Broaddus's take on issues with Dez

[birdwells1]

True, but for several reasons. Dak is a 2nd year QB that just lost his most reliable offensive friend. Dez has been running bad routes for 10 years and declining in production and abilities for 3 years.

You want to blame Dak and say he isnt a good QB, be my guest. Romo was special at throwing the football. I would give Romo a 9 out of 10 in throwing the football. I would give him a 2 in using his legs and running. I would give him a 6 in leadership and intangibles.

Dak I would say is a 7 in throwing the football. I would give him a 9 in using his legs and running. I would give him an 8 in leadership and intangibles. So yah, Romo thew the ball better, but Dak will be the better QB overall. Now if you want to give me a bad team with no run game, then give me Romo all day long. But if you have a good team and you want to win championships then Ill take Dak.

So what would Brady, Big Ben, Brees be rating in using his legs? Probably not to high, There's a reason Dez wanted Romo back when he was healthy last year. Legs and leadership haven't won many super bowls for a qb as much as his arm. At this point in Dak's career he's nowhere close to the qb that Romo was, he doesn't see the field like a veteran passer can and that affects all his receivers.

 

[birdwells1]

What stinks for me is this. The guys who love Romo so much, hate Dak. They don't care about his development, they don't care if he's in his second year, they only care that Romo is gone. I say to those fans, go root for CBS and get out. Give the guy 3 full years, if he fails, we draft a QB. Simple as that.
His best year he had 4900 yards, 28 TDs and 19 INTs and worst of all, he went 8-8. That's not elite. Dez has been in the league forever now. His best years were 2012-2013-2014. That was year 9 for Romo when he had those 3 years with Dez. But Romo fans are too dense to realize that. They are comparing a 9 year vet at the time to a two year guy.

The bottom line for me is, Dez has never been elite. He had 3 good years, and 1 good year in college. THAT'S IT.

So now, I believe that injuries have slowed Dez down which is a problem because he's never been a good route runner. He's a dominant jump ball receiver, and now he's not even that. T-Will is an inconsistent catcher. He's a decent route runner, but he can't catch the ball consistently. Cole Beasley can catch, but his route tree is horrible, and can't really get down field. He's just not fast (also he's weak, he gets pushed around). Witten is just slow. He's a great route runner, amazing catcher, but he's too slow to make an impact.

So what do we have here? We have 4 receivers who have major problems. So for me, you need an overhaul of a receiving core.

Is it 4 wrs with problems or 1 inexperienced qb? which is more likely?

 

[JoeKing]

So what would Brady, Big Ben, Brees be rating in using his legs? Probably not to high, There's a reason Dez wanted Romo back when he was healthy last year. Legs and leadership haven't won many super bowls for a qb as much as his arm. At this point in Dak's career he's nowhere close to the qb that Romo was, he doesn't see the field like a veteran passer can and that affects all his receivers.

Romo wasn't even a starter yet at this point in Dak's career. If you want to compare Dak to Romo then compare them at the same time in their careers otherwise it's a bogus comparison and completely unfair to Dak.

 

[LittleD]

so you have been on the tour ?

Yes, I worked for a Company who had their Annual Christmas dinner there several years ago and we
all got to first take a tour of the house and grounds.

 

[JoeKing]

Is it 4 wrs with problems or 1 inexperienced qb? which is more likely?

Or is it 1 WR's coach that let's those 4 WRs run poor routes which is just as likely as the 1 QB?

 

[Rockport]

Is it 4 wrs with problems or 1 inexperienced qb? which is more likely?

Very very naive statement. There’s normally only 3 WR’s on the field. The #1 WR is checked 1st. Dez. Dez, with 1 on 1 coverage can’t get open anymore. That and he takes plays off, or alligators catches or drops the ball. Williams isn’t good enough to beat single coverage either. Beasley is now consistently double teamed. With Zeke back in the fold, Beasley will be open more. There’s a lot more to what’s going on than just 1 player.

 

[Verdict]

I wish the Dez appologists could comprehend what they are really arguing. Its something like this:

1. Its ok that Dez cant get separation. Separation isn't his game.
2. Dez needs a perfect ball thrown to him. Its Dak's fault every throw isn't a perfect ball to Dez.
3. Its ok if Dez drops the ball. His drops don't count. What do you expect from Dez?
4. The solution to Dez getting stats commensurate with his salary is to force the ball to him on every throw.
5. Dez is doing it all by himself. It's so unfair to Dez.
6. Dez' meltdowns don't matter. He's just passionate. Its part of his "beast-ing".
7. Dez' exorbitant cap number is irrelevant. We have room for it, so pissing off cap space is a great idea.
8. It doesn't matter if Dez sucks, or even becomes a paraplegic. Dez is the heart and soul of this team
9. One great catch by Dez (even if it is only for 10 yards) erases a full year's worth of Dez' mistakes.

 

[jobberone]

So I can count on their vote in 4 years when Romo ISN'T selected for the Pro Football Hall of Fame?

No one but you has mentioned the HOF so your snicker is unwarranted and unwelcome.

 

[Rockport]

SHOW ME. Every single week we get clips from the beat writers on twitter showing Dez being doubled covered with Beasley running the only route in his route tree in single coverage. You say otherwise, cool, show me.

He’s right. You have it backwards. Dak has no confidence in Dez because of it.

 

[JoeKing]

No one but you has mentioned the HOF so your snicker is unwarranted and unwelcome.

Where do elite QB's end up? If you are so adamant about the man being elite then why wouldn't HOF be a logical conclusion. If you are conceding he's not a HOF'er then your claim he is elite would seem delusive.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I can most likely find WRs who can work with Dak's style. Dak needs speedy WRs and good route runners. I can find very, very few QBs who can succeed with what Dez needs. Dez needs QBs who will unleash the ball to Dez even though he is covered like a blanket, place the ball a little higher than the DBs head, and hope Dez will go up and get it. Asking a lot from a QB to gain that much trust with Dez. Romo had a younger Dez and Dez at his peak. Dez is on the downside and he just isn't getting separation. Dak doesn't have time to wait for Dez to get open enough for Dak to have confidence in getting the ball to him.

So, in my opinion, Dez is the problem. If it comes down to a Dak or Dez situation, Dez is history. Plenty of Dezs out there. Very, very few Daks.

Very few 4th round qbs with accuracy, footwork and sight issues?

Also Dez isn't always blanketed. He draws double coverage and even when he's often open Dak misses him.

For instance it's Dez's fault Dak can't throw a functional fade?

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Dez is so good he constantly gets single coverage this year.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[wssaustin]

Starting experience is the most valuable opportunity and experience, age is not. We are more talking about Dak's football fundamentals, i.e. throwing mechanics, read, accuracy, etc. More like floor vs ceiling. Dak got a high floor but obviously low ceiling than Romo.

Romo wasn't even a starter yet at this point in Dak's career. If you want to compare Dak to Romo then compare them at the same time in their careers otherwise it's a bogus comparison and completely unfair to Dak.

 

[Sepia]

Or is it 1 WR's coach that let's those 4 WRs run poor routes which is just as likely as the 1 QB?

I posted this elsewhere, but Broaddus watched the tape on our last game and said our receivers didn't win their battles even though the Raiders secondary sucks and Dez was doubled the whole game. I think the receivers coach should be reviewed because that's ridiculous.

 

[jobberone]

Where do elite QB's end up? If you are so adamant about the man being elite then why wouldn't HOF be a logical conclusion. If you are conceding he's not a HOF'er then your claim he is elite would seem delusive.

That's your definition of elite not mine.

 

[birdwells1]

I wish the Dez appologists could comprehend what they are really arguing. Its something like this:

1. Its ok that Dez cant get separation. Separation isn't his game.
2. Dez needs a perfect ball thrown to him. Its Dak's fault every throw isn't a perfect ball to Dez.
3. Its ok if Dez drops the ball. His drops don't count. What do you expect from Dez?
4. The solution to Dez getting stats commensurate with his salary is to force the ball to him on every throw.
5. Dez is doing it all by himself. It's so unfair to Dez.
6. Dez' meltdowns don't matter. He's just passionate. Its part of his "beast-ing".
7. Dez' exorbitant cap number is irrelevant. We have room for it, so pissing off cap space is a great idea.
8. It doesn't matter if Dez sucks, or even becomes a paraplegic. Dez is the heart and soul of this team
9. One great catch by Dez (even if it is only for 10 yards) erases a full year's worth of Dez' mistakes.

The Reasons why Dez production has fallen:
1. Inexperienced quarterbacking
2. see above
3. see above
4. see his stats with Romo. Pro Bowl and All Pro.
5. see all other pass catcher's stats this year, they have fallen
6. defensive coordinator's respect him, that's why he was doubled 95% of the time last week. I'll take their opinion over yours.

 

[The Natural]

Do you have the coaches film?

Im waiting

 

[The Natural]

You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

But let CZ posters tell the story.

 

[xwalker]

Im waiting

I'm waiting for an answer.

 

[The Natural]

I'm waiting for an answer.

post the clips or shut up.