Broaddus: Parcells fired me over Charles Woodson

[jobberone]

Parcells made a lot of mistakes

Everyone makes a lot of mistakes when it comes to acquiring talent.

 

[joseephuss]

Woodson was drafted by the Raiders in 1998.

Woodson was slapped with the franchise tag in 2004 by the Raiders.

Woodson was again slapped with the franchise tag in 2005 by the Raiders.

Woodson was given a huge free agent deal by the Packers in 2006.

Broaddus was with the Cowboys from 1999-2004 as far as I can tell.

When exactly was Broaddus pushing Parcells to get Woodson?

It wasn't 1998 as neither Broaddus or Parcells were in Dallas.

In 2004? That would have cost Dallas a lot to get him and Dallas was rebuilding at the time. Trading multiple picks for Woodson probably wouldn't have been a great idea.

 

[xwalker]

On the latest draft show Broaddus says why he was fired from the Cowboys.

Says Parcells fired him because he argued with him over Charles Woodson. Saying he argued for him but Parcells was saying he couldnt coach a malcontent. As Davis has labeled Woodson that. And Dallas never brought in Woodson because Parcells didnt want him.

Broaddus was fired because he is is very illogical. He knows some things about scouting players but he can't put multiple pieces of information together to make a logical conclusion.

He has admitted to being a poor student and that his college, LSU, had very low academic standards for football players.

Parcells is the type of person that once he was planning to fire somebody, that he would pick a fight with them over some issue and then make it seem as if the person was fired for that reason.

It's an old school tactic that many hard-arse type people used and many probably still do it. The basic concept has been discussed in books about business. Different people have different reasons for doing it, but Parcells used many old school tactics.

Parcells intentionally failed Larry Allen on his conditioning test and then rode his arse to get in shape. It was all done just to show all other players that Parcells was indeed the Boss. LA was the last of the nineties Super Stars and was the most feared guy on the roster. It was very predictable that Parcells would pick him to be his whipping boy.

He made 1st round picks bring him cups of water. The point was to show that he's the boss and that he does not tolerate Prima Donnas.

I recommend anybody that has not, to study some of the famous hard-arses in history and their antics in dealing with people. George Patton and ex-CEO of GE, Jack Welch are 2 that I find fascinating.

Parcells, Jimmy and Belichick have all followed many old school tactics.

 

[pansophy]

Parcells also famously wanted Spears over DEMARCUS WARE.
Yeah, the guy wasn't great.

Parcells wanted something Jerry never did -- a sure thing. He knew what he was going to get from Spears, but Ware could be have been the player he turned out to be or a complete bust. We have gotten a lot of pro bowlers by going for high risk/reward players but we've also had a lot of duds, and it is the amount of duds rather than pro bowlers that make or break a team.

We are still learning that lesson. The Patriots only sent 4 guys to the pro bowl last year.

 

[tyke1doe]

I believe Broaddus. In jobs not protected by certain employment guidelines, people with tremendously huge egos act just like this.
It happens a lot in holiday, in college sports, in politics, etc. Some of these people want absolute control, and if everyone under you doesn't tow the line, they're out.

I meant Hollywood, not holiday.

 

[SlammedZero]

Yet Parcell's excellent talent evaluation brought in the likes of Bobby Carpenter.

 

[LatinMind]

Broaddus was fired because he is is very illogical. He knows some things about scouting players but he can't put multiple pieces of information together to make a logical conclusion.

He has admitted to being a poor student and that his college, LSU, had very low academic standards for football players.

Parcells is the type of person that once he was planning to fire somebody, that he would pick a fight with them over some issue and then make it seem as if the person was fired for that reason.

It's an old school tactic that many hard-arse type people used and many probably still do it. The basic concept has been discussed in books about business. Different people have different reasons for doing it, but Parcells used many old school tactics.

Parcells intentionally failed Larry Allen on his conditioning test and then rode his arse to get in shape. It was all done just to show all other players that Parcells was indeed the Boss. LA was the last of the nineties Super Stars and was the most feared guy on the roster. It was very predictable that Parcells would pick him to be his whipping boy.

He made 1st round picks bring him cups of water. The point was to show that he's the boss and that he does not tolerate Prima Donnas.

I recommend anybody that has not, to study some of the famous hard-arses in history and their antics in dealing with people. George Patton and ex-CEO of GE, Jack Welch are 2 that I find fascinating.

Parcells, Jimmy and Belichick have all followed many old school tactics.

Nobody knows why Broaddus was fired but him and the ones who fired him. And Parcells took the Cowboys job because he needed money. He set this team back years by tearing up a very good fast defense who played like they do now. Just a team who does its job. They were the #1 def the yr before he nixed the team bringing in Berry and Winfield. If he wouldve just kept true to his word when he was hired and focused on off things wouldnt have been so bad.

Parcells was hard headed more then what u called him. He was a bully who the game had passed him by.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Parcells made a lot of mistakes

You don't get to where he has without making them. Bellicheat has made a lot of mistakes too.

 

[Verdict]

You don't get to where he has without making them. Bellicheat has made a lot of mistakes too.

Yes. He will lay an egg occasionally. He has also botched time management at times too.

 

[T-RO]

I'd like to hear Bills point of view but it's clear in hindsight that the game had passed Bill by

Not all. Awesome coach who had success everywhere he coached. He probably has more lifelong friendships with players around the league than any coach has ever had.

Brilliant...masterful communicator.

 

[xwalker]

Nobody knows why Broaddus was fired but him and the ones who fired him. And Parcells took the Cowboys job because he needed money. He set this team back years by tearing up a very good fast defense who played like they do now. Just a team who does its job. They were the #1 def the yr before he nixed the team bringing in Berry and Winfield. If he wouldve just kept true to his word when he was hired and focused on off things wouldnt have been so bad.

Parcells was hard headed more then what u called him. He was a bully who the game had passed him by.

5-11
5-11
5-11 Campo's final season.
Playoffs (Parcells 1st season)

He made many mistakes, but they needed him to shake things up at that time.

He fired Lacewell which was one of the best
decisions in the history of the Cowboys. Lacewell would have stayed forever and nothing would have changed. Maybe you liked the Shante Carver, Dwayne Goodrich, etc. days. Lacewell would have kept the team stocked with those types of players.

Stephen says he learned more from Parcells than anybody else about running an NFL team.

 

[cej757]

He destroyed one of the best defenses in the nfl when he got to dallas and made it big and slow.

Dallas had bertrand berry and Antoine winfield ready to come in for visits. But Parcells cancelled and signed Wiley, Chad Eaton and Pepe Sparks.

Wow I remember that.

 

[cej757]

Yet Parcell's excellent talent evaluation brought in the likes of Bobby Carpenter.

That was because Parcells coached his Dad and was doing the family a favor.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yet Parcell's excellent talent evaluation brought in the likes of Bobby Carpenter.

The guy shouldn't be slammed for that pick. We can also bring up the great draft he had in 2003.

Yes. He will lay an egg occasionally. He has also botched time management at times too.

All these coaches do though. Their arrogance is their worst enemy.

 

[TheCount]

Parcells wanted something Jerry never did -- a sure thing. He knew what he was going to get from Spears, but Ware could be have been the player he turned out to be or a complete bust. We have gotten a lot of pro bowlers by going for high risk/reward players but we've also had a lot of duds, and it is the amount of duds rather than pro bowlers that make or break a team.

We are still learning that lesson. The Patriots only sent 4 guys to the pro bowl last year.

Spears was a sure thing? In what way... because he had 10 career sacks and was JAG his entire career.

 

[plymkr]

Stephen Peterman ended up starting for the Lions for a handful of years. Always thought we gave up on him fast after that bad leg injury(MCL/ACL) he suffered in preseason(IIRC). Was in the league till 2012/13.
That draft also had Crayton, Reeves(who also played till 2012!), and Nate Jones(2011)

Was a bad draft in terms of quality players, but we hit on some depth guys later on.

That's what it was. He got hurt. Ok, yeah that makes sense. Thanks, I just remembered he never played for us but couldn't remember why. And yeah I agree, Crayton and the DBs did give us some depth. I don't think I'll ever forgive Crayton for dropping that TD pass against the Giants in the 2007 playoffs.

 

[Philmonroe]

Eh, for every Woodson there's a headcase like Pacman Jones you don't want to deal with. Maybe Bill dealt with similar players recently as was burned.

Same way you can understand the Cowboys not drafting Noah Spense after being burned by Gregory. I'm sure a scout or two wanted him on the team due to the talent, but more people were against it. In hindsight Spense could turn out to be an All Pro, but you can understand why we passed.

I feel that's loser talk at the end of the day in the second paragraph. If you messed up before doesn't mean you will necessarily mess up the next time. You just have to trust the system you have in place and run with it. If it needs tweaking or a complete overhaul do that but once you settle on one you think works let the chips fall where they may.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

I feel that's loser talk at the end of the day in the second paragraph. If you messed up before doesn't mean you will necessarily mess up the next time. You just have to trust the system you have in place and run with it. If it needs tweaking or a complete overhaul do that but once you settle on one you think works let the chips fall where they may.

I want to agree but did you see Gregory's interviews at the draft? I believed (and I think he believed) him when he said he won't ever be an issue. He barely lasted a season before issues cropped up.

There are guys in this draft who have issues and are no where near as convincing that they know how to turn it around (Tim Williams, Taber, etc).

Spence seemed as sorry as Gregory, but I can understand why they were reluctant a year after Gregory

 

[pansophy]

Spears was a sure thing? In what way... because he had 10 career sacks and was JAG his entire career.

In a 3-4 he wasn't supposed to get sacks. A sure thing doesn't mean you get a great player, it means you get what you expect from him. He produced what Parcells expected.

You can disagree, but we did get to the playoffs with Parcels after a really long drought.

 

[silver]

Woodson was drafted by the Raiders in 1998.

Woodson was slapped with the franchise tag in 2004 by the Raiders.

Woodson was again slapped with the franchise tag in 2005 by the Raiders.

Woodson was given a huge free agent deal by the Packers in 2006.

Broaddus was with the Cowboys from 1999-2004 as far as I can tell.

When exactly was Broaddus pushing Parcells to get Woodson?

It wasn't 1998 as neither Broaddus or Parcells were in Dallas.

In 2004? That would have cost Dallas a lot to get him and Dallas was rebuilding at the time. Trading multiple picks for Woodson probably wouldn't have been a great idea.

I was scratching my head as well. I doubt we ever had a shot at Charles Woodson.