injured too injured to play there's some people that could play through it like lamb but what exactly did he do what what was the point of having him in the game?.

This is almost as bad as the Prescott being belittled online about being soft it turns out he had something torn off the bone you don't know what's going on with the guy physically that's creating the mental problems that would keep him from playing up to a high level in the NFL.. None of you learn ever to stop overreacting to little things being written that you don't know how much truth there is to it at all you don't know the real story neither do they I like it that most people say everything that these guys right to take it with a grain of salt because most of its nonsense but whenever they say something that you can jump all over so you can vent on then you do so I'm venting on you I think this is ridiculous to be calling out a rookie for not wanting to play injured because maybe he feels like he can't play well enough to help the team and again the team can make him play they can say go out and play he don't get a choice but if he's injured enough that he has a choice then then you should get off his short and curly get off everyone short and curly...

 

[blueblood70]

Wow. Hopefully this is a slight exaggeration.

If this is true, our scouts/front office has gone off the deep end.

Do you mean a slight exaggeration it could be 80% exaggeration anybody who jumps all over somebody without knowing the situation would be the same way those morons did that online saying Prescott little tiny hamstring strain he's soft he's letting his team down and guess what happened?

 

[CowboysRule]

He signed one with the Jets. Why wouldn't he have signed one with us? We didn't even try. Keeping Tyron on an incentive laiden contract (like the one he signed in NY) would have made a lot of sense for a lot of reasons. Those games Tyron couldn't go would be perfect situations for Guyton to get in the game and get some experience. The guy had 70 snaps in college at LT. He's not ready and now we learn he's soft between the ears? Tyron may have made mistakes his rookie year but he was tough as nails. Not sure Guyton is cut from that cloth.

Maybe he didn't want to be here? Maybe he saw where the organization was going. The Jets were considered Super Bowl contenders before the season started. Maybe he wanted to try to get that championship before he retired. Maybe we didn't try because his agent told Dallas he was interested in moving on. We really don't know what went on behind the scenes.

 

[blueblood70]

Supposedly Guyton is soft and could play but is choosing not to. At the Senior Bowl he wanted to go home after getting beat and they had to beg him to stay.

2 first round picks in a row mentally weak. I’ve been McClays biggest advocate but it may be time to go.

Of the all knowing social media has spoken a writer who most of us don't even respect or listen to you're using that information to jump all over and call somebody soft how about this you're soft and weak minded because you're believing things you read on the Internet why don't you show me this man's MRI show me his X-ray why don't you go spend 3 days with the man and you tell me that if he feels he's too injured to play you're calling him soft but you don't know any of the details I think it's ridiculous if the man was healthy enough to play he doesn't get to choose whether he plays enough if he feels he's a liability on the field and can hurt himself more he has a right not to play.. And you have and you have no right judging the man from behind your desk or your phone wherever it is you think you're right from your preaching from the rooftops you're accusing a man just like those idiots did saying Prescott was being soft and not a good teammate and guess what happened the truth came out..

So why before you judge a man why don't you go find out the truth because this is a really ridiculous post like a bunch of posts now that people jump all over reading an article and calling out a player and now calling out the assistant GM and now just need to start your own little vent post well thank you for allowing me to vent on you because I get tired of fans like you you don't know what the man and the kids going through you have no idea 00 you're reading this nonsense online and then make an opinion about it that is the problem with social media everybody's guilty before the real truth comes out 'cause everybody posts everything without any real actual proof attached to it they're hearing something and then it snowballs and then the kids soft and he's not even hardly injured and he could play choosing not to play that's what you're believing and you have no facts whatsoever except for some beat writer who's not even an official beat writer anymore..

 

[blueblood70]

young rookie thrown into a dysfunctional atmosphere of epic proportions, tough environment to teach a youngster discipline and camaraderie.

And I'm telling you that you're responding to a fan who knows nothing a guy in the zone is reacting and overreacting to a non story because we have no facts to support any of this by the way where is the link where is the official link from an official start where where's the trainer the medical staff the doctors the MRI and the X-rays and a little quote from the player can we hear about the player before we jump all over somebody and start having an entire thread on something that has 0 validity until it does nobody knows the real situation here and yet now we have a entire thread with know it all Internet geniuses talking about somebody behind their back and calling them soft

 

[blueblood70]

Maybe he didn't want to be here? Maybe he saw where the organization was going. The Jets were considered Super Bowl contenders before the season started. Maybe he wanted to try to get that championship before he retired. Maybe we didn't try because his agent told Dallas he was interested in moving on. We really don't know what went on behind the scenes.

And tyron Smith was wrong and Jerry was right I know nobody wants to hear that but people were angry they let tyron Smith he played one or two solid games and now he's back to doing nothing if that's your talking about the guy you're talking to is blocked but tyron Smith should have retired just like next year it'll probably be Martin but at some point you have to let players go and everyone being mad when we let them go when we know they hardly were near their regular selves and now we're over here telling a kid a young rookie and guyton that he should play injured in a losing season if he doesn't feel mentally and physically able to play at an NFL high level without hurting his teammates and we have no idea what the real is here and we're jumping all over him it's just ridiculous this is social media this is what it is people find a story they make it real and then they get their opinion on how much they hate the player or coach because of a story that we don't even have the details on just like that group of idiots on their little sports show calling out Prescott for being soft oh he was hurting the team he's not a good teammate he should be able to play through a hamstring right that's this is what the Internet does where is the doctors report the MRI is the X-ray the actual official from the start somebody who knows guy even works with him where's he anywhere talking about this it sounds like a rumor to me and a bad one at that..

 

[blueblood70]

Supposedly Guyton is soft and could play but is choosing not to. At the Senior Bowl he wanted to go home after getting beat and they had to beg him to stay.

2 first round picks in a row mentally weak. I’ve been McClays biggest advocate but it may be time to go.

Where is the link to the official story of this 'cause I didn't think we were allowed to start and spread rumors especially when it comes to a player possibly being faking injuries or not want to play and demanding to sit where's the link where's the official story from somebody who actually matters over at the star you know like somebody like I don't know the rehab guy that the doctors the trainers Jerry himself Steven how about mcclay how about you ask somebody where is this real story coming from are you telling me that this story is from the senior bowl and not this past game I mean where is the story you don't even have a full story so yeah I get the vent on you I think you're soft because you didn't bring in a link and I think that you're mentally soft because you believe everything you read..

That's right I think you're soft I think you jumping all over a young kid where he can't defend himself and sit here and start a rumor without a link and without any proof makes you mentally soft it makes you weak to the Internet you are a sheep

 

[G2]

If a player doesn't want to play, bench him. Who really gives a crap at this point?

 

[charron]

Not a fan of the pick. It still doesn't make much sense to draft a project in round 1 then make him switch sides, which can be really tough for some players.

 

[DizzyT]

Back to back years our 1st round pick has been bad.. I’m starting to wonder about Will Mcclay.

 

[Cowboys93]

Honestly not much value was lost so whatever lol

 

[gtb1943]

want more sources about this but at the same time I am not buying massive word salads from people who know nothing about the situation