Broaddus: McCarthy is Coach of the Year

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How many other HCs are going to 4-1 without their starting QB?

Add in missing their starting LT, TE, and WR2. The backup LT is rookie. The starting LG is a career backup player. Add in the RT being unproven.

The Cowboys were down 5 staters on offense. I do not care what teams they played, that is a very difficult task and the team went 4-1.
I agree, but some would say it's the coach's job to have viable options in place, in case those starters get hurt. Granted, that's a moot argument, since those guys actually turned out to be more than just 'viable'.
 

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After being an avid listener I was forced to stop listening because of how they crowbarred Ambar in a couple years ago. She started really bad and it sounds like she’s only gotten a little better.
 

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But voting for Coach of the Year requires slightly more thought than that.
So what qualifies McCarthy to be Coach of the Year? Or any coach for that matter?
You'll always have those scenarios with any coach and any team.
The bottom line has to be "wins." It's the only empirical measurement we have, which is why we count wins and losses as the final criteria.
Well, yes, the Pats went 16-0 but ... they were playing in a week division, the refs cheated for them, they got Randy Moss on the cheap, and on and on and on.
And yet ... none of those things are recorded in the stat sheets. Only 16-0 and 18-1.
 

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So what qualifies McCarthy to be Coach of the Year? Or any coach for that matter?
You'll always have those scenarios with any coach and any team.
The bottom line has to be "wins." It's the only empirical measurement we have, which is why we count wins and losses as the final criteria.
Well, yes, the Pats went 16-0 but ... they were playing in a week division, the refs cheated for them, they got Randy Moss on the cheap, and on and on and on.
And yet ... none of those things are recorded in the stat sheets. Only 16-0 and 18-1.

I mean, the most simple way to dispute this is to point out the obvious. The Coach of the Year doesn't always have the most wins.

I'm guessing because more thought goes into it than that.

Here's a question. Would Nick Sirianni be 10-1 if he lost his starting QB for 5 weeks?
 

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Because few were expecting the Dolphins were going to challenge the Bills for the AFC East title. Meanwhile, the Cowboys won the NFC East last year, and were supposed to contend along with the Eagles.
Also, this is McCarthy's third year, McDaniel's first.
The Dolphins haven't been relevant in years; the Cowboys are always relevant.
McCarthy basically has to go undefeated to get the award. That aint happening this year.
I’m not sure about always relevant unless you mean viewing figures and hype.
 

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Armbar demonstrates the difficulty in prioritizing diversity over merit.

I hadn't thought about it, but Mike deserves serious consideration for the award. Good for him. And good for Broadus pointing it out. I don't know which is more surprising.
 

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A couple months ago she had to be told that the 4 time Super Bowl Champion New York Giants used to be a really good team.

She's there on merit!
There now has to be a woman in every bit of media in regards to the NFL, or sports talk in general. I have 4 daughters and 1 is a D2 softball head coach. She knows her stuff, BUT.... It is demeaning to woman IMO to just stick woman on shows because they are woman. The vast majority of the woman are pretty hot and thats say all you need to know.

Look at Jason Taylor sister tat recently left The Herd ( And she is very good by the way and absolutely knows her stuff), Molly on ESPN, Christine whatever that used to be with skip and Shannon, ...... when those shows only put hot chicks on them, it is embarrassing. Old balding Terry Bradshaw, Jimmy, all those men can get old and fat and keep their jobs, as they should be able to do..... not so much for the woman.

I dont listen to all of those Cowboys shows as much as I used to, but what was the HOT Hispanic girl that used(she may still be on the show, I dont know) to be on Talking Cowboys or one of those shows. She was smoking hot, but she knew jack squat about football or the team and it was a joke.
 

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I think this season's schedule is what's making MM seem like a genius all of a sudden.
No one wants to discuss how before the season started the Cowboys and commanders were tied for having the easiest schedules.
The Rams and Bengals were much weaker then expected to start the season and the schedule became even easier. Now MM is a candidate for COTY?
what the season is when it starts and what it is at the end NEVER matches up.
 

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Yeah but then you have that pesky issue of the other 15 years of his head coaching career where he's winning better than 60% of his games with 10 playoff appearances, 4 Championship Games and a Super Bowl title.
and that pesky part about having his HOF, and 4 time NFL MVP QB on his roster. The year he won a title, he coincidentally had the leagues MVP taking snaps.

Again, hes good, as is all of them, but nothing special. Going for it last week on 4th and 1 that early on your 40 was STUPID. When you are better, you dont do things that give the other guys chances. He as had many terrible decisions imo since hes been here, LONG FG and terrible Time management.

I do like his demeanor and ability to deal with media. I have no problem with him, but I would chose Payton over him if I could.
 

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I mean, the most simple way to dispute this is to point out the obvious. The Coach of the Year doesn't always have the most wins.

I'm guessing because more thought goes into it than that.

Here's a question. Would Nick Sirianni be 10-1 if he lost his starting QB for 5 weeks?

We don't know. That's the point!

You don't award the Coach of the Year by what you don't know (the "ifs" and "buts"), but what you do know.

And what we DO know is ...
1. Sirianni led his team to a 9-8 record last year with a playoff appearance
2. He has led his team to a 10-1 record (the best record this year) currently.

Secondly, no, the Coach of the Year does not always have the best record. But the Coach of the Year generally has improved his team's position from one year to the next. And wins are definitely factored into the equation.

Trivia quiz: Who was the last Coach of the Year winner with a team that had a losing record?
Answer? Jimmy Johnson in 1990. Johnson's team had a 7-9 record. But do you know WHY he won?
Because his team showed the most improvement from one year (1-15) to the next. And the team almost clinched a playoff berth on the last week of the season.

Be that as it may, because Johnson showed his coaching ability with a team that previously won one game and improved significantly the next year, he won the award. Hence, wins have as much to do with it as anything. That's the most tangible way to measure improvement.

You look at the COTY winners and you're looking at 12 wins, 15 wins, 13 wins, 11, wins, 16 wins, 10 wins. Yes, WINS do matter in the equation. And Sirianni has the most so far.
 

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That's some coaching job by Sirianni causing them to miss those routine FGs.
Thats funny what you did there, because thats how I think when I see a play called that breaks down for the Chiefs, Mahomes runs all over the field , stops and throws it 50 yards down field for a TD leading his team to yet another win and then I get to hear about their great coaching and play calling.
 

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I think this season's schedule is what's making MM seem like a genius all of a sudden.
No one wants to discuss how before the season started the Cowboys and commanders were tied for having the easiest schedules.
The Rams and Bengals were much weaker then expected to start the season and the schedule became even easier. Now MM is a candidate for COTY?
Schedule-Schmedule. What team lost their QB1 in week one and went 4-1 in the next 5 games with a backup?
 
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She is hilarious and TERRIBLE. I can slap you with my left hand as good as my right hand while explaining why someone should easily be able to switch from LT to RT.

I also can not stand listening to her.
 

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How many other HCs are going to 4-1 without their starting QB?

Add in missing their starting LT, TE, and WR2. The backup LT is rookie. The starting LG is a career backup player. Add in the RT being unproven.

The Cowboys were down 5 staters on offense. I do not care what teams they played, that is a very difficult task and the team went 4-1.

We hear how great Reid is, hed probably go 5-0 if his QB went down.

And the greatest to ever breathe oxygen, Billy Boy, hed probably go 9-1 if his starter was down FIVE games.
 

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We don't know. That's the point!

You don't award the Coach of the Year by what you don't know (the "ifs" and "buts"), but what you do know.

And what we DO know is ...
1. Sirianni led his team to a 9-8 record last year with a playoff appearance
2. He has led his team to a 10-1 record (the best record this year) currently.

Secondly, no, the Coach of the Year does not always have the best record. But the Coach of the Year generally has improved his team's position from one year to the next. And wins are definitely factored into the equation.

Trivia quiz: Who was the last Coach of the Year winner with a team that had a losing record?
Answer? Jimmy Johnson in 1990. Johnson's team had a 7-9 record. But do you know WHY he won?
Because his team showed the most improvement from one year (1-15) to the next. And the team almost clinched a playoff berth on the last week of the season.

Be that as it may, because Johnson showed his coaching ability with a team that previously won one game and improved significantly the next year, he won the award. Hence, wins have as much to do with it as anything. That's the most tangible way to measure improvement.

You look at the COTY winners and you're looking at 12 wins, 15 wins, 13 wins, 11, wins, 16 wins, 10 wins. Yes, WINS do matter in the equation. And Sirianni has the most so far.

You award coach of the year by determining who you believe did the best coaching job all things considered. To simply look at won/loss record is way too simplistic which is why that coach doesn't win it ever year. The league is literally telling you your logic is flawed.
 
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