Broaddus: McCarthy is Coach of the Year

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Easy to criticise Amber, but she is very good at what she does
what she does is a co-host of a radio show that talks and gives analysis on the Cowoys. I disagree that she is good at that job. But that is just one ans opinion. I personally would prefer her to not be on the show.
 

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Oh Jesus
Quinn is the reason we're winning
really? Well why did were his Falcons atrocious when he left and that roster was horrible? They still stink and it is carry over from what that team was when he left.
 

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Yeah but then you have that pesky issue of the other 15 years of his head coaching career where he's winning better than 60% of his games with 10 playoff appearances, 4 Championship Games and a Super Bowl title.
I forget, who were his pre Dallas quarterbacks again?
 

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You award coach of the year by determining who you believe did the best coaching job all things considered. To simply look at won/loss record is way too simplistic which is why that coach doesn't win it ever year. The league is literally telling you your logic is flawed.

Too much sarcasm has affected your brain's ability to perceive logic. ;)

I didn't say "simply look at won/loss record." We started talking about wins because of your silly argument that the Eagles only won and have the record they do because two of their opponents missed field goals. My response was: So what? They still won. THAT'S when "wins" enter the conversation.

But ... yes "wins" are a factor. Or, maybe, I'll ask you ...

HOW do you determine if a coach did the best coaching job?

Go through the history of COTY (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Coach_of_the_Year_Award) and show me the coach who won the award and had one win. In fact, as I pointed out, Jimmy Johnson is the only coach who won with a losing record.

So YES wins ARE a factor. Again, unless you can make an argument why in the more than 50 years the COTY award has existed that only one coach has won it with a losing record, my observation stands. We measure COTY based on a coach's contribution to his team improving, and we measure improvements in a team by wins whether in season or over the course of seasons. That's the only objective way to measure "improvement."

That's why we have score boards and make final determinations which team is the best by recording wins and losses.
 

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Coach of the Year? Yeah, he's doing a fine job coaching those penalties.
 

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Too much sarcasm has affected your brain's ability to perceive logic. ;)

I didn't say "simply look at won/loss record." We started talking about wins because of your silly argument that the Eagles only won and have the record they do because two of their opponents missed field goals. My response was: So what? They still won. THAT'S when "wins" enter the conversation.

But ... yes "wins" are a factor. Or, maybe, I'll ask you ...

HOW do you determine if a coach did the best coaching job?

Go through the history of COTY (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Football_League_Coach_of_the_Year_Award) and show me the coach who won the award and had one win. In fact, as I pointed out, Jimmy Johnson is the only coach who won with a losing record.

So YES wins ARE a factor. Again, unless you can make an argument why in the more than 50 years the COTY award has existed that only one coach has won it with a losing record, my observation stands. We measure COTY based on a coach's contribution to his team improving, and we measure improvements in a team by wins. That's the only objective way to measure it.

That's why we have score boards and make final determination which team is the best by recording wins and losses.

Your responses should be longer.

Coach of the Year has a long way to go to be decided but if the vote was today, McCarthy's 8-3 could easily get the nod over Sirianni's 10-1 considering McCarthy went 4-1 with his backup QB and Sirianni didn't have to play his.

I'm sure Sirianni would get votes but McCarthy may be preferred by others because of this kind of huge factor in the coaching job they've done.

To any reasonable analyst this is the case. To a simpleton who looks at won/loss record and says hey, 10 is greater than 8, not so much.
 

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Not a chance.

It's either the Eagles or Dolphins coaches.
 

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really? Well why did were his Falcons atrocious when he left and that roster was horrible? They still stink and it is carry over from what that team was when he left.
Try and keep up
 

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Who was Landry's? Who was Jimmy's? Who was Sean Payton's? Since he's the darling of the board.


Landry shouldn’t be in the HoF because he had staubach

Bill walsh shouldn’t because he had Montana.

Jimmy shouldn’t because he had Troy

belicheck shouldn’t because he had Brady.


I guess the only coaches deserving of the hall of fame are Parcells and Gibbs.
 

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So...would you rather have Diggs running around being an irrelevant cornerback or Hurts as a hybrid offensive weapon?
 

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Your responses should be longer.
:laugh:

Coach of the Year has a long way to go to be decided but if the vote was today, McCarthy's 8-3 could easily get the nod over Sirianni's 10-1 considering McCarthy went 4-1 with his backup QB and Sirianni didn't have to play his.

Here go your "ifs" again. We can't prove "ifs." They're irrelevant. And, basically, it's the house upon which you've built your entire argument. If the Colts hadn't missed a field goal, if the vote was held today, etc.,

Next you'll be telling us if Wentz didn't get injured he would have been the greatest Eagles quarterback of all time. ;)

Anything goes in the land of "ifs."

I'm sure Sirianni would get votes but McCarthy may be preferred by others because of this kind of huge factor in the coaching job they've done.

More ifs and maybes. Maybe it will rain today. Maybe it won't.

To any reasonable analyst this is the case. To a simpleton who looks at won/loss record and says hey, 10 is greater than 8, not so much.

You've constructed your ENTIRE argument on hypotheticals, and you're calling someone a "simpleton"?:lmao:

Stick to sarcasm. It's a suit you wear well. ;)
 

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The guy in Miami has to be the front runner, I would think…
 

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Try and keep up
IM trying, but people that fall at the alter of the guy who was a head coach and his team was atrocious I will never understand. So I rely on people like you to educate me, so Ill anxiously await your sermon.
 

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:laugh:



Here go your "ifs" again. We can't prove "ifs." They're irrelevant. And, basically, it's the house upon which you've built your entire argument. If the Colts hadn't missed a field goal, if the vote was held today, etc.,

Next you'll be telling us if Wentz didn't get injured he would have been the greatest Eagles quarterback of all time. ;)

Anything goes in the land of "ifs."



More ifs and maybes. Maybe it will rain today. Maybe it won't.



You've constructed your ENTIRE argument on hypotheticals, and you're calling someone a "simpleton"?:lmao:

Stick to sarcasm. It's a suit you wear well. ;)

There is no if. McCarthy won with a backup QB for a month. This isn't a hypothetical. This actually happened.

The same reason why Saleh is getting a lot of consideration. If it was as simplistic as how many games you've won he wouldn't get much talk but it's the coaching job he's done with what he has that is making him a candidate.

This is only news to you.
 

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Landry shouldn’t be in the HoF because he had staubach

Bill walsh shouldn’t because he had Montana.

Jimmy shouldn’t because he had Troy

belicheck shouldn’t because he had Brady.


I guess the only coaches deserving of the hall of fame are Parcells and Gibbs.

Are you being serious here? Or do I need to catch up on all the comments from 5 pages to see if you're being sarcastic?
 

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There is no if. McCarthy won with a backup QB for a month. This isn't a hypothetical. This actually happened.

Sigh!
What's hypothetical is that you don't know if that would weigh in his favor in terms of COTY.

The same reason why Saleh is getting a lot of consideration. If it was as simplistic as how many games you've won he wouldn't get much talk but it's the coaching job he's done with what he has that is making him a candidate.

Uh, one of the MAJOR reasons Saleh is being considered is because the Jets are unexpectedly 7-4!!!!!!

Do you HONESTLY believe if the Jets were 2-9, Saleh would be considered a COTY candidate?????

Honestly?

This is getting ridiculous now.
See, when you're serious, you try too hard to make sense. Stick with sarcasm. :laugh:
 
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