Broaddus tweet re Leary

[jterrell]

Hopefully Leary can go.
Not ideal week for shuffling on the OL.

If not Bern is a nice 3rd OG and should be able to get the job done with some help.

 

[Deep_South]

We've been down this road before, but just out of curiosity, would everyone who wanted a TE in the 2nd instead of OL/DL or any position other than TE please raise your hand? I'm just wondering if there was any support in advance for the Escobar pick. I don't remember any, but I miss quite a few posts..

 

[Idgit]

I am sure that Bernadeau starting on the line didn't concern you . You was happy with the starting line from last year. I disagree that a backup TE is more important than a starting guard . I am sure Romo disagrees with you as well.

idgit is one of the primary pollyanna's as regards the O line. He truly would have been fine with Costa, Bernie and company from last year for this year.

After all the back and forth re: OG the last two seasons, you guys sure managed to misunderstand most of my arguments. I'd have argued with me, too, if I was actually saying what you guys seem to have thought I was saying.

So...this whole thread is about Leary getting a day to rest his knee? Or is there actual speculation that he's going to miss any time? I'm still unclear, and it's hard to tell what's really going on given how this team handles the reporting of injuries.

 

[burmafrd]

After all the back and forth re: OG the last two seasons, you guys sure managed to misunderstand most of my arguments. I'd have argued with me, too, if I was actually saying what you guys seem to have thought I was saying.

So...this whole thread is about Leary getting a day to rest his knee? Or is there actual speculation that he's going to miss any time? I'm still unclear, and it's hard to tell what's really going on given how this team handles the reporting of injuries.

oh come on. Your whole tone was just like Kevin Bacon in Animal House "ALL IS WELL!!!"

 

[Doomsday101]

oh come on. Your whole tone was just like Kevin Bacon in Animal House "ALL IS WELL!!!"

We really do not know one way or the other. We get a lot of speculation from the cliff jumpers to the Kevin Bacons but no real word on if Leary is a go or not and if this is just giving a guy a day off due to soreness or not

 

[xwalker]

The OLineman that I wanted them to draft late or sign as a UDFA was Alvin Bailey. I liked him better than Warford. I still can't figure out why he didn't get drafted. He has been the active backup Guard for the Seahawks. He was reported to play well in the preseason/training-camp. I had both Bailey and Warford in the top 5 Guards for power; however, Bailey was much quicker and more athletic than Warford.

 

[jterrell]

We've been down this road before, but just out of curiosity, would everyone who wanted a TE in the 2nd instead of OL/DL or any position other than TE please raise your hand? I'm just wondering if there was any support in advance for the Escobar pick. I don't remember any, but I miss quite a few posts..

At the time we were on the clock I can say with a high degree of certainty ALL our fans would have taken OL/DL over TE. ALL. Even guys who played TE.

All that said fans really should be less short-sighted.
Escobar has unique physical traits. He is not some dime a dozen guy.
Yes, he is raw and and had a lot of physical development to do.
But giving up on him in 7 games is absurd.
And TE is becoming a more important position in this league with each passing year. Especially the hybrid guy like Escobar that has possession WR skills.

The draft class has been an A+ thus far.
I am more than willing to give them a pass on Warford who was a bit of a risk coming out of Kentucky.
He played with sloppy technique and had a sloppy fat build.
I give him credit for working his tail off to change both things and Detroit for forcing him to do so before naming him a starter only at the end of TC.

Had we drafted Warford we save ourselves form adding Waters but I am not sure that is a good thing.
Waters provides know how and leadership that doesnt show up on any PFF grading scale.
The entire OL has been supremely improved since he was inserted; especially Frederick.
And while there is a very real appeal to Warford and Fred growing together I also like the impact Waters can have on our OL of the future with his presence and information.

 

[Zordon]

We've been down this road before, but just out of curiosity, would everyone who wanted a TE in the 2nd instead of OL/DL or any position other than TE please raise your hand? I'm just wondering if there was any support in advance for the Escobar pick. I don't remember any, but I miss quite a few posts..

there was none which makes the defense of the pick by many so perplexing.

 

[Doomsday101]

At the time we were on the clock I can say with a high degree of certainty ALL our fans would have taken OL/DL over TE. ALL. Even guys who played TE.

All that said fans really should be less short-sighted.
Escobar has unique physical traits. He is not some dime a dozen guy.
Yes, he is raw and and had a lot of physical development to do.
But giving up on him in 7 games is absurd.
And TE is becoming a more important position in this league with each passing year. Especially the hybrid guy like Escobar that has possession WR skills.

The draft class has been an A+ thus far.
I am more than willing to give them a pass on Warford who was a bit of a risk coming out of Kentucky.
He played with sloppy technique and had a sloppy fat build.
I give him credit for working his tail off to change both things and Detroit for forcing him to do so before naming him a starter only at the end of TC.

Had we drafted Warford we save ourselves form adding Waters but I am not sure that is a good thing.
Waters provides know how and leadership that doesnt show up on any PFF grading scale.
The entire OL has been supremely improved since he was inserted; especially Frederick.
And while there is a very real appeal to Warford and Fred growing together I also like the impact Waters can have on our OL of the future with his presence and information.

I agree. TE was not even something I thought of on draft day but I also know the draft is not just about 1 season it is a main key of building for the future. Escobar has some things he needs to get better at and needs to add some size and strength to his 6'6" frame but he also has very good talent and that is the one thing every draft guru talked about when he was selected.

 

[visionary]

At the time we were on the clock I can say with a high degree of certainty ALL our fans would have taken OL/DL over TE. ALL. Even guys who played TE.

All that said fans really should be less short-sighted.
Escobar has unique physical traits. He is not some dime a dozen guy.
Yes, he is raw and and had a lot of physical development to do.
But giving up on him in 7 games is absurd.
And TE is becoming a more important position in this league with each passing year. Especially the hybrid guy like Escobar that has possession WR skills.

The draft class has been an A+ thus far.
I am more than willing to give them a pass on Warford who was a bit of a risk coming out of Kentucky.
He played with sloppy technique and had a sloppy fat build.
I give him credit for working his tail off to change both things and Detroit for forcing him to do so before naming him a starter only at the end of TC.

Had we drafted Warford we save ourselves form adding Waters but I am not sure that is a good thing.
Waters provides know how and leadership that doesnt show up on any PFF grading scale.
The entire OL has been supremely improved since he was inserted; especially Frederick.
And while there is a very real appeal to Warford and Fred growing together I also like the impact Waters can have on our OL of the future with his presence and information.

you make some good points

 

[LatinMind]

Wrong. You might not like his analysis, but that's not what this is. Broaddus has connections in Valley Ranch.

i would hope so. He works inside valley ranch.

 

[jterrell]

Bailey's issue

The OLineman that I wanted them to draft late or sign as a UDFA was Alvin Bailey. I liked him better than Warford. I still can't figure out why he didn't get drafted. He has been the active backup Guard for the Seahawks. He was reported to play well in the preseason/training-camp. I had both Bailey and Warford in the top 5 Guards for power; however, Bailey was much quicker and more athletic than Warford.

Bailey's issue was coming back for his senior year and playing part of that putrid give up the Hogs through out there.
At least that's all I can figure.
I haven't heard any crazy off-field rumors.

 

[Idgit]

oh come on. Your whole tone was just like Kevin Bacon in Animal House "ALL IS WELL!!!"

Trying not to derail the thread too badly, but that's not true. My perspective was always that the OL needed to improve, but that the team had a plan for improvement and we should just sit tight and not freak out about it not happening faster. That said, I wanted to sign a VFA OG (I thought it would be Moore, but was on board with Waters, too). I also thought we should address RT with Clabo, though that turned out to be wrong. I was even in favor of a first round OG (wanted Cooper, but would have been ok with Warmack), though I thought that would have been us spending a premium pick at a position of lesser need because of poor drafting/development previously.

The point I consistently made was that we had the staff and the personnel on the roster to develop starting players at a position where that's possible, and we had bigger and more important holes in the secondary and DL that needed to be addressed. That VFAs are routinely available to help out at positions like OG, they're not very expensive, and you can get hold-the-fort guys while they develop. That C and OT were the positions on the OL where you have to spend premium picks.

That turned out to be exactly what the team did (though, in fairness, the Frederick pick was probably because the OGs in front of him were gone). Somehow you forget we've played the first half of this season with Bernardeau starting and the OL held up just fine during that time, too. And, back to the thread topic, he'll fill in OK again at LG this week, if he has to, though it makes us weaker at that swing position assuming Arkin is the next guy who steps up there.

Ordinarily, I'd say it's not anything to get worked up about at all, but just last week we had Miles sit a day for 'precautionary reasons' only to see him limited in the game. Resting a young player like this might be part of a plan, but it's probably an indication of his knee acting up, if I had to guess.

 

[CowboyStar88]

We don't even know which knee is sore? He had soreness in his mom chronic knee in the preseason

 

[Idgit]

We don't even know which knee is sore? He had soreness in his mom chronic knee in the preseason

You know it's bad when your knee hurts so much, your mother feels it.

 

[Denim Chicken]

um, Leary's back at practice today. End thread?

 

[CowboyStar88]

We don't even know which knee is sore? He had soreness in his mom chronic knee in the preseason

I meant non stupid auto correct

 

[CowboyStar88]

You know it's bad when your knee hurts so much, your mother feels it.

I meant non

 

[Idgit]

um, Leary's back at practice today. End thread?

This thread can't end until Escobar's in the probowl or Warford is out of the league. I insist.

 

[Idgit]

I meant non

Pretty sure you meant 'mom,' and now you're just covering.