Broaddus's take on issues with Dez

[GimmeTheBall!]

Dez just isn't the same without an elite QB. He runs limited routes and has a very specific skill set. Unless he is used in just the right way, he becomes much more of a JAG. Until Dak develops and learns how to use him, this is what he is IMO. There could be some truth to the injury concerns, but we won't know that tell end of season, if at all. I believe another part of this is Dak's unwillingness to make some of the throws that Dez is elite at. These throws have much more risk, which goes against the very trait that made Dak so good last year, risk aversion.

Das right!
Blame Dez's decline on the lack of an elite QB.
Blame Dez's sorry hands and routes on an injury.
Well played ....

 

[JoeKing]

He's not embarrassing himself but you are. He is entitled to his opinion just as you and everyone else here. It's not your place to tell him what to say. You're welcome to disagree with anyone as long as it is done civilly.

/Mod hat off

Just because the man says something doesn't make it so. It doesn't matter if he says it until the cows come home, facts are still facts, Romo was not an elite QB. That may give Romo worshipers heartburn but they can take a Rolaids and get over it.

 

[JoeKing]

Okay, Quincy Carter was elite and should be in the HOF. Feel better?

Love the sarcasm.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Ignoring the past facts is a dumb as saying history doesn't matter. Dez can still win the jump ball and be unstoppable on the back shoulder throws. The bottom line is both Dez and Dak need to improve on working together.

Im not ignoring anything. Just stating the facts. You saying that Dak isnt Romo is as pointless as saying Dak isnt Staubach. And as far as Dez goes, this is his 3rd bad year in a row. So was he better under Romo in his prime then he is under Dak? Sure, but Dez isnt the same receiver as he was in his prime either.

I think comparing any 2nd year QB to Romo or any QB in his prime is a stretch. The only reason we can do it because Dak had such an incredible year as a rookie. Dak is ahead of his time, but his is still just a 2nd year QB.

 

[Blackspider214]

Believe what you wish, but he Romo Dez connection WAS elite.

Romo was in the NFL how long by the time he developed a connection with Dez? Dak has not even been in the league 2 years. Romo already admitted it tooks TONS of work to develop that connection with Dez. You know why? Because his skillset is limited. He is only effective when a QB goes against his natrual inclination and has to just chunk the ball up.

That's an indictment on Dez.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Das right!
Blame Dez's decline on the lack of an elite QB.
Blame Dez's sorry hands and routes on an injury.
Well played ....

I never said Dez ran great routes or hasn't had his share of drops. He needs to improve in those areas. The blame isn't solely on one party. They both need to play better and more in sync. I don't care if he is injured or not. That doesn't have much impact on my take at all.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Romo was in the NFL how long by the time he developed a connection with Dez? Dak has not even been in the league 2 years. Romo already admitted it tooks TONS of work to develop that connection with Dez. You know why? Because his skillset is limited. He is only effective when a QB goes against his natrual inclination and has to just chunk the ball up.

That's an indictment on Dez.

I agree a 100% with this. You pretty much stated my argument.

 

[IheartRomo]

He needs an accurate QB.


How people fail to see this, amazes me



This should be an easy pitch and catch

Matt Ryan had about 4 of those the other night against Tampa. I'm not saying Dak is Rodgers, but showing one play hardly proves any kind of point.

 

[Blackspider214]

I agree a 100% with this. You pretty much stated my argument.

I think it's best for Dak and this offense if we somehow could rid ourselves of Dez. He just does not bring anything effective to this offense for what we are paying. I'd rather get a few younger guys who are cheaper who has a better utilization of the route tree. That he can build chemistry with. It isn't just Dez. Twill is a liability and can't be counted on either. Butler either.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Matt Ryan had about 4 of those the other night against Tampa. I'm not saying Dak is Rodgers, but showing one play hardly proves any kind of point.

There are plenty of these type of plays from Dak

 

[4lifecowboy]

Perfect pass by Dak. Dez pulled up because he was scared. End of story.

Perfect camera angle on the pick to see clearly that Dez pulls up and laughable reaches out for the ball and lands cringing that he was going to get popped. If Dez continues on his route he probably catches the ball above his head in stride and hits a big play.

Any other analysis of this play is biased stupidity.

Really? That was a horrible pass that would has set up his top receiver to get flattened by the waiting LB. That is on the QB.

 

[TwentyOne]

Dak could be better.

So can he...

Just because Dak missed him on one play doesn’t give him an excuse to drop a ball the next. There is no sense finger pointing here.

I have defended Dez a lot and will continue to do so but he is not completely innocent, he has missed on some opportunities as much as Dak has missed on some throws.

You are right. Finger pointing doesnt solve any problems.

Dez is not a very good wr. And dak is not a very good qb. One alone is ok but the combination is not good.

The problem i have with dez is his contract. He earns top money and that money is bound so we cant afford to get a #1 wr thru fa.

Second Problem is if he takes a significant paycut so we can afford a wr what do you do with dez. He is no real #2 and he drops way too many balls to be a possesion receiver.

One solution to me is live with him another season. Draft a wr very high and cut dez after 2018. So the new draft Pick has 1 year to get accustomed to the nfl.

If you cant find a wr in the draft sign a fa in the 2018 offseason.

We can also let dez take a significant paycut sign a fa in the 2017 offseason.

In all my scenario we have to cut dez after 2018.

 

[4lifecowboy]

I think it's best for Dak and this offense if we somehow could rid ourselves of Dez. He just does not bring anything effective to this offense for what we are paying. I'd rather get a few younger guys who are cheaper who has a better utilization of the route tree. That he can build chemistry with. It isn't just Dez. Twill is a liability and can't be counted on either. Butler either.

Draft another QB to compete with Dak is the best solution. Why rebuild your whole receiving corp and then end up with the same issues.

 

[4lifecowboy]

Look i love some of Dak's intangibles but he is inaccurate, and late on other throws way too often to be a reliable franchise QB.

 

[Blackspider214]

Draft another QB to compete with Dak is the best solution. Why rebuild your whole receiving corp and then end up with the same issues.

Why? Because the ones we have are not the answer. That's been evident this entire decade. Romo didn't win with them. Neither will Dak. How can you not see that? There is zero speed. They get no separation. They don't impact the game.

I guess after keep replacing the QB, you will come to find out it wasn't them but the WRs.

 

[TwentyOne]

Look i love some of Dak's intangibles but he is inaccurate, and late on other throws way too often to be a reliable franchise QB.

You are right. I like him alot and i wish him to be our nr 1 qb. But we have to bring in real competition.

This franchise too often has put qb in second place. The only one who has handled the qb ppsition with necessary sobriety was bill parcells. After and before him we handled it like JJ always did and does. With alot of risk and betting on pure luck.

 

[4lifecowboy]

When Romo was at the helm he was putting up record passing yards, we didn't win because he never had an elite RB and defense. We missed our best chance because of a Murray fumble and a no catch call on an elite catch by Bryant. But don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[Clove]

Draft another QB to compete with Dak is the best solution. Why rebuild your whole receiving corp and then end up with the same issues.

And what if this new QB struggles in year two, then what? So when Romo went 8-8, I didn't hear most of you wanting to draft a new QB, outside of me.

 

[TwentyOne]

When Romo was at the helm he was putting up record passing yards, we didn't win because he never had an elite RB and defense. We missed our best chance because of a Murray fumble and a no catch call on an elite catch by Bryant. But don't let the facts get in your way.

We didnt win because romo was never a qb like rodgers Favre or montana who has the ability to shoulder a team without help. Romo needed always talent around him to prosper. If he was missing it he was the type of player who tried too much and made alot if mistakes because he hadnt had the talent.

 

[Clove]

When Romo was at the helm he was putting up record passing yards, we didn't win because he never had an elite RB and defense. We missed our best chance because of a Murray fumble and a no catch call on an elite catch by Bryant. But don't let the facts get in your way.

Why couldn't he put up record numbers in the playoffs then?