Broaddus: Cowboys Laying Ground Work for Trade Down

[SilverStarCowboy]

Ya think?

While there is certain guys that Dallas would take at #9. Including Marcel Dareus and Patrick Peterson. That doesn't mean they will be there.

A Top flight Defensive player and a decent RT is far greater than the RT/Potential LT Tyron Smith, especially for this season.

 

[UnoDallas]

A big mistake IMO if we draft Solder - lets draft another project at ROT

not a day one starter but maybe a year two or three starter

much rather have Sherrod - Carimi - Costanzo one of those three

IMO Solder is not even anywhere close to being as good as these guys

IMO I rather have

Jah Reid, OT, Central Florida 6-7 #321
Richard Lapham, OT, Boston College 6-8 #321
3/10/11: Nate Solder looked great in the drills during his Pro Day, but there's some concern about his weight. Solder was 319 at the Combine, but apparently had trouble keeping that weight on, as he lost 12 pounds in less than two weeks.

2/27/11: Nate Solder sucked on the bench press and still has some bad tape to answer for, but he really stood out at the Combine. At 6-8, 319, Solder ran a 4.97 and displayed incredible athleticism in the drills.

1/30/11: How is this guy the next Tony Boselli again? Nate Solder is constantly praised, yet he was easily beaten on numerous occasions in the Senior Bowl by Day 2 prospects like Sam Acho and Brooks Reed. He had some nice blocks in the running game, but overall, Solder was very unimpressive.

1/27/11: I don't think Nate Solder has been impressive at the Senior Bowl. But he gets a "stock up" because Mike Mayock keeps talking about Solder being the next Tony Boselli. Hopefully that's the pre-Texans Boselli.

10/2/10: Solder's height is going to be a problem at the next level because he doesn't have Orlando Pace's or Jonathan Ogden's elite level of agility. He struggles to bend at the knees and is often caught overextending.


well I will be sadly dissappointed if we draft SOLDER

and sayin what were the SCOUTS thinking

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

A big mistake IMO if we draft Solder - lets draft another project at ROT

not a day one starter but maybe a year two or three starter

much rather have Sherrod - Carimi - Costanzo one of those three

IMO Solder is not even anywhere close to being as good as these guys

IMO I rather have

Jah Reid, OT, Central Florida 6-7 #321
Richard Lapham, OT, Boston College 6-8 #321
3/10/11: Nate Solder looked great in the drills during his Pro Day, but there's some concern about his weight. Solder was 319 at the Combine, but apparently had trouble keeping that weight on, as he lost 12 pounds in less than two weeks.

2/27/11: Nate Solder sucked on the bench press and still has some bad tape to answer for, but he really stood out at the Combine. At 6-8, 319, Solder ran a 4.97 and displayed incredible athleticism in the drills.

1/30/11: How is this guy the next Tony Boselli again? Nate Solder is constantly praised, yet he was easily beaten on numerous occasions in the Senior Bowl by Day 2 prospects like Sam Acho and Brooks Reed. He had some nice blocks in the running game, but overall, Solder was very unimpressive.

1/27/11: I don't think Nate Solder has been impressive at the Senior Bowl. But he gets a "stock up" because Mike Mayock keeps talking about Solder being the next Tony Boselli. Hopefully that's the pre-Texans Boselli.

10/2/10: Solder's height is going to be a problem at the next level because he doesn't have Orlando Pace's or Jonathan Ogden's elite level of agility. He struggles to bend at the knees and is often caught overextending.


well I will be sadly dissappointed if we draft SOLDER

and sayin what were the SCOUTS thinking

If you listen to Von Miller, Solder was far and away the best LT he faced in his career. I think people are short changing him.

 

[NeonNinja]

If you listen to Von Miller, Solder was far and away the best LT he faced in his career. I think people are short changing him.

Miller is only speed rushing. Give Solder a mixture of speed/power and he will most likely struggle, he's not strong enough to anchor imo.

 

[reddyuta]

Mosley confirmed on Ben and skin that his sources tell him that we do have interest in Solder(they think he is more athletic than Free).I really dont want to wait 2 years for Solder to realize his potential.They should draft him only if think he can start from day 1, the better option would be Carimi or Costanzo .

 

[ThreeandOut]

Broaddus and Mosley were on Ben and Skin this morning. Broaddus mentioned Dallas ranks the top OT's and DE's very closely. Mosley indicated they were interested in Watt and indicated the three OT's they were interested in were Smith, Costanzo and Solder. He also said Dallas would consider a trade back as far as 17-18.

Mosley acknowledged this trade back talk could be a smokescreen but said he was convinced it was legitimate based on who he spoke to.

 

[RS12]

Problem is Jerry sucks at trading down. Bill Walsh he aint.

 

[UnoDallas]

If you listen to Von Miller, Solder was far and away the best LT he faced in his career. I think people are short changing him.

sorry ABQ I don't listen to him -

and did he ever go againest - Sherrod - Carimi - Castonzo ?

just asking because the big 12 OT's give me a break

if Solder is the best then he better watch out in the NFL

or he won't be around for very long

 

[UnoDallas]

Broaddus and Mosley were on Ben and Skin this morning. Broaddus mentioned Dallas ranks the top OT's and DE's very closely. Mosley indicated they were interested in Watt and indicated the three OT's they were interested in were Smith, Costanzo and Solder. He also said Dallas would consider a trade back as far as 17-18.

Mosley acknowledged this trade back talk could be a smokescreen but said he was convinced it was legitimate based on who he spoke to.

SmokeScreen whats that ????????

:laugh2:

17 -18 to get ahead of Giants and Philly perfect spot

 

[YosemiteSam]

Mosley was also saying they are looking to trade down. Also, said Dallas will not be taking T Smith at 9. He indicated that Dallas is more likely to take Watt or Solder than Smith. Mosley's supposed to have more out on this today.

That is an absolute laugher of a comment. Mosley just poops all over his credibility with that statement. Solder is probably has the biggest bust potential of all the tackles that could go in the first round. Another reason I know they aren't looking at Solder is the fact that Solder is a lock for a zone blocking team. We have a OL coach that doesn't do zone blocking schemes.

While Smith could probably play in a zone blocking scheme, he will also have the size, strength, and power to be a road grader.

I would say Solder is more likely to be drafted by the Commanders than the Cowboys. If the Cowboys draft Solder it will be because all the other tackles are gone in my opinion.

As for trading back, it's very possible. Though I'm not sure if the smokescreen here isn't just Mosley inventing news so he has something to write.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Mosley confirmed on Ben and skin that his sources tell him that we do have interest in Solder(they think he is more athletic than Free).I really dont want to wait 2 years for Solder to realize his potential.They should draft him only if think he can start from day 1, the better option would be Carimi or Costanzo .

Broaddus and Mosley were on Ben and Skin this morning. Broaddus mentioned Dallas ranks the top OT's and DE's very closely. Mosley indicated they were interested in Watt and indicated the three OT's they were interested in were Smith, Costanzo and Solder. He also said Dallas would consider a trade back as far as 17-18.

Mosley acknowledged this trade back talk could be a smokescreen but said he was convinced it was legitimate based on who he spoke to.

Thanks, as I started this thread I was going to ask if anyone caught Mosley on B&S today, because I tuned out about that time he was supposed to come on.

While I don't doubt this at all and do like the idea of trading back, I do kind of wonder if this could be some disinformation. It seems to me that every year, Mosley (like many other reporters) gets several stories during the process, and as I recall it, it goes something like:

First reports = good solid info
Second reports = changing of the story to other players
Third reports right before draft = back to first reports.

 

[Gaede]

I would say Solder is more likely to be drafted by the Commanders than the Cowboys. If the Cowboys draft Solder it will be because all the other tackles are gone in my opinion.

As for trading back, it's very possible. Though I'm not sure if the smokescreen here isn't just Mosley inventing news so he has something to write.

Good point. The leaked 'interest' in Solder is probably a smokescreen for a different guy they may like. I agree he doesn't appear to fit into our OL philosophy. They're most definitely interested in trading down-but that's like saying a bear ****s in the woods; Jerry interested in trading down in every draft.

 

[JBS]

Listen, I dislike Solder just as much as the rest of you...but just because none of us want doesn't mean it's a smokescreen

It could be a scenario in which we take Watt with our 1st pick and Solder in a trade up from rd 2...while I still hate the pick, it's not as bad as taking Solder first

 

[Gaede]

Listen, I dislike Solder just as much as the rest of you...but just because none of us want doesn't mean it's a smokescreen

I think Solder is most likely a smokescreen just because he's antithesis of the type of guy we like here. I doubt that all of a sudden we're gonna change our OL philosophy/makeup

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Wow. Hes not playing around


MJThrill: what makes you say the Boys are takin Smith?? is it just a hunch?
Mosley - I said they aren't. More than a hunch.

Cows like JJ Watt, Cam Jordan and even Prince A. If they can move off that No. 9 pick, they will. No way they take Fairley.

http://twitter.com/#!/mattmosley

 

[Gaede]

Gimme Watt or Jordan and I'm a happy camper. Both those guys are disruptive, solid, football players

But you damn well better pick up an OT or OG in the second round. If we march Colombo back out there opening day............

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

sorry ABQ I don't listen to him -

and did he ever go againest - Sherrod - Carimi - Castonzo ?

just asking because the big 12 OT's give me a break

if Solder is the best then he better watch out in the NFL

or he won't be around for very long

Really? Well, lets step back a second and evaluate talent here. Miller did not go up against Sherrod, Carimi or Castonzo but, he did go up against Jason Smith (2nd pick overall 2009), Trent Williams (4th pick overall 2010) and Russell Okung (6th pick overall in 2010), all of which IMO are better then any of the tackles you have listed above.


This board may not like Solder but that doesn't mean he doesn't have some good skills. If you watch the combine, Solder is far and away the best performing OL out there. It would be a mistake, IMO, to discount this player. Clearly, Miller thinks he has skills.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

That has to be the plan otherwise this is just stupid.

They need to get one of the top 5 tackles.

If Julio is on the board then the Rams should be giving them enough ammo to accomplish just that.

 

[NeonNinja]

So is Mosley guaranteeing we will NOT take Smith at all or just at #9?

If we trade down for Watt/Jordan then we have to get OT at 40 or trade back up (Carimi)

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

mattmosley Matt Mosley
I don't know how else to break it you guys. The Cowboys aren't taking Tyron Smith at No. 9. This could screw up P King's mock.


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I take it Tyron would be gone at 10, 12, or 13